56 Days Of Hell, Her I Go!

[OMEGA]

Well I lost 5 pounds so far on this diet

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=194989


but I have been convinced that this diet would be much better,

albeit much harder to follow

Diet Guidelines:

Avoid All starches, You don't need them if your goal is to get down to 4-7 fucking Percent BodyFat.

1. Eat Tons of Green Veggies (Fiber)

2. Eat Lots of Healthy Fats ex. Steak, Flax Oil, E.v. OliveOil, Salmon, Fish Oils, etc. (Energy)

3. Eat TONS of Protein (Preserve Muscles)

4. DRINK 1 1/2 gallons of H20 a day AT LEAST.

Avoid ALL fruit drinks, Juices, rice, breads.

Eat carbos ONLY after a grueling Glycogen depleting workout.

You will have Tons of energy from the Healthy Fats,
Good digestion from the Fiber,
and great Muscle Hardness and Protection from the Protein.

Healthy Fats = Energy
Protein = Muscle Hardness, Muscle Protection
Fiber = Digestion, and various other health Benefits.

begining weight 267, was 272


I hope I can endure this time

 

[Mr.X]

OMEGA,

good to hear that you are putting it to the test...
make sure to get your bodyfat tested before and after, as well as measurements: waist, leg, chest, neck, arms, calfs etc...

I'm with you on this, keep me updated

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

well thankyou

 

[Mr.X]

well thankyou

I'll tell you this...anyone that has the guts to put their money where their mouth is, is on my list of honorable people.

make sure to keep a very strict diet log of food

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

I agree

I will keep a daily tracking of what i eat starting tommorrow

as for BF test I 'll have to estimate last time was 16.8, but after that I gained some fat and muscle, so I would say 18 right now...

measurements I can do, and the scale as well

now to work, and disipline.

 

[OMEGA]

Q on some sort of ergogenic aid pre workout

any advice? on a stimulant pre workout that won't affect appetite too much ?


diet tomarraw!


10 eggs

4 cans o' tuna

4-5 table spoons of mayo

4-5 table spoons of pesto olive oil

65 grams of carbs 50 post workout, 15 through vegitable greens

40 grams of my special glutamine =)

1 b complex multi-vitamin

total calories about 2500-2700 ( this is upper and lower range estimate)

I plan on following this diet on a daily basis till my balls hurt
if I have to have a cheat day it will be once a week, and it wont be a whole day, it will be like a night out with some low carb meatie, fattie food and a couple o' drinks.......

 

[velvett]

So you would only eat greens/veggies after a workout?

 

[OMEGA]

no babe-ola'

green veggies with the protin meals,

and most carbs with the post workout drink...........

 

[rjl296]

no way i have that much fortitude

 

[velvett]

What are you eating for carbs?


BTW... Good Luck

 

[OMEGA]

thanks Velvett sweetness

carbs are fiborous vegitables with the proien meals

and post workout, its a combo of a ripe banana, and whole oatmeal, with Glutamine

 

[ZKaudio]

"special glutamine" ... are you injecting!? cuz that would be ownage

 

[OMEGA]

"special glutamine" ... are you injecting!? cuz that would be ownage

LOL...."ownage" I like that, but no..........all natural

 

[Mr.X]

you're going to lose some muscle, so some anti-catabolic agent is in need

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

you're going to lose some muscle, so some anti-catabolic agent is in need

Mr.X

Yes I know, thats why I am soooo happy I got my batch today =)

seriuosly my man I am a believer, and it has come from past experience

 

[OMEGA]

Deltoids and Tris today will weigh in 4 days from now

 

[OMEGA]

YES. yes I can do this, I will do this, I feel great, I feel ....................

well its back today

diet will be slightly modified today as well

one small extra carb glutamine meal first thing in the am

then one big one post workout

diet today


1 oatmeal/honey/ banana/ glutamine shake
carbs 30

2 boiled eggs 5-7 eggs

WORKOUT

3 oatmeal/honey/ banana/ glutamine shake
carbs 50 ( note: not that much oatmeal in thisone its mostly Glutamine and honey, and banana).....(by the way my Glutamine has 16 grams of protien per heaping table spoon =)


4 2 cans of Tuna, Greens, Olive oil, balsamic vineger


5 big Steak and , Greens, , balsamic vineger

 

[oneandthesame]

I tried this diet. It was okay but eating the carbs post workout made me crave carbs the rest of the night. It was kicking me in and out of ketosis even with the green veggies and no weekly refeeds just did me in.

CKD rules

 

[OMEGA]

thanks for the input, I have not found that problem.

I feel that those post workout carbs nourish my muscles, I feel like a sponge, and after the sponge is full I only crave protien later.

