Who else prefers girls with serious boyfriends?

[SoKlueles]

ding ding...round 2

 

[Mandinka2]

Fair enough. I should expect this type of reaction to my post.

1. I'm sorry to hear of your past personal pain from being cheated on. That being said, people cheat all the time and what you don't know won't hurt you. Long term relationships are usually about keeping your eyes wide shut, like it or not. How many people would you like to torture, and would you only torture the ones who were relatively open about their activities?

OK , Nice easy stuff here , first up people murder , rape and pillage all the time , but we don't accept that. Next u forget that u are not the pnly party here pal ,what affect is YOUR interevention in these people's lives having upon their relationship? The fact is you are assisting this female in cheating on her boyfriend (it would seem that they're living together too from your original post) , cheating being a form of abuse. Not only are u assisting in her doing this but she is also losing any respect for him and more than likely he is losing respect for himself as this woman he probably loves and cares deeply for is moving away from him for reasons he does not know. He is being deceived by BOTH her and you. Plenty of non-trailer park relationships are monogamous i assure you , being quite the fuck machine myself i know many women who admit that they do not have sex to fulfill a burning need , more often than not it is to satiate the male (which is in essence a power thing). That is the VERY NON-PC reason why most older couples end up with very little sex indeed. So having established that both you and her are damaging this innocent party in a most heinous way , I would torture all cheaters and those who are knowing accomplices , and go from one couple to the next gleefully. I have studied a fair bit of psychology in college and statistically men are affected more negatively by a cheating partner than they are by that partner's death , that is to say that u are damaging this innocent party more by fucking his woman than by killing her.

2. Define 'healthy'. Is a long-term monogamous relationship 'healthy'? What's better: cheating or divorce? Further, what's worse: Suppression or expression of socially unacceptable but socially pervasive activities? It's up to you.

Although health is in general a relative term , it is fair to say any kind of sexual relationship that is not monogamous within the great apes of which humans are a part is not healthy , numerous studies back this up. Divorce I would say is better since a prerequisite of healthiness is the knowledge that one is healthy , should a person think that they are healthy but carry a potentially fatal illness then it is quite true to say that the person is healthier when armed with that true information since then they are in a position to do something about it (analogous to the way the body prepares to fight infection through generation of extra anti bodies). The question as to whether cheating is socially pervasive is a funny one , particularly since most people seem to agree that cheating is not a healthy state. Suppression is far healthier I would argue which is why we legislate to impose penalties upon spouses caught cheating (rightly) and society frowns upon the practice. At the very least it is deceitful and worse , u are being deceitful to the very person who you sleep beside every night , most cheaters would be devastated to learn that their spouses/partners are cheating on them but they have no problem visiting their hypocritical damage upon their SO. As Schopenhauer correctly argues "Love is nothing without possession".

3. Europe and North America are the only places in the world where marriage is taken to such an extreme ideal that people believe cheating might never happen to them. Long-term relationships usually depend on cheating, from what I have seen. Is that unhealthy? Should we blame certain parties?

Bullshit , Asia is an example of an extremely monogamous society ,far moreso than the two continents mentioned , there is no landmass outside of Africa I am aware of where monogamy (both within and without marraige) is not the standard.

To be very honest, I am extremely dissapointed in most of the responses here. I thought people might give me some insight. Instead, I see stick-up-ass, you-don't-understand-my-pain responses left and right. Having said that, there are a few insightful replies, particularly the one about avoiding intimacy.

you have no right to be dissappointed at others , you must first turn your perception upon yourself , if the argument that it is not right is not enough to prevent you from continuing in your actions then the knowledge that more than likely this female will go on to have children one day , perhaps with this man , should cause you to ponder further. What kind of person are you helping her to become ? What kind of home will that child have ? Normally people are too selfish to ponder the effects of their actions upon greater society as a whole but you have addressed these issues in your post so you should be able to meet this one head-on.

 

[plornive]

OK , Nice easy stuff here , first up people murder , rape and pillage all the time , but we don't accept that. Next u forget that u are not the pnly party here pal ,what affect is YOUR interevention in these people's lives having upon their relationship? The fact is you are assisting this female in cheating on her boyfriend (it would seem that they're living together too from your original post) , cheating being a form of abuse. Not only are u assisting in her doing this but she is also losing any respect for him and more than likely he is losing respect for himself as this woman he probably loves and cares deeply for is moving away from him for reasons he does not know. He is being deceived by BOTH her and you. Plenty of non-trailer park relationships are monogamous i assure you , being quite the fuck machine myself i know many women who admit that they do not have sex to fulfill a burning need , more often than not it is to satiate the male (which is in essence a power thing). That is the VERY NON-PC reason why most older couples end up with very little sex indeed. So having established that both you and her are damaging this innocent party in a most heinous way , I would torture all cheaters and those who are knowing accomplices , and go from one couple to the next gleefully. I have studied a fair bit of psychology in college and statistically men are affected more negatively by a cheating partner than they are by that partner's death , that is to say that u are damaging this innocent party more by fucking his woman than by killing her.

I'll ignore the initial rampage about murder that has nothing to do with my point. I'll also ignore the trailer-park reference.

My experience contrasts yours greatly. I don't know about you, but I have experienced and seen situations in which a girl begs a guy for sex. In fact I have experienced this a lot. Wherever the pleasure comes from, women get off on having sex or the process that surrounds it.

I guess my statement that "what you don't know won't hurt you" was out of place. I'm sure you are right that it hurts the man when his woman cheats. If a man and a woman both have a very solid relationship, I can see this point.

Contrastingly, if their relationship is not very strong, then it is par for the course.

Further, it is a fact and relationships are not islands.

