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danielson said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3451491.stm
The rest of your post was spot on too. Obesity treatment saves money on treatments for arthritis, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea, etc.
A lifetime of poor diet and inactivity, and YOU are paying for it
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3451491.stm
The rest of your post was spot on too. Obesity treatment saves money on treatments for arthritis, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea, etc.
nordstrom said:
the feelings of 'most people' by definition are irrelevant. Most people would vote to re-appropriate the fortunes of billionaires to themselves...doesn't mean we do it.
Healthcare unfortunately is different. There is no societal enhancement derived from healthcare as thereis from the other things you referenced. There is an across-the-bosrd benefit from roads, law enforcement etc. The benefit is the same for everyone.
Socialized healthcare chooses one individual over another; the benefits are disproportional. The presence of civic protections (whatever that means, sounds like a special-interest phrase) such as roads, law enforcement etc. are indifferent to the user. They disincentivize no one. Socialization, even partially, of healthcare is a massive disincentive to healthy behavior.
What I don't get is why you would post eht opinions of people on a narrowly focused chat board to support philosophical opinions.
danielson said:
Talk about mixing apples and oranges!
Which countries are you referring to? Oil-rich Norway? Talk about anomalous!!
And Sweden? Sweden has not produced ANY net jobs since 1950. Of Sweden's top 30 companies, none were founded after 1930. Contrast that with the economic growth of the US since 1950: 60M net jobs!
This comparison is such a non-starter....
nordstrom said:
This also makes the naive assumption that it is the role of the government to spend money to save money, as if they have a right to the money in the first place!!
Go Komrade go.
Just admit it: you like using the power of law to take money from the people who produce it. It meets a psychic need of yours.
Buddy_Christ
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a lifetime of poor diet and inactivity will result in death. sadly.
my grandfather, at about 5'7", weighed approx 300lbs at the time of his death. his death was a result of Hypoxia and Cardiac Arrest, the cause was labeled as Obesity (i'm looking at the death certificate as i type this). he had high blood pressure and high chlosterol as a result of his weight. he died at 75.
he was not, however, one to sit around in a moo-moo and suck off the system. he retired full time work in 84, and continued working part time until i believe 94 or 96. he enjoyed his life, never made excuses for his weight (he loved to eat and admitted it, said that was his problem). i've seen his wedding pictures and other pics from when he was much younger and was about 135lbs. hard to imagine that it's the same person.
obesity is a problem. too many people don't lack the discipline to keep their diet in control.
my grandfather, at about 5'7", weighed approx 300lbs at the time of his death. his death was a result of Hypoxia and Cardiac Arrest, the cause was labeled as Obesity (i'm looking at the death certificate as i type this). he had high blood pressure and high chlosterol as a result of his weight. he died at 75.
he was not, however, one to sit around in a moo-moo and suck off the system. he retired full time work in 84, and continued working part time until i believe 94 or 96. he enjoyed his life, never made excuses for his weight (he loved to eat and admitted it, said that was his problem). i've seen his wedding pictures and other pics from when he was much younger and was about 135lbs. hard to imagine that it's the same person.
obesity is a problem. too many people don't lack the discipline to keep their diet in control.
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