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Wife's sides on TEST finally kicked in

ArizonaFeeds said:
WOW!!! Didn't mean to start a FIGHT!!!:-) . She had no problems other than MOOD on the tren. Anyway she is off completly. You all play nice OK.


I am not fighting NB....I have always respected her opinion, experience and spirit.

RG

:)
 
Re: I read

ArizonaFeeds said:
Tren. Although I know it is very androgenic, is three times more ANABOLIC than Test.


You are mistaken ....it is three times as ANDROGENIC as test not three times as anabolic. I am pretty sure we do not know how ananbolic it is compaired to test as there is no way to measure that except through experience.

I have done tren a lot and in doses up to 100mg per day. I have also done test a lot and in doses of a gram per week.
IMHO tren is the best NON AROMATIZING steroid for anabolism. Testosterone and the powerful aromatizing steroid d-bol seem to be better than tren in the anabolism department. There is evidence to suggest that the estrogen from aromatization helps with anabolism.

True.....people gain much more WEIGHT while on test due to water retention, but I still think it is a little more anabolic than tren if used alone.

Now a tren/test stack is very synergistic and produces excellent gains in mass and strength BUT I certainly do not recommend this stack for a women as it would be extremely androgenic even at a pretty low dose.

SOME steroid vets like ULTER think that tren is slightly more anabolic than test and they may be right BUT certainly not three times a anabolic.

RG
:)
 
As far as men go

I worked my way up to 200 mg of tren ed. I LOVE the stuff. I MUST stack it with test however, because it shuts me down pretty hard and quick. No PUN intended.:p I just dont seem to gain much weigth on tren. I get strong as hell but my metabolism or whateever it is that causes it, keeps me from gaining. What I DO gain is nice lean muscle however. The tren made the fat just start melting away. I love the pumps too, they can get painful though. And I KNOW i will get flamed for my 200 mg ED but it's ok:) I dont even feel any difference with test until I get above 500 and even more like 700 mg a week.

My wife and I were liking the higher doses of test for her because it is just the two of us and it was like a non-stop two person orgy here night and day. I was hesitant to give that up. I know, selfish, but I asked her and niether was she. We tried 50, 75, 100 mg, it did not have the same effect on her.:p I explained the risks and she understood and seemed to be tolerating it so well. At the first sign of sides we cut her off.:( . Just for the record I would never jeopardize my wifes health or beauty but she WAS tolerating it for a bit. but if tren is three times as androgenic it did not give her the same libido as the test did.

Who knows? she is off now. She really made great gains in both muscle and BF loss and it was fun while it lasted:) It is still fun too, she is a wonderful lady. SHe needed to see the results quickly to feel the motivation so it inspired her to new and better habits as well.
 
Realgains said:
Although tren is a powerful androgen nothing even comes close to testosterone in regard to libido.

RG:)

Why is that? On the surface level, you'd think that the more androgenic something is, the more it would bump up libido. Obviously, that's not true. What combination of factors makes a specific AS boost libido?
 
THeMaCHinE said:


Why is that? On the surface level, you'd think that the more androgenic something is, the more it would bump up libido. Obviously, that's not true. What combination of factors makes a specific AS boost libido?


I don't really know why this is true.
Others examples are d-bol and anadrol....both are very strong androgens but don't bump the libido like test does.

It could be that it is the DHT conversion from test that affects libido more than the actual test itself and DHT is the strongest androgen.

RG
 
hat us my opinion

That it is the DHT.

should be interesting to say the least. I will post them. She told the doc she was on 25mg of test twice a week and it floored the doc. We know her doc personally so it is all off the record.

Obviously the 50mg a week was an understatement to say the least. We want to find the lowest dose that keeps her feeling good and the libido jacked up.

I appreciate all your input as well:)
 
ArizonaFeeds said:
WOW!!! Didn't mean to start a FIGHT!!!:-) . She had no problems other than MOOD on the tren. Anyway she is off completly. You all play nice OK.

He's not fighting...he just likes to make his point...again and again and again...J/K RG! Just giving you a hard time. :D

Anyhow, interesting thread...I don't know shit about any of this stuff (well, only from what I've read here on the boards). My only remaining innocence!:angel:
 
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