What will happen after Israel bombs Iran?

[AristotleBC]

the russians arent willing to go to war - for them its about commerce. theyll be bought (or squeezed) by zionist allies and theyre out of the picture

china is still in "build my base" mode, and isnt going to throw its weight behind iran. they dont need to. they have a firecracker economy, a shitload of people, and other sources of oil. for them, its a waiting game. not time to make a move yet.

i dont think that this will go to war, even after israel bombs iranian sites, or sends commandos into unbombable areas. israel is holding a nuclear trump, and theres too much for iran to lose - and i doubt even the mullahs are stupid enough to have parts of their country glowing with nuclear ash to play the world sympathy card - even were the jews dumb enough to give them the opening.

so, i predict stalemate. its too early in the game. the iranians will creep forward with their nuclear ambitions until world opinion turns fast enough to shut down the israelis and the yanks (thatll be interesting) while shouting that its peaceful, while the israelis will beat their drums to keep them at bay, since theyre fighting a rearguard action - the iranians will go nuclear - its just a question of when, and how - and itll probably be tied to when the two biggest new economies in the world - india and china - hit critical mass and start being independent. in that case, the string pullers in the states and israel better not misstep, or theyll be marginalised

One thing is almost for certain, no matter what happens, we can count on you to piss and moan about US involvement in it

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

If youve read my posts in the past regarding Iran you will see that I am well aware of the pro-western undercurrent that runs throughout the younger population. Unfortunately, at this moment in time, the younger population isnt in control of the country.

You honestly dont see any chance that this could start a preverbial shit storm in the area that affects nations outside of Iran and Israel?

Have you ever heard of Victor Hanson? If you haven't, you should check out his writings. I've never read anyone who writes with such clarity about the region.

In 1980, Israel bombed Iraq without incident. The mighty USSR, which as you know had been selling weapons to Iraq and many others in the region, did nothing.

Russia is not the USSR. It is a backward country continually teetering between oligarchy and collapse. They can't even control Chechnya and for some time were paying their lower enlisted soldiers in sausages. For real, sausages.

Iran's military cannot deploy, and even if they tried, they would be obliterated by Israel. Iran's military would have to have some of the lowest morale you can find - how hard do you fight for a government that represses you and that you do not believe in?

Who would join Iran? Syria? We know how well they fought against Israel last time they tried....I think they lost 82 planes to 0 lost for Israel. Egypt? Never. Egypt needs US aid money more than Israel. Even if Egypt were to join Iran, the last time Egypt fought Israel, only the US exerting political stopped Israel from taking Cairo.

Despite all the talk, no middle eastern muslim country wants war with Israel anymore. Their totalitarian leaders have realized that Israel is more useful to blame for why their country sucks, rather than dealing with their own dispossed marching on the capital.

 

[75th]

One thing is almost for certain, no matter what happens, we can count on you to piss and moan about US involvement in it

 

[75th]

Have you ever heard of Victor Hanson? If you haven't, you should check out his writings. I've never read anyone who writes with such clarity about the region.

In 1980, Israel bombed Iraq without incident. The mighty USSR, which as you know had been selling weapons to Iraq and many others in the region, did nothing.

Russia is not the USSR. It is a backward country continually teetering between oligarchy and collapse. They can't even control Chechnya and for some time were paying their lower enlisted soldiers in sausages. For real, sausages.

Iran's military cannot deploy, and even if they tried, they would be obliterated by Israel. Iran's military would have to have some of the lowest morale you can find - how hard do you fight for a government that represses you and that you do not believe in?

Who would join Iran? Syria? We know how well they fought against Israel last time they tried....I think they lost 82 planes to 0 lost for Israel. Egypt? Never. Egypt needs US aid money more than Israel. Even if Egypt were to join Iran, the last time Egypt fought Israel, only the US exerting political stopped Israel from taking Cairo.

Despite all the talk, no middle eastern muslim country wants war with Israel anymore. Their totalitarian leaders have realized that Israel is more useful to blame for why their country sucks, rather than dealing with their own dispossed marching on the capital.

Havent read any of his writings. Ill try to track some down this evening.

 

[satchboogie]

ok lets get some facts straight..

