argument with my dad about squats led to an interesting phone call

[SouthernLord]

Military press 315? A military press is a standing overhead press with the heals together. Is this what you mean by militay press? I'm not trying to nitpick or be an ass, but people calling anything but a Military press a military press is one of my biggest pet peeves lol. A 315 press in any manner is impressive

so?? I should write a letter to the sports med doc that both wrote the book and certified me regarding the information pertaining to muscle contraction and effects of supporting heavy weight with the skeletal and supportive systems rather than the muscles that are being used to move the weight??

See?? the same thing goes for benching.. whenever during a movement the plane of motion should never allow the muscle to release the contraction allowing for blood to flood the muscle, at the point where the muscle releases the contraction, thus releasing stress to the muscle the weight is still being moved and or supported.. if not by the muscle, then by the skeletal system..

but that's just his opinion, you've stated yours... I've trained both ways... currently using the afore mentioned information as a guide and am very happy with the results.. both in strength, growth, and recovery..

I'm sure your highschool, or college coach will be happy that you squat in that manner, perhaps when you are 48 yr old you'll still be able to do military press for reps at 315 lbs.. that's where i'm at right now.. but i don't do a lot of squats.. I prefer hip sled as it protects my back better..

see, a simple exchange of ideas.. wait, i supported my statements, you simply said they were wrong and stated the opposite..

 

[joe d]

OMG, you are one of the thousands of personal trainers that go around teaching clients bad form, spreading misinformation about what really is proper form.

I feel sorry for anyone that pays for that kind of service.

ef would be an even better place wethout these kind of disrespectful posts. your opinion could have been stated in a much better way.

 

[bblazer]

so?? I should write a letter to the sports med doc that both wrote the book and certified me regarding the information pertaining to muscle contraction and effects of supporting heavy weight with the skeletal and supportive systems rather than the muscles that are being used to move the weight??

See?? the same thing goes for benching.. whenever during a movement the plane of motion should never allow the muscle to release the contraction allowing for blood to flood the muscle, at the point where the muscle releases the contraction, thus releasing stress to the muscle the weight is still being moved and or supported.. if not by the muscle, then by the skeletal system..

but that's just his opinion, you've stated yours... I've trained both ways... currently using the afore mentioned information as a guide and am very happy with the results.. both in strength, growth, and recovery..

I'm sure your highschool, or college coach will be happy that you squat in that manner, perhaps when you are 48 yr old you'll still be able to do military press for reps at 315 lbs.. that's where i'm at right now.. but i don't do a lot of squats.. I prefer hip sled as it protects my back better..

see, a simple exchange of ideas.. wait, i supported my statements, you simply said they were wrong and stated the opposite..

Wow.

You obviously know nothing about me.

Lets start with the facts.

1) I am WAY older than 48
2) I have been powerlifting since I was 20
3) I have 2 masters degrees. One in Nutritional Biochemistry with an emphasis in the transfer of nutrients between the blood/brain barrier, and one in Exercise Physiology.
4) Until 2 years ago I held M2 records in the squat and deadlift
5) I have consulted for 2 NFL strength programs specifically for lineman
6) I have never had any injury due to my workouts or competition
7) I have trained with Rippetoe, Simmons, Bergman, and had the opportunity to get a day with Ed Coan.

All that is just off the top of my head....

You read a book and took a class. Yeee haw.

Don't get into a dick measuring contest with me. I do not know everything, but you have a long way to go to be able to sit at my table and get sarcastic, condescending and patronizing, with me.

I would be happy to discuss why a deep squat is perfectly OK, but I suggest you buy Starting Strength by Rippetoe and read that first. Until then, please let me quote him.

"Anyone who says that full squats are "bad for the knees" has, with that statement, demonstrated conclusively that they are not entitled to an opinion about the matter. People who know nothing about a topic, especially a very technical one that requires specific training, knowledge, and experience, are not due an opinion about that topic and are better served by being quiet when it is asked about or discussed. For example, when brain surgery, or string theory, or the NFL draft, or women's dress sizes, or white wine is being discussed, I remain quiet, odd though that may seem. But seldom is this the case when orthopedic surgeons, athletic trainers, physical therapists, or nurses are asked about full squats. "

In the meantime, I would be happy to pass along to all the people I mentioned above how you believe they are wrong, and you one doc and one book are right.

B-

 

[djeclipse]

ef would be an even better place wethout these kind of disrespectful posts. your opinion could have been stated in a much better way.