I only get carb cravings twice in the day

first thing in the am, and post workout

 

[JG1]

I've used this diet beofre and the first 3 weeks was amazing, and then I felt like my progress stopped and I started getting fatter. I think it was because I didn't include a refeed/carb-up day once a week.

 

[Mr.X]

I've used this diet beofre and the first 3 weeks was amazing, and then I felt like my progress stopped and I started getting fatter. I think it was because I didn't include a refeed/carb-up day once a week.

Yup, your T4-T3 conversion was lowered and leptin levels dropped. That's the whole problem w/ diets, the long-term fat-loss.

Mr.X

 

[Senior Woonaki]

what can you take to counteract the T4-T3 conversion lowering and leptin levels dropping...

 

[JG1]

what can you take to counteract the T4-T3 conversion lowering and leptin levels dropping...

a refeed/carb-up day

 

[Mr.X]

what can you take to counteract the T4-T3 conversion lowering and leptin levels dropping...

You can take straight T3, which can only be done for a few weeks due to safety reasons. Leptin, I've seen some things out there, but I just don't see the studies that should have been done on them. So, I would recommend a refeed for the leptin part.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

Re: YES. yes I can do this, I will do this, I feel great, I feel ....................

chest and bis today, good workout, getting tighter but have long wat to go, I have cut out some free weighted exercises for I am a little light on enegy now.......

weigh in tommorow

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

I heard that, after a low/no carb diet, once you go back on them you like gain weight real fast. Is this avoided by slowly adding carbs back into your diet?

 

[Mr.X]

I heard that, after a low/no carb diet, once you go back on them you like gain weight real fast. Is this avoided by slowly adding carbs back into your diet?

If you gradually add LOW-GI/FIBEROUS carbs, you will NOT gain bodyfat. The insulin will NOT spike, so there will not be a post-low-carb fat gain problem.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

wiegh today 264-5

Legs and abs today
will weigh in on off days from now on so every 5 days

 

[OMEGA]

workout went very well,

Bu t I am so friggen hungry its horrible, epecially after legs today, I am starving

and I am craving carbs too arghhhhhhhhh!

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Come on man, you can do this. Don't give in to the temptation. fifty-six days is nuttin'. Just think li'l kids word in sweatshops all year 'round, sixteen hours a day! Heh, but seriously, think of the rewards when you're finished! You'll be incredibly ripped. No one will resist you!

 

[Mr.X]

Come on man, you can do this. Don't give in to the temptation. fifty-six days is nuttin'. Just think li'l kids word in sweatshops all year 'round, sixteen hours a day! Heh, but seriously, think of the rewards when you're finished! You'll be incredibly ripped. No one will resist you!

LMFAO lol




Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

Come on man, you can do this. Don't give in to the temptation. fifty-six days is nuttin'. Just think li'l kids word in sweatshops all year 'round, sixteen hours a day! Heh, but seriously, think of the rewards when you're finished! You'll be incredibly ripped. No one will resist you!

thank you for the support

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Haha, 'twas nuttin'.

 

[OMEGA]

feel good

damn this glutamine is increasing my recovery at a geometric rate

I did chest , delts, and tri today, then at night I ran two miles

I feel like I am on a cycle of primo and dbol

cutting caffeine has really increased cellullar water retention as well

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Ya' know, I bet Mr. X will post and say Glutamine has been proven to do nothing in terms of increasing recovery unless taken in extremely large quantities, but I have something to say about that.

It's possible, I think, that it's part in the mind. I don't have the article at hand, but I remember a test was done. Twenty-six people were sick with the common cold. Half of them were given an actual medicine (Tylenol, perhaps), the other half were given water mixed with a few things (I can't remember what, I'm guessing to make it taste/look like Tylenol). They were not told it wasn't medicine, they believed it was.

My point is, at the end of that test, more of the paitents who were given the water recovered just as quickly, if not faster than the others. Now, I know there could be many variables, but I remember part of that being covered. The subjects were male, in their 20's, no background of any immune-system-weakening diseases, and when asked what they did for vitamins and minerals, most just said they drank a glass or so of orange juice daily.

I dunno, found it interesting and remembered it before so I figured I'd post. Just trying to point out that maybe things can be... erm... "psycho-sematic"? I dunno if that's the right word to use here, or if I spelled it correctly. Oh well.

 

[OMEGA]

honestly I thought about that, but I just can't explain to you the benifit form this particular form its nothing short of unbelievable

I won't hide the fact that I plan to market this product, but I want to market it cus I truly believe in it, and the people that back me do too ( note: they did not at first ttill they took it Lol )


its helping me so much I know it can help others..and that makes me happy if I have the ability to do that

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Haha, harsh man.

