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Why are there no Chinese fighters in MMA?
- Thread starter anabolicfreak
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ok so no Chinese art is focused on grappling?
and what about all the strikers doing well in mixed?
and your claim that the Kung Fu guys dont train enough is bs
in a country of a billion someone must train enough to equal a pro
and you act like everyone in the UFC is banging away for eight hours a day
more bs, that's the top level guys making enough money that they don't need a regular job, why arn't CMA guys fighting in the midcard levels then?
and as far as throwing out parts of training, it's not like boxing and wrestling are all 100% useable in the cage
a lot of boxings defence is just plain gone
you can't really hide behind 4oz gloves and in wrestling the get off your back is a great ticket to getting choked
and what about all the strikers doing well in mixed?
and your claim that the Kung Fu guys dont train enough is bs
in a country of a billion someone must train enough to equal a pro
and you act like everyone in the UFC is banging away for eight hours a day
more bs, that's the top level guys making enough money that they don't need a regular job, why arn't CMA guys fighting in the midcard levels then?
and as far as throwing out parts of training, it's not like boxing and wrestling are all 100% useable in the cage
a lot of boxings defence is just plain gone
you can't really hide behind 4oz gloves and in wrestling the get off your back is a great ticket to getting choked
CrazyK
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I agree. 8 hours a day of training would be counter productive in my eyes, you'll easily become over trained and burnt out. Physically and mentally.Kane Fan said:
On another note, I've been browsing this forum a while and Djimbe consistently defends Kung Fu blindly. It is not all that applicable to the real world, very old system of doing things when there are newer much more advanced systems of self defense such as Krav Maga.
Djimbe
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Kane Fan said:
Grappling, yes , STANDING Grappling . Not GROUNDFIGHTING , no . It never ervolve there because MA was always the tool of WAR until the age of imperialism , this means way into the 1800s , going to the ground pretty much = death on a Battlefield , for various reasons , and tactics that keep you there are just Suicide .
Im sorry ?
I was refering to Chinese MAists in the states and the like .
Theres no MMA in China , man . I honestly think that theres ONE BJJ school in ALL of the PRC . Its a Communist Goivernment , and they do the sports the state TELL them to . You do San Shou/Wushu , you do Judo , you do Shuaijiao i certain places , or you shut the hell up .
And LIKE it .
Because CMA guys have their OWN Proving Ground (San SHou/San Da) and culture to Support it . With Rules Relative to judge the skills the Way they train . And SOME CMA ppl DO do middlingly well in MMA , Ive seen Local events won by CMA ppl and a guy from Northern Lights Tai Chi puts his guys into Grappling competitions and they meadal .
okaaaayyy , 90+ % .
Djimbe
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CrazyK said:
and YET , ppl with real jobs work 10+ hour days their entire lives and get Immensely strong doing so .
I dont do aythign Blindly . And I Talk about Boxing , Capoeira , Muay thai ... I just dont let pl that know nothing about what they are spaking dump all over somethign that has Value .
This implies that you think that "All Kung Fu Is he Same" wich it very well is NOT ! WICH system is it thats "Too old a way of doing things" , and why ? Oh , you dont know what yore talking about , do you ? Can you name 15 Kung Fu systems and tell me how they do things differently ? Do you know wich systems have Forms and wich dont ?
HAHAHAHAHAHA !!! you pulled the RBSD Tard Card ! OMG , not JUST RBSD , but SRT RBSD ! Krav Maga ! If guys that are holding Uzis use it it MUST work , right ? ANd I LOVE the old "Argument To The New" if its newer it MUST be BETTER , right ?
Im going to give you a free lesson :
Gravity hasnt Changed .
Punching hasnt Changed
Kicking hasnt Changed
Humans havent Evolved to a different Bodytype , still the same Limbs , Torso , Joints , & head .
Djimbe said:
with standing grappling you should be good at avoiding clinch takedowns which can help to keep the fight standing
how can you put a ? mark when I mention strikers doing well in MMA do you even watch MMA? GSP, David Louasioue(sp), RIch Franklin, Andrei Arlovski, Tim Silvia, Chuck Liddel
yah a lot of those guys can roll but they tend to strike on their feet and win that way so what prevents the Chinese from doing the same thing?
so basically your saying the reason there are not Chinese (mainland China) fighters in mixed is cus they are not permitted from the government right?
anabolicfreak
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I didnt think anyone still bought that "mystical, death touch, kung fu" stuff anymore. Watch the Gracie in Action tapes. They fight plenty of Kung Fu experts with absolutely no rules and smoke all of them. I've trained Wing Chun before and its a great art. Centerline theory is very applicable in all aspects of MA and MMA.
Remember, BOTH fighters in MMA have to adhere to the rules. The kung fu fighter isnt the only one with his hands tied.
Remember, BOTH fighters in MMA have to adhere to the rules. The kung fu fighter isnt the only one with his hands tied.
all kungfu being the same are u kiddin me ? lmao CHINESE ARTS HAVE GROUND SKILLS IN THEM. anyway kungfu is a generic term and really means very skilled person. Boxing is the real term used. You won't see alot of mma from China beacause they are alot of traditionalist and think some sport fighting is hokey. Bruce lee thought tourneys were hokey and said most sifu's during his time agreed. Plus they already fought on roof tops nhb for real even with weapons for rep.
