Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below No, I guess, I haven't. I should find someone to tell me about it then. And a bulking cycle with clean eating also not helpful?
No, I guess, I haven't. I should find someone to tell me about it then. And a bulking cycle with clean eating also not helpful?
Mr. Chicago
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You weigh 140 fucking pounds soaking wet, I'm amazed you even have 8%BF to be honest. You don't want to bulk otherwise you would have already, you want to gain a couple pounds a year and stay a lean muscle less little guy, which is fine but what in the world would even make you consider using sauce if you don't want to blow up? You could eat clean as you want but like bonacris said if you had to eat even 3,000 cals like you want to a day you would never get there and you would be sick of it in a week. You say you want to bulk up bc you have a surgery coming up then do it. I had a bad accident 4 years back, went into the hospital at 230 came out 6 weeks later at 142 lbs. It took me 2 years to gain the weight back but I did it. You think it was easy going back to the gym at 140 and putting up 95 lbs for 4 fucking reps? You're happy at 140 and afraid of a puffy face haha you sound like a manorexic to me in all honestly but either way good luck to you man in all your confusion, you're still young and unsure what you want to do. I was the same way a few years back, I would bounce back and forth whether I wanted to be 185-195 ripped to shreds fitness model look or 235-250 still ripped but side walk cracking heavy lifting talk of the gym. I could go from one or the other in the matter of several months with just diet and training. When you say bulk what are you talking, like 5 - 10 lbs. tops?
rustilldown
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Oats eggs steak and natty pb. Mixed nuts.
Put 500 calories of mixed nuts into 1.5 cups plain fat free Greek yogurt. Add some cinnamon and a cup raw oats. Also add half scoop chocolate whey, drizzle with honey and munch out. Follow that with 4 tbsp natty peanut butter before bed. Fuck it's so easy to bulk while eating cleanish. . Just find high calorie foods that are low in sodium and sugar, and your face likely won't blow up. Especially not on gear... going on a vegan diet to bulk I can not offer advice on... I don't know what you would eat
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rustilldown
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I do want to bulk! Just not by eating fried chicken and pizza the whole days. I want to be able to bulk while still following a clean diet. Did you even read my previous posts?
And if someone considers using sauce, wouldn't it be better to eat clean? You're already putting a lot of pressure on your system.
I'm not happy at 140, otherwise I would not have started this thread. I was manorexic when I was in high school. That's exactly why I want to bulk up. Sometimes I still catch a glimpse of that manorexic past. And it terrifies me.
Being young and unsure, I would rather want advice than jokes being made about me. I'm in on the joke, you laughing at the joke doesn't help anyone.
Help me become sure. I want to put on 15 kilos, that's my goal.
And why haven't I juiced before my surgery yet? Because some people tell me to go for it, then other people tell me to fuck off because I'm too young. Who should I count on?
bonacris
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Well if you are undergoing surgery in a few months I would just put on a as much weight naturally.. If you can't eat while your are in PCT you will lose every pound you gain.. Mark my words.. bulk naturally, recover from surgery and then go from there.. but right now gear is not the answer
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why don't you do more research on proper diet and training?
read the sticky in the diet section on bulking. follow that
and then you need to learn how to lift ... you probably don't even work your legs properly. you have a lot of homework to do.
your trainer is trying to rape your wallet offering HGH, don't be a sucker. he will sell you bunk crap and you will lose hundreds for nothing.. that money should be invested in food.
and yes you need carbs to gain weight. I eat carbs after EVERY workout. and I eat healthy. you don't need to be scared to eat bro. carbs are even more important than protein, and 99% of internet guru's disagree with me on that but usually you find out they are some skinny kid with some abs. you want to get big you gotta eat big and you gotta lift big. when I started bulking I would order for two at dinner. learn to love food, otherwise you stand no chance. and work your fucking legs. squats, deads, compound lifts. standing in front of the mirror doing 25 pound curls isn't gonna do shit for you, yet I see skinny dudes doing that everytime I go to the gym. I barely ever do curls, you build arms doing rows, pulls and pullups.. not doing fucking curls like you see on youtube. its all for show
I wish you lived close to me and I would invite you to my gym and you would work out alongside me and you won't be able to walk out of the gym, that's the kind of intensity it takes. and for the love of allah EAT EAT EAT. protein shakes and all that shit is just the way pro's make money off dumb kids endorsing that shit. guess how many protein shakes I have drank in the past year.. maybe 1 or 2 at the most.. and the last time I dry heaved after drinking it. shit is nasty and my body doesn't want it, it wants real food.
read the sticky in the diet section on bulking. follow that
and then you need to learn how to lift ... you probably don't even work your legs properly. you have a lot of homework to do.
your trainer is trying to rape your wallet offering HGH, don't be a sucker. he will sell you bunk crap and you will lose hundreds for nothing.. that money should be invested in food.
and yes you need carbs to gain weight. I eat carbs after EVERY workout. and I eat healthy. you don't need to be scared to eat bro. carbs are even more important than protein, and 99% of internet guru's disagree with me on that but usually you find out they are some skinny kid with some abs. you want to get big you gotta eat big and you gotta lift big. when I started bulking I would order for two at dinner. learn to love food, otherwise you stand no chance. and work your fucking legs. squats, deads, compound lifts. standing in front of the mirror doing 25 pound curls isn't gonna do shit for you, yet I see skinny dudes doing that everytime I go to the gym. I barely ever do curls, you build arms doing rows, pulls and pullups.. not doing fucking curls like you see on youtube. its all for show
I wish you lived close to me and I would invite you to my gym and you would work out alongside me and you won't be able to walk out of the gym, that's the kind of intensity it takes. and for the love of allah EAT EAT EAT. protein shakes and all that shit is just the way pro's make money off dumb kids endorsing that shit. guess how many protein shakes I have drank in the past year.. maybe 1 or 2 at the most.. and the last time I dry heaved after drinking it. shit is nasty and my body doesn't want it, it wants real food.
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ibleedoranbla
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I eat 4000 clean calories everyday; so, it can be done. Don't do a raw vegan diet, I tried that and it's terrible. If you do, just be prepared.
I'm just like you my man but the complete opposite, if I look at food I gain weight and not the good kind. I was obese my entire life. I was 350 pounds when I graduated form high school at probably 30%+ bf. I'm now 260 and about 14% and it's all attributed to good diet and proper training. I have never taken AAS before.
Everyone on here is right tho, if you are a hard gainer you are going to have to eat a ton of dirty calories, if you want to get big quick. However, if you want to eat clean and don't mind getting bigger gradually, then you can most definitely eat 4000+ calories of clean food a day. I even go as far as eating 95% all organic. If you chose to go the high calorie clean eating way just be prepared to have a $200-$300 grocery bill a week.
ibleedoranbla
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This is probably the best reply in this entire thread. Read it and then read it again.
Mr. Chicago
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^^^ Yessir! And no one is laughing at you bro. I didn't realize you struggled with that, my gf used to be bullemic and I'm always careful not to push food on her or say anything stupid so I apologize. If you have the money by all means eat clean as you want but you're going to have to do so like an animal, no 3-4 meals a day shit, every 2 hours and then some. You have to fight the urge to cut back on cals bc of your self image and struggles with food, but if you stick with it you'll be able to turn that extra weight into rock hard muscle. You can't gain muscle without putting a lil bit of weight on first bro, good luck.
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