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spatts said:I found 1mg EOD for a week and a half to be way too high.
Interesting. It would be easy enough to start with a half pellet and work up as necessary ...
Wife's sides on TEST finally kicked in
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Interesting. It would be easy enough to start with a half pellet and work up as necessary ...
Just keep in mind that tren is three times as androgenic as testosterone and testosterone is VERY androgenic........so start very low in dose.
I personally know of a women that got very bad sides form low dose tren.....I will ask her what her dose was but I am sure almost certain it was no more than 5mg per day.
I think a women can do a hell of a lot with the mild androgens. Why take the risk if you don't make your living as a bodybuilder or at least plan on turning pro....it makes little sence to me and my wife. Anavar at 15 mg per day will do almost the same for you as 5mg of tren per day with less androgen and risk of androgenic sides.
My wife did 60 of test per week and got more upper lip facial hair and her voice was hoarse for a while(went away after a few months off) . The gains were better for her on winny and also on anavar and the sides were less.
In fact "Fitnesschick" over anabolicfitness is a national level bodybuilder and she NEVER uses test, tren , d-bol and the like. her favorite roid is anavar....and she can squat over 400 pounds and looks fantastic at around 140 pounds of body weight.
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I personally know of a women that got very bad sides form low dose tren.....I will ask her what her dose was but I am sure almost certain it was no more than 5mg per day.
I think a women can do a hell of a lot with the mild androgens. Why take the risk if you don't make your living as a bodybuilder or at least plan on turning pro....it makes little sence to me and my wife. Anavar at 15 mg per day will do almost the same for you as 5mg of tren per day with less androgen and risk of androgenic sides.
My wife did 60 of test per week and got more upper lip facial hair and her voice was hoarse for a while(went away after a few months off) . The gains were better for her on winny and also on anavar and the sides were less.
In fact "Fitnesschick" over anabolicfitness is a national level bodybuilder and she NEVER uses test, tren , d-bol and the like. her favorite roid is anavar....and she can squat over 400 pounds and looks fantastic at around 140 pounds of body weight.
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How do you know that a woman can gain more off Anavar that Tren? I know MANY women that use Tren at LOW dosages with great success. I also know many that can't use Primo or Nandrolone because of sides. Each anabolic affect us differently. You cannot make blanket statements like that. 12.5mg of Prop was way too much for me but there are women here that use 50-200mg w/o any problems.
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BTW.... FC uses other anabolics as well. I am sure you have seen her cycle there. So saying she uses Anavar only is not true. She likes Var yes but it's not the only thing in her stack.
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They get sides off of primo and nandrolone because of the dose and not because they react differently to the stuff. They used too much of the stuff. 50 of test is WAY more androgenic than 50 of primo . there is not a women on the planet that can handle 50 of test better than 50 of primo...NO WAY! The more androgenic the roid the greater the risks for androgenic sides at any given dose. Some women can tolerate a higher androgen load before sides come on but that is it. There is NO WAY that a women can handle a powerful androgen better than any of the weak androgens.
Dose used is extremenly important as all roids are androgens.
Tren is the most powerful androgen safe for DHT and a better muscle builder than any of the milder androgens at the same dose.....but IMHO I think 15 of var will give better muscle gains than 5 of tren.
NB .....any women that takes 200 of test per week for longer than 4 weeks is going to have BAD androgenic sides and I don't care who the hell they are. That dose gives over twice the androgen load that a young man produces.
I am just trying to warn people....these powerful androgens like tren and test are indeed risky....if you don't believe that then there is nothing more I can say.
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RG...why would a woman NEED to take that much test? 200mg a week? If I was in a position where I thought a dose like that was necessary, I'd be doing some serious research about my diet and training. That dose may not be uncommon, but that doesn't mean it's necessary. Dosing is the difference, but I think another problem is dependency (which is very different from addiction but still very much a problem).
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I never said that they weren't androgenic. All AAS is to some degree, however you will advocate Winstrol when I think it's just as androgenic as Test. 50mg/wk of Primo and Nandrolone is not a high dose IMO. They just can't tolerate it. A few of them use 50mg of Winny ED so it's just different for ALL of us (women)
spatts said:RG...why would a woman NEED to take that much test? 200mg a week? If I was in a position where I thought a dose like that was necessary, I'd be doing some serious research about my diet and training. That dose may not be uncommon, but that doesn't mean it's necessary. Dosing is the difference, but I think another problem is dependency (which is very different from addiction but still very much a problem).
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YES....why the hell would any women want to subject herself to 200 of test for weeks on end unless the Olmpia is on the line perhaps. That said there are women that use that much test along with other gear but they sound pretty funny.
I was just commenting on NB's comment about how some can use up to 200 of test with no problems.
RG
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