23yr old blast and cruise?

[Soadman]

Sick of feeling like shit after every cycle but Is it a bad decision to blast and cruise I am only 23 what's y'all's thoughts on this please no bashin I'm being serious here thanks in advance!!!!!

 

[Fitguy308]

Unless you are trying to be a pro then no that's retarded

 

[stevesmi]

did u read my thread where I ran natty supps and look and feel great? if i can do it with average genetics than anyone can!

bad idea at your age!! what happens in 2 years from now if you decide you want to get out of the lifestyle for a while? you won't be able to produce your own testosterone and best case it will be VERY hard to salvage your natty levels and will be hell.

 

[Jbranken]

What if you decide to do this and you lose your job at some point in life? How will you afford it? What if you can't source it anymore? This is forever man. You talk like you've done a bunch of cycles already at 23, that's crazy. Just slow down and really think about this, you could regret it down the road. Also may want to bank some sperm if you do this. There are some great pct supps out there that really help come off cycles easier too. Some are so good that I kinda look forward to pct bc it's almost like a 'natural cycle' and you can bust your ass trying to keep your gains. That's the good stuff

 

[Soadman]

did u read my thread where I ran natty supps and look and feel great? if i can do it with average genetics than anyone can!

bad idea at your age!! what happens in 2 years from now if you decide you want to get out of the lifestyle for a while? you won't be able to produce your own testosterone and best case it will be VERY hard to salvage your natty levels and will be hell.

Yes suppose I agree not worth the risk al check out thread what you mentioned and add more things to my pct maybe that will help me out cheers!

 

[stevesmi]

Yes suppose I agree not worth the risk al check out thread what you mentioned and add more things to my pct maybe that will help me out cheers!

post up what you did before and lets see what we can work on.

if you don't run proper ancillaries on cycle and then your pct is poor it can be a rough time obviously.. we need to work on your strategy

 

[Soadman]

What if you decide to do this and you lose your job at some point in life? How will you afford it? What if you can't source it anymore? This is forever man. You talk like you've done a bunch of cycles already at 23, that's crazy. Just slow down and really think about this, you could regret it down the road. Also may want to bank some sperm if you do this. There are some great pct supps out there that really help come off cycles easier too. Some are so good that I kinda look forward to pct bc it's almost like a 'natural cycle' and you can bust your ass trying to keep your gains. That's the good stuff

Cheers for that bud yea Idea is already out of my head got a lot of years yet !

 

[Soadman]

post up what you did before and lets see what we can work on.

if you don't run proper ancillaries on cycle and then your pct is poor it can be a rough time obviously.. we need to work on your strategy

Yes I will have a look about see where I'm going wrong cheers

 

[buddhabuilder]

The reason so many of us talk so highly about HCGenerate, N2Slin, Gear, Bridge, and Forma Stanzol is that they really work. I love the feeling of being on these products and my training is great. Do the research you talked about and take your training to a whole different universe.

 

[Soadman]

The reason so many of us talk so highly about HCGenerate, N2Slin, Gear, Bridge, and Forma Stanzol is that they really work. I love the feeling of being on these products and my training is great. Do the research you talked about and take your training to a whole different universe.

Yes I'll have to give them a shot pal only tried the hcgenerate myself !

 

[stevesmi]

Yes I will have a look about see where I'm going wrong cheers

a lot of times its estrogen related. my first injectable cycle i listened to guys who don't even cycle for advice on other boards, i went through a bad pct and it was scary. through trial and error i figured out what i was doing wrong and IMO a lot of it was estrogen related. i wasn't controlling it on cycle and then off cycle i was crushing it too much. caused a major roller coaster.

 

[Soadman]

a lot of times its estrogen related. my first injectable cycle i listened to guys who don't even cycle for advice on other boards, i went through a bad pct and it was scary. through trial and error i figured out what i was doing wrong and IMO a lot of it was estrogen related. i wasn't controlling it on cycle and then off cycle i was crushing it too much. caused a major roller coaster.