 

[Mr.X]

Ya' know, I bet Mr. X will post and say Glutamine has been proven to do nothing in terms of increasing recovery unless taken in extremely large quantities, but I have something to say about that.
Actually glutamine has been proven to do nothing period in terms of ANTI-CATABOLISM, even in large doses

It's possible, I think, that it's part in the mind.
are you saying recover is in the mind?

I don't have the article at hand, but I remember a test was done. Twenty-six people were sick with the common cold. Half of them were given an actual medicine (Tylenol, perhaps), the other half were given water mixed with a few things (I can't remember what, I'm guessing to make it taste/look like Tylenol). They were not told it wasn't medicine, they believed it was.
So I'm assuming you're using the old study of the water being mixed w/ glutamine...ok, I'm listening

My point is, at the end of that test, more of the paitents who were given the water recovered just as quickly, if not faster than the others.
that's why I say glutamine DOES have immunological boosting properties

Now, I know there could be many variables, but I remember part of that being covered. The subjects were male, in their 20's, no background of any immune-system-weakening diseases, and when asked what they did for vitamins and minerals, most just said they drank a glass or so of orange juice daily.
yes, the subjects were the average Joe....
which proves that glutamine MIGHT have an immunological boosting property but nothing more

I dunno, found it interesting and remembered it before so I figured I'd post. Just trying to point out that maybe things can be... erm... "psycho-sematic"?
you're saying that recover is "psychosomatic" , which basically means that a disorder that has psysical symptoms but originates from mental or emotional causes...
why?

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

well I did Back and Bis today yesterday

I was breaking my body parts more, but my recovery rate has dramatically increased

and I jogged 2 miles tonight

so far so good but I think

I will introduce 2 definitaive carb meals to the diet, so it's a partial amending of the diet, but NOT by much

I talked to Tha CrumCake ( good dude) via PM

and I have decided to have 2 carb meal in this way


in the AM 50 Grams of carbs , ( a combo of complex and simple carbs with glutamine


AFTER WORKOUT I will have fruit Juice ( 50 grams) with glutamine



the rest is all vegitables, fats and Protien

any way I weighed my self and am actually one pound heavier (265---------I think its some water retention in the muscles from the glutamine) but still I was 272 when i started which was about 14 days ago


officially I have 50 DAYS left

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Uhm... Mr. X what I basically said was that perhaps there's more to the human body than we actually understand. Perhaps if the human mind has a strong enough belief towards something, then it almost "tricks" the body into thinking it to be true.

Look, studies have been done. And no, I don't have links or articles, but I don't need them. I don't wanna prove it to you (that they exist), I just wanted to bring up the fact that it could be possible (to certain extents) that the mind can have an effect on our physical being as well. Just a thought.

 

[Mr.X]

Uhm... Mr. X what I basically said was that perhaps there's more to the human body than we actually understand. Perhaps if the human mind has a strong enough belief towards something, then it almost "tricks" the body into thinking it to be true.

Look, studies have been done. And no, I don't have links or articles, but I don't need them. I don't wanna prove it to you (that they exist), I just wanted to bring up the fact that it could be possible (to certain extents) that the mind can have an effect on our physical being as well. Just a thought.

That's very true, the mind does have a profound effect on us....

But, when it comes to glutamine (which was the topic), I find it useless.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

energy level have bottomed out, but are stable

so the workout s re good, but not like when I pumped full of carbs

anywway 49 days left

did chest tri and delts today

will do back on the day after Christmas

merry Christmas everyone

I will probaly go back to this for a little the catdio is starting to get to me, not bad just I just don't need to hit evrything twice a week

so I proabaly will settle with htis program for the remainder of the diet

delts and tis day 1

back day 2

chest and bis day 3

legs and abs day 4

day 5 off or repeat

cardio every night 2 miles

 

[OMEGA]

48 days left

off today same weight 265

 

[OMEGA]

47 days left

great workout! I got friggen pumped from that day off

 

[OMEGA]

starting to feel genuinly lighter 46 days left will weogh in in 3 days

 

[OMEGA]

46 dya sleft I had to have pizza tonight, but it wa slow carb pizza, 4 slices has 40 grams of carbs from whole wheat

any way feel somewhat guilty, but screw it!

I did legs and abs today alomost carb free this morning till I got nautious stiff legged deadlifts and free weight sqauts back to back oh yeah!

 

[OMEGA]

NOOOOOOO! I am only 265! damn!

I started incorporating a little ECA before workouts and itw orkes don't get me wrong, but I think my thyroid crashes when I am not using it, i think its actually hindering my weight los?!?!!?

argh!

 

[Mr.X]

NOOOOOOO! I am only 265! damn!