IRAN is a bunch of faggot pussies with absolutely zero army.. their chances of doin any damage to israel in case of war are extremely unlikely.. almost like me gettin preganant.

the israeli army is, arguably, the most intelliegent in the world.
if israeli had the number of soldiers that the u.s does, it would easily be the strongest army in the world.. in fact, israel helps the u.s with military intelligence.. keep in mind for 58 years israel has been on the defensive.. every day!!!!!!!

but IRAN isnt alone../
they will be joined by syria and lebanon.. which are pussy countries too with zero army. i doubt egypt will join... and heavily doubt jordan will join... saudi arabia may join but unlikely. china wont do shit... neither will russia.

what WILL happen though if any muslim country attempts to attack israel is a collaboration from the u.s, u.k, and turkey. and quite frankly, the muslim fucknuts stand zero chance.

they're suicidal though.. and have no value for life.. which makes them so much more dangerous.. like the 'kamikazees'....

the only threat from the pussy arab countries is nuclear bombs... but israeli radars and planes are working 24/7... the country is constantly on the defensive.. crazy shit.

either way, IRAN can suck a big fat dick. . fuckin punk ass muslim extremist bitches!
waste of earth space if you ask me!

 

[redguru]

You're not that well informed on this. When Israel bombs Iran, which they will, NOTHING will happen. Here's why:

Iranians are not "tough". They are a population of younger people (over 50% under age 30) which actually likes the US and is quite pro Western. These people will not fight even for a day in order to preserve a hard line Islamic fundamentalist government.

China is not even remotely allied with Iran. In fact, Israel and China are closely allied trading partners. China would never in a trillion years be drawn into this conflict, but if it were to proceed past a trillion years, they'd side with their valued trading partner. Chinese like Israelis, in fact many Chinese businesspeople refer to themselves as "the Jews of Asia" because of their work habits.

The US is not allied with Israel becuase of the Jewish lobby. The US is allied with Israel because it is the only westernized democracy in a land of totalitarian regimes that allow no human rights whatsoever. Israel has shared values with the US, and Israel, oddly, treats its Muslim population better than any Muslim-ruled country. Isn't it funny that Israel has been led by Netanyahu, Sharon, Rabin etc...elected leaders...while their neighbors are led by Assad, Assad Jr., Hosni Mubarak etc and nothing ever changes in the Muslim countries? Israel > any muslim country by about 1000 light years.

Russia will do what it did when we severed its relationship with Saddam Hussein: nothing. They are a second world country with a third rate military and enough internal problems to deal with.

Israel will bomb Iran and Iran will back down. In the culture of the Middle East, might makes right. Israel is militarily far superior to any nation in the region.

Did you know about the President of Iran and the 12th Imam? You should look into that and see how crazy these people are.

I agree, I see a no-win situation for Iran. I cannot understand why they would posture like they do, it's insanity on a national scale. The only major Muslim military players in the region would be Pakistan and the Turks. The Turks aren't going to do anything that would jeopardize their economy and Musharref is playing ball with us to stay in power.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Havent read any of his writings. Ill try to track some down this evening.

start here www.victorhanson.com

He has a book out called "between war and peace". awesome.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Hopefully Iran and Isreal will annihalate each other and we dont have to hear a single whining word from either of of them ever again.

Isreal has brought us nothing but problems.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I agree, I see a no-win situation for Iran. I cannot understand why they would posture like they do, it's insanity on a national scale. The only major Muslim military players in the region would be Pakistan and the Turks. The Turks aren't going to do anything that would jeopardize their economy and Musharref is playing ball with us to stay in power.

The Turks participate in military exercises with Israel. It is on the down low. Musharraf has publicly stated that "he has no idea why his country is an enemy of Israel".

Here is some info about the President of Iran

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_10945.shtml Excerpt as follows:

a keynote speech on Wednesday to senior clerics, Ahmadinejad spoke of his strong belief in the second coming of Shi'ite Muslims' "hidden" 12th Imam.

According to Shi'ite Muslim teaching, Abul-Qassem Mohammad, the 12th leader whom Shi'ites consider descended from the Prophet Mohammed, disappeared in 941 but will return at the end of time to lead an era of Islamic justice.

"Our revolution's main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi," Ahmadinejad said in the speech to Friday Prayers leaders from across the country.

"Therefore, Iran should become a powerful, developed and model Islamic society."

"Today, we should define our economic, cultural and political policies based on the policy of Imam Mahdi's return. We should avoid copying the West's policies and systems," he added, newspapers and local news agencies reported.

Some more:

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/11/184cb9fb-887c-4696-8f54-0799df747a4a.html


This guy is trying to implement policy based on beliefs that are too primitive for the year 1500 and he is their President? The fact that the UN gives this assnozzle an audience is further testimony to their uselessness. That, though is well established. Only dictators and European leaders believe in the UN.

One can only hope that Israel destroys Iran's nuclear capacity, and while they are at it, Teheran as well.

 

[satchboogie]

Hopefully Iran and Isreal will annihalate each other and we dont have to hear a single whining word from either of of them ever again.

Isreal has brought us nothing but problems.

youve offically been RED K'd!