Yea well I haven't been using an ai mate no one as em round here for some reason so I only had nolva on hand but I don't seem to have problem with gyno last cycle was 1000mg a week test e and still no gyno made some good gains leaned out a lot now I'm 3 week in pct feeling ok lost a few pounds but I obviously need an ai !
Oh and my pct is
50mg clomid daily
Hcgenerate
Horny goat weed for limp dick lol
Tribulus
Nolvadex 20mg daily
Vitamin c high dose
Couldn't get hcg either but I ain't doing another cycle without it!!!
Nuts are starting to come back slowly but after a workout my bag is real tight very worried after workouts!
Next cycle I'm gonna drop the test to 750mg no higher 1000mg is completely unnessasary guys at the gym saying I need atleast a gram a week bs !

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ the nolva and clomid stack is making you feel shitty my friend. been there and done that myself. i don't understand why guys continue to torture themselves like this with pct's designed by guys who are on TRT for life.

you need a better pct like i sent you through PM.

have you ever wondered why guys who recommend nolva/clomid are all on TRT? ALL OF THEM ARE!!! cause they end up like you and give up on pct so say fuck it let me stay on for life. so then they go on TRT and continue re-gurgitating that same pct to others as if its gospel. or if they aren't on TRT they come off for 3 weeks, feel like shit then jump back on which isn't even coming off in the first place. and then declare themselves geniuses cause they kept their gains (duh cause the esters never cleared their body!!)

i can only lead you to water, i cannot make you drink

 

[Soadman]

^^^ the nolva and clomid stack is making you feel shitty my friend. been there and done that myself. i don't understand why guys continue to torture themselves like this with pct's designed by guys who are on TRT for life.

you need a better pct like i sent you through PM.

have you ever wondered why guys who recommend nolva/clomid are all on TRT? ALL OF THEM ARE!!! cause they end up like you and give up on pct so say fuck it let me stay on for life. i can only lead you to water, i cannot make you drink

Yes man I agree I've been trying my ass off to get hcg but can't get it I'm gonna leave it now tho cause nuts are coming back slowly my own fault I know but when you only have one source and he doesn't use hcg there's nothing I could do mate!
And I truly appreciate your advice Steve really just couldn't get the hcg Pal!
Yes and he told me to take 3 week off like you say but I'm not I'm taking few month off pal...
I even found a source online but he wanted £50 for 5000iu I ain't paying that much for it...
If the nuts are coming back is that a good sign or am I not out the woods yet cause last cycle I ran nolva clomid nuts can back and I was fine !
No bloodwork to prove it like but I felt ok?
When would a good time be to get blood work done how long after cycle ?

 

[SinisterUproar]

Yes man I agree I've been trying my ass off to get hcg but can't get it I'm gonna leave it now tho cause nuts are coming back slowly my own fault I know but when you only have one source and he doesn't use hcg there's nothing I could do mate!
And I truly appreciate your advice Steve really just couldn't get the hcg Pal!
Yes and he told me to take 3 week off like you say but I'm not I'm taking few month off pal...
I even found a source online but he wanted £50 for 5000iu I ain't paying that much for it...
If the nuts are coming back is that a good sign or am I not out the woods yet cause last cycle I ran nolva clomid nuts can back and I was fine !
No bloodwork to prove it like but I felt ok?
When would a good time be to get blood work done how long after cycle ?

That's really not that bad a price for HCG bro

 

[Soadman]

That's really not that bad a price for HCG bro

Dude £50 is 74 dollars that is expensive!
For 5000iu

 

[CaliRobK]

Dude £50 is 74 dollars that is expensive!
For 5000iu

My gains and for sure my balls are worth way more than 74 bucks to me...

 

[stevesmi]

yes get bloodwork and post them up to see where things are at

 

[Soadman]

My gains and for sure my balls are worth way more than 74 bucks to me...

Well my balls are on the way back any way and I haven't lost any size at all just few pounds water weight and its too late for hcg now any way it would probably slow down recovery at this point!
Gonna get bloodwork any way so ill pos up when I get that sorted !