Although health is in general a relative term , it is fair to say any kind of sexual relationship that is not monogamous within the great apes of which humans are a part is not healthy , numerous studies back this up. Divorce I would say is better since a prerequisite of healthiness is the knowledge that one is healthy , should a person think that they are healthy but carry a potentially fatal illness then it is quite true to say that the person is healthier when armed with that true information since then they are in a position to do something about it (analogous to the way the body prepares to fight infection through generation of extra anti bodies). The question as to whether cheating is socially pervasive is a funny one , particularly since most people seem to agree that cheating is not a healthy state. Suppression is far healthier I would argue which is why we legislate to impose penalties upon spouses caught cheating (rightly) and society frowns upon the practice. At the very least it is deceitful and worse , u are being deceitful to the very person who you sleep beside every night , most cheaters would be devastated to learn that their spouses/partners are cheating on them but they have no problem visiting their hypocritical damage upon their SO. As Schopenhauer correctly argues "Love is nothing without possession".

I don't really have much to contest. Health is a relative term. I can see where we disagree on this.

Bullshit , Asia is an example of an extremely monogamous society ,far moreso than the two continents mentioned , there is no landmass outside of Africa I am aware of where monogamy (both within and without marraige) is not the standard.

You missed my point.

Asia as a whole is an example of a group of societies that permits cheating for the purpose of sustaining emotionless or sometimess loving marriages. Cheating is accepted for men, and allowed for women

you have no right to be dissappointed at others , you must first turn your perception upon yourself , if the argument that it is not right is not enough to prevent you from continuing in your actions then the knowledge that more than likely this female will go on to have children one day , perhaps with this man , should cause you to ponder further. What kind of person are you helping her to become ? What kind of home will that child have ? Normally people are too selfish to ponder the effects of their actions upon greater society as a whole but you have addressed these issues in your post so you should be able to meet this one head-on.

If I read my post, my first impulse would not be to morally judge the actions of the poster.

I am dissapointed that people are so brainwashed. Marriage, although worthy of praise, is very dogmatic. I am tired of arguments in which it is assumed, a priori, that these values you purport are universally correct.

 

[Mandinka2]

Actually thinking about the correct form of torture on my way here I realised something , slow punishment would be much much worse and more just.. since that is the way od heartache. So a much better solution requiring much less planning would be for the cheater to have their spinal cord damaged (bullet to midpoint of spine is pretty sufficient) , that way they will know how helpless their partner felt when they were fucking them over when they can't feel their own bowels when they have to take a shit.
For the willing accomplice , a simple dousing of the head in acid should ensure that the gidnity they robbed the injured party of would also be taken from the- - they would never know the glaze of lust form another person which led to the deceitful encounter in the first place.
Most importantly of all , neither party would no longer appeal to the opposite sex , they would truly have reaped the rich harvest that they willingly sowed.
















































Maybe I'll run fer Pres.............

 

[JerseyDevil]

what goes around comes around

 

[plornive]

Actually thinking about the correct form of torture on my way here I realised something , slow punishment would be much much worse and more just.. since that is the way od heartache. So a much better solution requiring much less planning would be for the cheater to have their spinal cord damaged (bullet to midpoint of spine is pretty sufficient) , that way they will know how helpless their partner felt when they were fucking them over when they can't feel their own bowels when they have to take a shit.
For the willing accomplice , a simple dousing of the head in acid should ensure that the gidnity they robbed the injured party of would also be taken from the- - they would never know the glaze of lust form another person which led to the deceitful encounter in the first place.
Most importantly of all , neither party would no longer appeal to the opposite sex , they would truly have reaped the rich harvest that they willingly sowed.

You seem unable to see things with a different set of values from your own. In this respect, you are hopeless and bitter.

I hope you find peace.

 

[Mandinka2]

You seem unable to see things with a different set of values from your own. In this respect, you are hopeless and bitter.

I hope you find peace.

Eh... on the contrary , I thought of pure justice when I wrote that , don't wish me peace mother fucker because from what u are doing to another innocent brother , ur wishes of peace mean fuck all.

 

[plornive]

Let me ask you something Mandinka........

Are you drunk?

 

[Mandinka2]

I'll ignore the initial rampage about murder that has nothing to do with my point. I'll also ignore the trailer-park reference.

Why for goodness sake , they are not rampages ,they are perfectly logical concepts. There certainly was no hate or even emotion in them , prerequisites for a "rampage"

I guess my statement that "what you don't know won't hurt you" was out of place. I'm sure you are right that it hurts the man when his woman cheats. If a man and a woman both have a very solid relationship, I can see this point.

Ah but there is the point , was the relationship healthy before or after you slept with her ? All couples are exposed to temptation on both sides, by you putting your ass in the way , did you not knowingly contribute to the worsening and hence the paucity of its health?

Contrastingly, if their relationship is not very strong, then it is par for the course.

Explain please , "par for the course" ???? How exactly does that work?

I am dissapointed that people are so brainwashed. Marriage, although worthy of praise, is very dogmatic. I am tired of arguments in which it is assumed, a priori, that these values you purport are universally correct. [/B]

Arguments ? These are not simply arguments , where did u think society originated from , we were not all simply designed to be little Englishmen pal , there were good strong reasons why the set of modern values were instilled in us , and the empirical (that is to say not contrived as per "environment" but natural) evidence that they are righteous is there. Marraige is little more than an expression of a legal right within the boundaries of a "long-term" sexual relationship , I notice you did not bother to deal with the societal aspect of the damage you are doing to your partner .

 

[Mandinka2]

Let me ask you something Mandinka........

Are you drunk?

No and before u ask the next question I wouldnt go home with ur skank ass if I was