Have you seen any of my other posts here? that was cleaned up.

 

[djeclipse]

but i don't do a lot of squats.. I prefer hip sled as it protects my back better..

I find it extremely ironic that you are telling us you know how to squat, your way is "prooven" to be right, and in the same post you tell us that you don't do squats to "protect your back"....

If you were squatting with proper form, your back won't need "protecting".

That alone tells us that you have no clue what a proper squat looks like.

see, a simple exchange of ideas.. wait, i supported my statements, you simply said they were wrong and stated the opposite..

What I see is that you attempted to throw a bunch of bull shit words around, mentioning "medical doctors" to make it seem like you know what you are talking about. When in reality the final statement tells us the true story, you don't know what a proper squat is.

 

[SouthernLord]

Wow.

You obviously know nothing about me.

Lets start with the facts.

1) I am WAY older than 48
2) I have been powerlifting since I was 20
3) I have 2 masters degrees. One in Nutritional Biochemistry with an emphasis in the transfer of nutrients between the blood/brain barrier, and one in Exercise Physiology.
4) Until 2 years ago I held M2 records in the squat and deadlift
5) I have consulted for 2 NFL strength programs specifically for lineman
6) I have never had any injury due to my workouts or competition
7) I have trained with Rippetoe, Simmons, Bergman, and had the opportunity to get a day with Ed Coan.

All that is just off the top of my head....

You read a book and took a class. Yeee haw.

Don't get into a dick measuring contest with me. I do not know everything, but you have a long way to go to be able to sit at my table and get sarcastic, condescending and patronizing, with me.

I would be happy to discuss why a deep squat is perfectly OK, but I suggest you buy Starting Strength by Rippetoe and read that first. Until then, please let me quote him.

"Anyone who says that full squats are "bad for the knees" has, with that statement, demonstrated conclusively that they are not entitled to an opinion about the matter. People who know nothing about a topic, especially a very technical one that requires specific training, knowledge, and experience, are not due an opinion about that topic and are better served by being quiet when it is asked about or discussed. For example, when brain surgery, or string theory, or the NFL draft, or women's dress sizes, or white wine is being discussed, I remain quiet, odd though that may seem. But seldom is this the case when orthopedic surgeons, athletic trainers, physical therapists, or nurses are asked about full squats. "

In the meantime, I would be happy to pass along to all the people I mentioned above how you believe they are wrong, and you one doc and one book are right.

B-

Will you go out with me?

 

[djeclipse]

Will you go out with me?

lol, ya,

That is an impressive list of credentials bblazer, any one of them on their own would be impressive (well except for #1, lol), but combined they are truly amazing.

 

[joe d]

Have you seen any of my other posts here? that was cleaned up.

 

[joe d]

Wow.

You obviously know nothing about me.

Lets start with the facts.

1) I am WAY older than 48
2) I have been powerlifting since I was 20
3) I have 2 masters degrees. One in Nutritional Biochemistry with an emphasis in the transfer of nutrients between the blood/brain barrier, and one in Exercise Physiology.
4) Until 2 years ago I held M2 records in the squat and deadlift
5) I have consulted for 2 NFL strength programs specifically for lineman
6) I have never had any injury due to my workouts or competition
7) I have trained with Rippetoe, Simmons, Bergman, and had the opportunity to get a day with Ed Coan.

All that is just off the top of my head....

You read a book and took a class. Yeee haw.

Don't get into a dick measuring contest with me. I do not know everything, but you have a long way to go to be able to sit at my table and get sarcastic, condescending and patronizing, with me.

I would be happy to discuss why a deep squat is perfectly OK, but I suggest you buy Starting Strength by Rippetoe and read that first. Until then, please let me quote him.

"Anyone who says that full squats are "bad for the knees" has, with that statement, demonstrated conclusively that they are not entitled to an opinion about the matter. People who know nothing about a topic, especially a very technical one that requires specific training, knowledge, and experience, are not due an opinion about that topic and are better served by being quiet when it is asked about or discussed. For example, when brain surgery, or string theory, or the NFL draft, or women's dress sizes, or white wine is being discussed, I remain quiet, odd though that may seem. But seldom is this the case when orthopedic surgeons, athletic trainers, physical therapists, or nurses are asked about full squats. "

In the meantime, I would be happy to pass along to all the people I mentioned above how you believe they are wrong, and you one doc and one book are right.

B-

 

[bblazer]

Will you go out with me?

I thought you would never ask. I've been throwing myself at you!

B-