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Women, if a man did not pay the tab on the first date, would you go on a second date?

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nefertiti said:
I usually will throw out some suggestions for first date options to avoid any discomfort there. I remember once a guy asked me if I wanted to go out for steak or italian....I said steak thinking that would be something more casual...and he takes me to the fanciest, most expensive steakhouse in DC :worried:

I had a good time and he was a gentleman, but I was a little uncomfortable with someone spending that much on dinner with me when I had only met them a few days beforehand.
Why would you feel uncomfortable? He chose the place. Obviously, he liked you and wanted to treat you well.

Do you feel you don't deserve to be treated that well? I don't understand that way of thinking.
 
heatherrae said:
Why would you feel uncomfortable? He chose the place. Obviously, he liked you and wanted to treat you well.

Do you feel you don't deserve to be treated that well? I don't understand that way of thinking.

lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to show me how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.
 
lol @ the same dudes always arguing with different chicks on this forum..
 
nefertiti said:
lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to impress me with how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.
dont worry about those money grubbing idiots. i think you have amazing character and your humility and all that is way more attractive in a personality than those 2 old spoiled brats will ever be.

ill take you to mortons, ruths chris, sam and harrys, or mcdonalds, your choice
 
BigRupe said:
If I ask the girl out I pay, PERIOD, end of story, but if a girl asks me out and it's been several dates then I expect HER to pay, or offer to pay, or maybe pay the tip.

I notice many women here are looking at the man paying as some sort of "sign" of what kind of man he is.

Well I look at the issue the same way, if a woman ask me out and pays or at least offers then I have MORE respect for her.

I am sure a lot of men here have been used for their money.

I make a lot of money and I have had women attempt to use me. I had one girl once tell me after the second date that her favorite stone was emerald and that her ex bought it for her all the time. She dropped so many hints about "emeralds" being the perfect surprise gift that I felt like buying her one just to get her to stop talking about it.

There was another girl who I dated for about a month or two. All very casual more like a friendship than a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, no sex what-so-ever and about the 5th date she calls me up to take me out to dinner for my "birthday".

She had made reservations at a nice restaurant "Capital Grill" in DC.

I thought it was very sweet but at the end of the dinner when the check came she just sat on her hands until I picked it up and paid the tab.

It wasn't the "money" but I felt disrespected and used. I could have made so many other plans for my birthday.

I never saw her again.

Again I make a high 6 figure income, but if a girl calls to ask me out, especially after several dates, I expect her to pay some portion of that tab. it shows me she isn't taking advantage of me, that she's showing how IMPORTANT I am to her by paying and so on.

Many of you women who are so concerned about how YOU feel should reverse the roll and see how maybe YOU can make the man feel appreciated and so on.

And ladies it's not the "other" things you do because as a man I also do many "other" things.

Plus those other things like "cooking" and so on. I actually love to cook for dates and I am a very good cook and I honestly can't remember the last time a date cooked for me. It's been years.

In any event paying the tab can also show a MAN the kind of woman you are. One of my favorite girl friends was a CIA employee and she usually paid every 3rd or 4th date. She said "I am taking you out this is my treat".

We dated for about a year until she was transferred over seas.

She was one CLASSY lady. I've never respected a woman more than I did her and I LOVED taking her out and buying things because I FELT cared for and appreciated by her gestures of taking me out and so on.

It's a TWO way street, any relationship is a two way street for all the issues.


If you've not found a woman that will cook for you on a date, you're finding the wrong women! I love to cook for a date
Also, women will tend to use you if they know you got some cha-ching.
How do they know you have money? Don't say nice car. b/c even poor dudes can drive nice cars
 
nefertiti said:
lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to impress me with how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just didn't understand that.

So, you think that if a guy takes you to a nice restaraunt and the meal is a little pricey, it implies a certain level of seriousness in the relationship? I've never thought of it that way. I also never thought it was bad that they were trying to impress me. I think that is a good thing that they are trying to put their best foot forward. I try to impress them too. I try to dress up, maybe have my hair and nails done that day. I try to be on my best behavior,etc. I think that is just a matter of showing interest in one another. I like it.

Now, if a guy was just being obnoxious and handing the waitress $100 tips and stuff, that would just be ostentatious and pretentious, and I wouldn't like him. However, taking me to a nice place is just nice.
 
nefertiti said:
lol @ you two. don't put words in my mouth. Of course I deserve to be treated well. But, to me, it implied a level of seriousness that didn't really feel natural at that point.

ps - if a guy is going to do nice things for me, it should be because he cares about me and wants to make me happy, not because he's trying to show me how much dollah he's willing to drop to impress me. There are better ways to spend your money.


What words did I put into your mouth?

I asked you to explain why you felt uncomfortable. I didn't venture a guess.
 
heatherrae said:
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I just didn't understand that.

So, you think that if a guy takes you to a nice restaraunt and the meal is a little pricey, it implies a certain level of seriousness in the relationship? I've never thought of it that way. I also never thought it was bad that they were trying to impress me. I think that is a good thing that they are trying to put their best foot forward. I try to impress them too. I try to dress up, maybe have my hair and nails done that day. I try to be on my best behavior,etc. I think that is just a matter of showing interest in one another. I like it.

Now, if a guy was just being obnoxious and handing the waitress $100 tips and stuff, that would just be ostentatious and pretentious, and I wouldn't like him. However, taking me to a nice place is just nice.
to each their own. id rather a girls first impression of me be for my character, personality, and fun-ness to be around. not how much of a high roller i am
 
SublimeZM said:
dont worry about those money grubbing idiots. i think you have amazing character and your humility and all that is way more attractive in a personality than those 2 old spoiled brats will ever be.

ill take you to mortons, ruths chris, sam and harrys, or mcdonalds, your choice


How am I a *money-grubbing idiot*?
 
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