I started incorporating a little ECA before workouts and itw orkes don't get me wrong, but I think my thyroid crashes when I am not using it, i think its actually hindering my weight los?!?!!?

argh!

I don't know if ECA would hinder the fat-loss, if anything, it should increase it...maybe your body hit a plateu that we talked about in your original post of this diet.

Mr.X

 

[stryder]

Wow bro, some guys are hard gainers, you gotta be a hard dieter. I have done a lot of dieting and I would say that ECA or NYC doesn't hurt the thyroid as long as you don't overdo it, and most people do. I usually do 6-12mg ephedrin and 40 -90mg caffiene right before my workout. The recomended dose is usually 2 pills, three times a day and I get great results with no crash at 1/4 -1/2 pill once or twice a day at most ( morning and pre-workout) I also think that 12.5-25 mcg of T3 is very helpful and won't kill your thyroid if you don't go over that.

Are you taking any AS? Test keeps me from losing pounds unless its test prop at 200mg/ week or less. Most people on this board will say that AS doesn't cause weight loss, and they are right, but I think it does keep your body from adjusting to the calory restictions. Just like you can't gain muscle without lifting heavy even w/ AS, I think you also can't lose fat w/ AS if you don't diet, but AS helps both of these processes, especially when it come to retaining lean mass.

Just a thought, but have you tried clen? It works wonders for me me (although I can't take it without mild AS or I lose a ton of muscle), even though I do feel all beat up on it with the cramps and tightness it causes.

Good luck
styder

 

[OMEGA]

thank stryder =)

good thoughts

I was thinking on some winnie if I have too =(

but I don't want too

any way clen sucks, I hate it, but I might do ecz twice a day to avoid the crash

I did that today and feel very good, I took it just like you recommended

any way I will weigh in 5 days or so lets see what happens

 

[OMEGA]

45 day left one day added =)

 

[OMEGA]

things back on track will weigh in on TUES lets see what happens

 

[OMEGA]

well 43 days left and I can say that my waist has gotten smaller, and I see more muscle esp deltiods and qauds, i got to get a lttle harder on the diet. too bad I am not taking a low dose of AS beacasue I can see how that would make this diet perfect

I was in reality having two carb meals when I should really only have one, and that should be post workout. another thing is that the diet calls for cruciferous vegitables with your protien and fats, these vegitables have some carbs to them, not much, but enough to keep energy levels up.

all I have been having is leafy greens, wich provide only 2 grams of fiber, and no carbs at all
so I think the diet maybe too strict in that regard

I should have, and will start consuming vegitables with "meat" to them =)

like egg plant, sqaush, cauliflower, bellpeppers, onions, tomatoes, zuchinni, broccoli..ets...

these should be eaten with your lean sources of protien


and the post workout meal I had all wrong, I had too many complex carbs that were low gi


any way weigh in tommorrow

 

[Mr.X]

good job

you're working hard, I must say

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

thanks MR X. =(

jezus!i am lighter but by only f%^cken

1.5 pounds!

I am 263.5

also I changed to more of a old school program

1 day on 1 day off

i am determind to get down to 255! or less

 

[OMEGA]

260 on the dot!

but I feel flat, I might change the diet, not to be week, but I think its best for those on anabolics =(

I am gonna give it another week just for fat loss purposes,

but I need to be more full

theoretically 34 days left, but i think I will give it only another 10.

it great for fat loss, but I have indeed lost muscle, i bet if in the future, I took as little as 200 mgs of primo a week, or some winnie even.

htis diet will work great

the thing that has been great about this diet is that I have been really pushing myself in the gym, and watching what i eat to the T, in most cases=)

I feel ike when I go back more carbs I will expoled with some new muscle

 

[LaviathanX]

About the post about the study:

Tylenol, or any other OTC drug (Day/Nyquil, etc), reduces the symptoms of the common cold. It does not decrease the length of the cold, and there is no cure. Therefore both groups would recover basically at the same time. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Well, being cured as far as they can tell is the person not having those symptoms. Medicine reduces the symptoms or help "contain" then I guess you can say. When someone's over a cold, they tend to not show any signs of a cold anymore, thus the symptoms are gone.

 

[OMEGA]

just so you guys know I got to 255

but I have now changed thing s alittle

 

[gymrat]

bump

 

[Zagreus]

Is it just me or does this diet look like "The One Crum Ultimate"?

Zag-

 

[gymrat]

Is it just me or does this diet look like "The One Crum Ultimate"?

Zag-

It is

 

[OMEGA]

my conclusions form it

was that if your natural.

it works for like 2 weeks maybe three


but then it becomes too hard for your body.


however this prob. could be reamidied with one more carb meal


so instead of one post workout carb meal.


you have on ein the am

and one post workout