**1000mg of test and 800mg of deca for a newbie**

[BIGEDD]

A few of days ago i met someone i used to train with a couple of years ago. We started talking then we got onto the subject of roids, he was natural but thinking about doing it for sometime he knew his stuff as well. I suggested a dbol/test/deca cycle i had great gains with it as my first. The dosages would be dbol 1-6weeks @30md
enanthate 1-10@500
deca 1-10@400
Thing is he asked if he should frontload with 1g of test and 800mg of deca. He knew his stuff and said it would make his blood levels more stable and faster. I tried to persuade him not to but he said''If it's more effective why not''.
Do you think it is ok if he frontloads 1g of test and 800 deca for the first week? or is there are more effective way? Should he maybe do these in less but for two weeks eg 600 deca & 750 test for two weeks?!!!

 

[Golfer18--old]

No for a first cycle, he will great gains without dropping that much juice. More isnt always better.

 

[pretyboy]

I agree that sounds like a bit much for a first cycle. Easy to get over zealous but ya need to get his feet back on the ground.

 

[cobra kid]

IMHO, that is way to much juice for a newbie.

 

[Bill W]

I think that's too much, but if he wants to front load it, he doesn't need to double the doses.

 

[manny78]

1000 mg of test: no way except if I run arimidex at 1 mg ED.

800 mg of deca: only using Ru-486. At such high dosage its too risky....

 

[BIGEDD]

Would it be safer to do the second option i suggested eg:600 deca & 750 test for two weeks?!!!

 

[MustAdministerSeroidS]

My first was dbol 20mg/d week1 25mg week2 30mg week3=4 20mg week5
Deca at 400mg 8 weeks sus at 250 mg 10 weeks gained 20lb if i could change it i would have used 500mg sus or just left it out.


M.A.S.S

 

[drrman]

maybe frontload the test, but i'd never take that much deca in a week

 

[SkullFuct]

A few of days ago i met someone i used to train with a couple of years ago. We started talking then we got onto the subject of roids, he was natural but thinking about doing it for sometime he knew his stuff as well. I suggested a dbol/test/deca cycle i had great gains with it as my first. The dosages would be dbol 1-6weeks @30md
enanthate 1-10@500
deca 1-10@400
Thing is he asked if he should frontload with 1g of test and 800mg of deca. He knew his stuff and said it would make his blood levels more stable and faster. I tried to persuade him not to but he said''If it's more effective why not''.
Do you think it is ok if he frontloads 1g of test and 800 deca for the first week? or is there are more effective way? Should he maybe do these in less but for two weeks eg 600 deca & 750 test for two weeks?!!!

The 400mg of deca is too much for a newbie too.
How about :
-- test enanthate 250mg/wk (load with 500mg)
--deca 200mg/wk
-dbol: 25mg/day
This will give awesome gains. No need to do more IMO.