BrothaBill said:
that's why they think they can 'whisper' to horses or dogs, b/c they are ignorant.
Same behavior can be replicated scientifically with a laymen in a few hours. There is nothing to it and I grew up around horses so you don't hold some argumentary sword about experience to throw in his face.
The problems are generally, people "figuring out their own mechanism" with a given animal population.
It hardly carries over as a substantial document, it is so specific and confine to the environment and the subjects (animal and trainer) that is completely worthless in any discussion.
Discussion of accepted behaviorial traits may offer some insight or discussion on the matter but the anectdotal stuff of "...I had...." is always dismissed in the advanced world b/c of the fallacies it often entails.
I could point out numerous examples as to why anectdotal evidence is very poor in an educated debate but I said I didn't want to bicker. But if you are going to argue, you should learn what is generally accepted or not accepted b/c it prevents me having to list numerous examples of why logic you are using are flawed and discounted.
It would save me time
Don't encourage him Bill. At least you'll give someone credit that MAYBE once in a great while granted, that a NON intellectual and/or female is capable of making a rational argument.
I've NEVER claimed to be capable of holding my own against you, Hiatt or lots of other "smart people"
on the board when it comes to intellectual arguments. Hiatt has been on a high horse all damn day and it started with him managing to mention that children have no value because you can't paint the walls with their brains or have sex with them, and how stupid celebrating Easter was, in the same post.
But be reasonable, do you really think you can take an ice cold laymen, slap an animal husbandry textbook in his hands, and have him bringing an animal under control, training it? Pulling up the horse whisperer was a dirty card, I admit, but there are trainers out there like that, that good, I've seen em. There are people that animals respond to and will practically walk on water for, it is what it is. I have a cat that responds to my verbal commands. My husband tries the same thing she looks at him like he's stupid
BTW, curiousity, what kind of horses?
But anyway, I've admitted I know I don't have an IQ to compare with Hiatt, but brains ain't everything.
And Bill, I've met a whole lot of doctors that are major assholes. Rude, thoughtless, disrespectful, insular, lacking compassion, empathy, and apparently basic human warmth. Robot physicians.
I have a doctor I work for, I call him "Dr. Asshole." He bitches because his transcription has the occasional blank spot, without understanding (or apparently, caring) that if he would not talk WHILE he is actively burping, eating or yawning while the tape is running he wouldn't have these blank spots. He doesn't seem to understand, or care, there's another human being on the other side of that tape. He spells words you can find in Webster's dictionary (regular words, mind you, not medical terms) and blows through drug names, mispronouncing them HORRIFICALLY, while saying them quickly and not giving me a clue what kind of drug it is or what the drugs purpose it is. None of this would happen if he stopped to realize another person was listening to this ...
And I won't even start with how heartless the fuckers that "took care" of my mother were ... let's say I nearly was removed from the hospital by security because I verbally jumped on a resident. The nurses, however, took me aside later and said everything I said was true and vindicated.
Robot doctors with superiority complexes the world does NOT need more of.
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