Whats the hurry?

[KratosGOW]

Sorry bro, wasn't referring to anybody specific, or trying to generalize anybody on the forum. In fact, I wasn't referring just to AAS use. You can see it everywhere in the world. Everyone's looking for the quickest way or the easiest way, not the right way.

No problem man.
Everybody has his opinion anyway we're all humans.

 

[novicefit]

IMO it’s the internet, not all because of the internet but a lot. Think about how we used to order stuff back in the day. You would fill out a form in a catalog, send a check and wait like 2 months for your little orphan annie decoder pin lol…..Now if we can’t find something that we want we simple google it and BAM ordered, paid with CC, delivered, all in a matter of days.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's time to admit that bodybuilding has been broken up into 2 camps. One is the guy who wants to challenge himself to get bigger, stronger and more confident. Learn discipline and will power. Learn how his body reacts and see the progress, enjoy the process and hold onto it for life so he can look and feel better while others get weaker and older.

The other camp...

is the the kid who watched Jersey Shore and sees that you can get a little more buffed quickly if you take steroids, do the minimal amount of work and fuck it if he loses it because next year is a million years away. They also don't care if they hurt themselves because they're immortal. Getting sick is something that happens to old people.

And that's just the way it is. You can't convince someone from the second camp to join the first. But maybe they'll get bitten by the bug and learn to love it. But still, it's much harder to start at square one once you've cheated out of the gate -- psychologically...and physically.

 

[-SD-]

Ok screw it Im 36 and tired of looking at the Beast and vials of Cyp in my closet for the last 18 months, gonna hit a cycle with them just for you Radar

 

[KratosGOW]

I totally agree your view NM but only if you believe "life is good"---
Damn,seems like we live forever right?
From what some guys are saying i should think for sure that NOT using steroids
you can have a great life healty life etc...and hope to reach your goals anyway.
As an example i had a friend who was my brother's best friend,he had bone cancre at age 19(died at 21)
he never smoked,never seen him drunk,never had a health problem and this poor boy,a wonderful soul just died in PAIN.
I mean be more realistic you guys ...it can happen to all of us we are NOTHING.
I could respect the rules and be hitten by a f.ing drunk idiot with his car and BOOM adios.
Sacrifice is the key to be happy,u can't just say "ok i will do this" and not sacrifice a shit.
It's the sad truth and i could lie myself that following the rules i will be fine...but sadly it's never like this.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

It's ironic this thread has come out...I've been considering running my first cycle for some time now. I'm 23, 6ft1 and around 87kg. I've been lifting solid for around 16months, and I need some inspiration and motivation. Now I'm happy to train hard and hit up the diet, but my feelings are why wait 4-8 years to get the body I want now. I'm not saying I'm gonna start pinning myself, I would actually run an oral cycle to see how I go...but I see kids down my gym 2-3 years younger than me on stuff like no ones business...so what do I do?

I wanna compete aswell next year, and am very aware others will have been doing something, probably alot more than I will have done.

So what's the right thing to do?!

 

[Arabian]

It's time to admit that bodybuilding has been broken up into 2 camps. One is the guy who wants to challenge himself to get bigger, stronger and more confident. Learn discipline and will power. Learn how his body reacts and see the progress, enjoy the process and hold onto it for life so he can look and feel better while others get weaker and older.

The other camp...

is the the kid who watched Jersey Shore and sees that you can get a little more buffed quickly if you take steroids, do the minimal amount of work and fuck it if he loses it because next year is a million years away. They also don't care if they hurt themselves because they're immortal. Getting sick is something that happens to old people.

And that's just the way it is. You can't convince someone from the second camp to join the first. But maybe they'll get bitten by the bug and learn to love it. But still, it's much harder to start at square one once you've cheated out of the gate -- psychologically...and physically.

Exactly, well put Nelson!!!!

 

[stevesmi]

...I've been considering running my first cycle for some time now. I'm 23, 6ft1 and around 87kg. I've been lifting solid for around 16months, and I need some inspiration and motivation. Now I'm happy to train hard and hit up the diet, but my feelings are why wait 4-8 years to get the body I want now.

16 months of lifting is nothing.. you have no idea your best workout strategy yet or your best splits, or how your body reacts to different foods. its just not long enough to gain experience.

there are countless threads on here of guys complaining that they aren't getting any results on roids, and they all have 1 thing in common.. they have little experience in the weight room. the bottom line is if you cannot get good results without roids, then don't expect to get good results on roids or after roids.

it took me 14 years of lifting to find myself to excell at this sport... how and when to eat, how and when to drink.. supplements that work and when to take, how to set up workout splits.. there is so much more that goes into this sport. only then did i decide to juice.

 

[CSB]

guys its human nature , everything these days is instant , from fast foods to fast instant anything, why would one want to wait 10 years and build a foundation when in 6 months its yours ? the temptation is great and will 90% of the time override common sense, most of us agreeing now here are in our 30's not ? hindsight is a powerful tool but one not yet available to a 20yr old , i started in my teens before internet and the world of knowledge now available at your fingertips, and to be honest can never really come off again and sustain my gains etc.

even now i have to restrain myself from doing mammoth cycles with every exotic i can lay my hands on, so i feel for the young ones where self control is but a distant virtue

 

[FT10]

I agree with Radar. Young, wannabe juicers don't realize that if you haven't hit your genetic potential yet through proper diet/training/rest/supplementation, its because fundamentally, you haven't grasped these notions properly. Steroids aren't magic. If you don't know how to eat or train, steroids won't help you make much progress. Then, stupid kids think they have to use more juice when they aren't getting results, when they really just have to tweak their diets and training. They overdose, or don't come off and end up screwing up their health, and end up giving steroids and those who use them a bad name. All this because they're unwilling to do things properly. They put out excuses like "I wanna get there faster" or, "Why can't I have now what I will have then?", but in the end, I think its because they are afraid of hard work. Lets face it, its retardedly hard to be big and shredded. That's what makes bodybuilding fun! If it were as easy as pinning yourself in the ass twice a week or popping 2-3 pills a day, it wouldn't be worth doing. In the end, I think those young "first-cyclers" with no foundation or knowledge are just kidding themselves, and selling themselves short...