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Which split do you like better?

Empty try this

D1 Legs/ shoulder; I alternate one set of military with one of squats for 5 sets for each excercise after warmups. then lunges alternating with upright rows. then SLDL alternating with lateral raises. then finish off with shrugs

D2 rest

D3 Back/ bis

D4 rest

D5 Chest/ tris

D6 rest
D7 rest
 
needsize said:


i was thinking that as well about the nature of the reply, but wasnt going to bother replying. Myt only problem with the DC approach, is that every time I see someone post about it, they are trashing all other routines in favour of theirs. i dont buy that it is the most effective training philosophy out there and that it will work that well for every one. I'm not saying that DC isnt effective, but I'm getting pretty sick of the constant flames towards anything other than that approach


:sigh: Thank you.
 
I would either do one of these two splits.

Chest/front and side delts
Back/rear delts/traps
Off
Legs
Tris/Bis
Off
Off

OR...

Chest
Back/Shoulders
Off
Legs
Tris/Bis
Off
Off

Just my opinion though because personally I dont lift like this.
 
solidj55 said:
I would either do one of these two splits.

Chest/front and side delts
Back/rear delts/traps
Off
Legs
Tris/Bis
Off
Off

OR...

Chest
Back/Shoulders
Off
Legs
Tris/Bis
Off
Off

Just my opinion though because personally I dont lift like this.

Well then how do you lift?:) :D
 
EmptyWallet said:



:sigh: Thank you.

See above. Weider would be proud of you.

If you want to be so stubborn, that's fine. DC talks about this all the time, how no one wants to believe that they're not training the best way/fastest way to gain muscle. And they take it personally. I'm trying to help this board out by abandoning all the fucking bullshit that has plagued the BB world.

Again this goes along what citrus was saying about bfold. Yes the guy is huge. He just pulled over 700 lbs. How about you? How about 500? Less? Much less? Think maybe you'd be a lot bigger if you worked toward that?

I'm willing to bet I'm making close to or better gains than you will and you're gonna be on 500 mg a week while I'm natural. Realize that the LEAST lbs of muscle he has put on a trainee he has personally trained is 47. NEARLY 50 LBS, and he's put as much as EIGHTY POUNDS on some guys. At least one guy was clean, and the others were at doses less than I see some of you guys post up on the anabolic board.

I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
 
EmptyWallet said:


Well then how do you lift?:) :D

I just posted what my new workout will look like and asked for comments, questions, concerns, flames, etc. I could outline my current routine but its more of a "getting by" routine at the moment because of my work schedule and the fact that I am about to get sent to and 8 week academy/boot camp next week where I will not be lifting but maybe once per week. The new workout I posted will be the one I will start once I get back from the academy.
 
needsize said:


i was thinking that as well about the nature of the reply, but wasnt going to bother replying. Myt only problem with the DC approach, is that every time I see someone post about it, they are trashing all other routines in favour of theirs. i dont buy that it is the most effective training philosophy out there and that it will work that well for every one. I'm not saying that DC isnt effective, but I'm getting pretty sick of the constant flames towards anything other than that approach

Exactly. We are not all the same. Some of us have different ratios of type I to type II fibers, some of us have inefficient motor units, etc...basic materials, yes, we're all the same. Should DC's workout work for everyone? Yes. Is it the only one? No. Debasser, there are lifters in here doing WSB and 5x5 that are alot bigger and stronger than you for their size and time training...does that mean they should switch because they're all made out of the same meat you are?

For the most part, I agree with you. I train with a variety of volumes, but know deep down that it's the compound heavy work, and conjugated periodization, that get me where I'm going.

It's the delivery method, not the training regimen, that's turning people off.
 
Debaser said:


See above. Weider would be proud of you.

If you want to be so stubborn, that's fine. DC talks about this all the time, how no one wants to believe that they're not training the best way/fastest way to gain muscle. And they take it personally. I'm trying to help this board out by abandoning all the fucking bullshit that has plagued the BB world.

Again this goes along what citrus was saying about bfold. Yes the guy is huge. He just pulled over 700 lbs. How about you? How about 500? Less? Much less? Think maybe you'd be a lot bigger if you worked toward that?

I'm willing to bet I'm making close to or better gains than you will and you're gonna be on 500 mg a week while I'm natural. Realize that the LEAST lbs of muscle he has put on a trainee he has personally trained is 47. NEARLY 50 LBS, and he's put as much as EIGHTY POUNDS on some guys. At least one guy was clean, and the others were at doses less than I see some of you guys post up on the anabolic board.

I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.


I do not take it personal. Its the way you stated it. If you had simply said, Hey, EW, ever give Dogcrapp a try? Or ever try out some of DC's methods? I would have talked about it with you to know end man. I'm NOT being stubborn. Simply reacting to the ignorance you displayed above, and how you continue to display it through the thread. Does it get to you that much when someone disagrees with you that you have to resort to trying to insult me? How old are? Still a teenager or first couple of years in college? Please, learn how to communicate with people. Next thing you know your going to be attacking my spelling. Some of you guys posting up on the anabolic board.....Deb, the most I've ever taken of anything at one time was 500mgs. I'm flowed back and forth between weights because of life's nice little curve balls. But its ok, there's more to it than lifting sometimes. I'll get it right one day because I don't quit. If I tried a complete DC training method this summer again, and it worked wonderfully, I'd fully expect you to say I told you so, or something similiar because you seem like that kind of person. And you know what, thats ok, it doesnt really get to me. How many long drawn out threads have to seen me type to you responded to how you replied to me in the beginning? This is the first one. We're all a family here on this board. We pretty much keep it seperate between this board and the anabolic board. Two different groups here. I float over to the other from time to time, like this weekend. Its no big deal. As for you putting on as much mass or more than me in the same amount of time, does it really matter to you that much? I would suggest you put on a jacket or sweater of some sort, as to maybe provide some thicker skin. I was thinking about even replying, but I guess I got drawn into it against my better judgement. Point is, if you hadn't spit out what you did earlier, at the top, then we would have never gotten this far and probably both you and I would have learned quite a bit. You know what, forget it, I doubt you'll even get what I'm trying to say anyway. Goodnight.
 
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Debaser said:


NEARLY 50 LBS, and he's put as much as EIGHTY POUNDS on some guys. At least one guy was clean, and the others were at doses less than I see some of you guys post up on the anabolic board.

I am so proud of him, does he pay you to kiss his ass like this? Myself I have gone from 140lbs to 235lbs with my training methods, that is a gain of 95lbs, and I'm still growing like a weed. But even though my 95lbs is more than his 80, somehow my routine is garbage and I should follow his approach if I want to grow?
 
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