21 yo bulking - jaw surgery

[Mr. Chicago]

I eat 4000 clean calories everyday; so, it can be done. Don't do a raw vegan diet, I tried that and it's terrible. If you do, just be prepared.

I'm just like you my man but the complete opposite, if I look at food I gain weight and not the good kind. I was obese my entire life. I was 350 pounds when I graduated form high school at probably 30%+ bf. I'm now 260 and about 14% and it's all attributed to good diet and proper training. I have never taken AAS before.

Everyone on here is right tho, if you are a hard gainer you are going to have to eat a ton of dirty calories, if you want to get big quick. However, if you want to eat clean and don't mind getting bigger gradually, then you can most definitely eat 4000+ calories of clean food a day. I even go as far as eating 95% all organic. If you chose to go the high calorie clean eating way just be prepared to have a $200-$300 grocery bill a week.

This is good advice too!

 

[Farting]

I think somebody posted a similar thread on and it might have been you. Don't do it dude. Don't look for that one answer that says it might be okay. When the overwhelming reply is no just listen to those people. why does the word s t e r o i d o lo g y not appear?

 

[dh92]

Guys, would a cutting cycle be any different from a bulking cycle? Would all gains from a cutting cycle before jaw surgery also be lost?

 

[dh92]

I think somebody posted a similar thread on and it might have been you. Don't do it dude. Don't look for that one answer that says it might be okay. When the overwhelming reply is no just listen to those people. why does the word s t e r o i d o lo g y not appear?

It most probably was me. Just wanted to share some further info and ask some more questions. I still haven't done anything. My doctor told me that I would only be on a soft foods diet, not a liquid diet. Weight loss: 1kg max.

But still, my mind never stops thinking...

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah okay. i'm sure your doc is capable of guestimating how much weight you will lose just by looking at you.

it doesn't work like that

if you are a real lifter and stop lifting weights and eating like a bodybuilder then you will lose many pounds... because your body is over built as it is

 

[dh92]

I've had two cycles suggested to me by my personal trainer, a fitness model.

First cycle:

1 ml - 300 mg Primobolan
1 ml - 500 mg Sustanon 250
1/2 ml - 200 mg Boldenon

2 x week

1 mg Arimidex each day, 20 mg Turinabol each day

Second cycle (don't have all the specifics):

300 mg Primobolan
Equipoise
HGH
Test (possibly, my suggestion to my personal trainer)

Hopefully Arimidex will fall part of the cycle as well, but if Test isn't added, apparently I don't need it.

Please share any or all considerations.

 

[bonacris]

You really don't listen, do you?

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[dh92]

You really don't listen, do you?

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Everything on this forum doesn't have to translate to reality. I'm asking you guys for advice, that's all. I'm not even close to making up my mind about anything. I just want to feel things out. Don't assume the worst, because it REALLY REALLY may just be a case of me asking. I, at least, like being informed, whether I take steroids or not.

 

[bonacris]

So let's look at the cycle.
Primo
Sust
Eq

That was one cycle yeah.. how do you react to these compounds?

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[dh92]

So let's look at the cycle.
Primo
Sust
Eq

That was one cycle yeah.. how do you react to these compounds?

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How do I react to these compounds? Well, I don't know yet.