As far as men go
I worked my way up to 200 mg of tren ed. I LOVE the stuff. I MUST stack it with test however, because it shuts me down pretty hard and quick. No PUN intended.
I just dont seem to gain much weigth on tren. I get strong as hell but my metabolism or whateever it is that causes it, keeps me from gaining. What I DO gain is nice lean muscle however. The tren made the fat just start melting away. I love the pumps too, they can get painful though. And I KNOW i will get flamed for my 200 mg ED but it's ok
I dont even feel any difference with test until I get above 500 and even more like 700 mg a week.
My wife and I were liking the higher doses of test for her because it is just the two of us and it was like a non-stop two person orgy here night and day. I was hesitant to give that up. I know, selfish, but I asked her and niether was she. We tried 50, 75, 100 mg, it did not have the same effect on her.
I explained the risks and she understood and seemed to be tolerating it so well. At the first sign of sides we cut her off.
. Just for the record I would never jeopardize my wifes health or beauty but she WAS tolerating it for a bit. but if tren is three times as androgenic it did not give her the same libido as the test did.
Who knows? she is off now. She really made great gains in both muscle and BF loss and it was fun while it lasted
It is still fun too, she is a wonderful lady. SHe needed to see the results quickly to feel the motivation so it inspired her to new and better habits as well.