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What do you think of drinking egg whites?

Ghede said:
Sorry y'all: pasturized or ultra pasturized refer only to the Flash Process in terms of killing on-board bio hazards in the eggwhites, not the eggwhites inherant ability to 'clarify' the medium they pass through. Unless you denature that albumin (cook it) its gonna suck up many of the goodies that it passes over, its part of the wonder and usefullness of eggwhites. We just dont want that in our digestive tract as the modus du jour.

Here is a better overall question: WHY would you WANT to chug eggbeaters?!?! I would rather suck a bulldogs nose til his ass burps like tupperware! COOK THEM!!! make an omlette! a frittata! wouldnt you rather EAT than chug them?!

Granted, denaturing the proteins by cooking them makes them more bio-available, exactly what we DONT want in terms of 'dieting', we dont want 'high-quality' or super high bio availability, we want SLOOOOOW digesting proteins, LOW quality by definition of absorbtion is what ya want.

THAT having been said, you should be consuming some fats and carbs with your proteins regardless, they work together in terms or attenuating absorbtion in our favor: the proteins and fats lower glycemic load/index of ALL carbs, the carbs and fats slow the digestion of proteins which is the grail in this case.

My take is the process of chugging eggwhites/eggbeaters is about as palatable as doing shots of snot, so I dont do it for that reason alone.

As far as eggwhites: buy em wholesale, look in the yellow pages for catering/bakery supply and tell them you are an at-home caterer so you can buy them wholesale. They come in cases of 4-6 half gallons, and come frozen and are the very VERY cheapest form of protein you can buy. period.

Nice explanation.....will try to reference it. I myself would never chug them alone. Your description fits them well.:) Other protein, fats and carbs are always taken with them.
 
Ok explaination.

So it does not matter if the egg whites are "flash cooked" or not... they still will "gather goodies" out of our GI tract.
- do you have studies that show this? And at what amounts, ect?

I will never chug "eggbeaters" again, those are too thick.

Snot consistancy, sure... easy of use... completely. Chug 1 cup. EW eat cup of oats and 1 banana and i'm good to go in the morning for meal #1.

Unless I see some evidence of this... it's just too easy for me not to keep chugging them uncooked.

The body is such a resiliant organism as well... and i'm sure I won't be eating this way forever. If I do... hopefully I'll have a chef someday that will cook for me, so i won't have to chug any longer and sip protein shakes by the pool. :)
 
to avoid gagging...

hold breath, breath through mouth when not chugging eat something immediately after and one never tastes the "snot."

:p
 
Ghede said:
Sorry y'all: pasturized or ultra pasturized refer only to the Flash Process in terms of killing on-board bio hazards in the eggwhites, not the eggwhites inherant ability to 'clarify' the medium they pass through. Unless you denature that albumin (cook it) its gonna suck up many of the goodies that it passes over, its part of the wonder and usefullness of eggwhites. We just dont want that in our digestive tract as the modus du jour.

Here is a better overall question: WHY would you WANT to chug eggbeaters?!?! I would rather suck a bulldogs nose til his ass burps like tupperware! COOK THEM!!! make an omlette! a frittata! wouldnt you rather EAT than chug them?!

Granted, denaturing the proteins by cooking them makes them more bio-available, exactly what we DONT want in terms of 'dieting', we dont want 'high-quality' or super high bio availability, we want SLOOOOOW digesting proteins, LOW quality by definition of absorbtion is what ya want.

THAT having been said, you should be consuming some fats and carbs with your proteins regardless, they work together in terms or attenuating absorbtion in our favor: the proteins and fats lower glycemic load/index of ALL carbs, the carbs and fats slow the digestion of proteins which is the grail in this case.

My take is the process of chugging eggwhites/eggbeaters is about as palatable as doing shots of snot, so I dont do it for that reason alone.

As far as eggwhites: buy em wholesale, look in the yellow pages for catering/bakery supply and tell them you are an at-home caterer so you can buy them wholesale. They come in cases of 4-6 half gallons, and come frozen and are the very VERY cheapest form of protein you can buy. period.


This is interesting because the the white of an egg contains the embryo and its initial function is to absorb all the nutrients/minerals/vits contained in the yolk.
 
sgtslaughter said:
Ok explaination.

So it does not matter if the egg whites are "flash cooked" or not... they still will "gather goodies" out of our GI tract.
- do you have studies that show this? And at what amounts, ect?

I will never chug "eggbeaters" again, those are too thick.

Snot consistancy, sure... easy of use... completely. Chug 1 cup. EW eat cup of oats and 1 banana and i'm good to go in the morning for meal #1.

Unless I see some evidence of this... it's just too easy for me not to keep chugging them uncooked.

The body is such a resiliant organism as well... and i'm sure I won't be eating this way forever. If I do... hopefully I'll have a chef someday that will cook for me, so i won't have to chug any longer and sip protein shakes by the pool. :)


The two studies i have regarding the Avidin raping the Biotin out of the tract are completely null and void of the Flora grabing effects, but upon rereading them I did happen upon a couple of good barometers for making a guessagnosis of Biotin deficiency: hair thickness and turgidity. If your hair starts to feel like straw and is splitting or cracking way more easily than usualy, then you might just have found the culprit.

Pasturizing eggwhites to 134f for about three minutes is the process used to eliminate Salm. and the vague possiblility of Clos.Prfgns. in your egg whites. I can tell you, and I am sure you already know this, that if you are going to go for the super high bioavailability of liquid (NOT RAW) eggwhites, that you should be sure to include some carbs and some fats in their consumption, they are way to easy to assimilate and your body simply cant utilize a whole assload of protein in very short window. Slow down the absorbtion rate.. er.. um... wouldnt COOKING them slow it down? yes. a lot. then you could avoid at least some of the carbs and fats in the process...

I guess its more about my personal preferences than not: I think they are mighty harsh things to consume. I would rather EAT than drink my food. I like to chew, its more satisfying. On the perceived Betaine bonanza from drinking liquid eggwhites, there really isnt all that much to shake a stick at, I would rather get my betaine from my MRP/Protein supplement of choice ISO AGB. The glut of choline in eggwhites sounds interesting, but if you have a well rounded protein scheme through your week, you dont need to fret Aminos OR BCAAs, a huge waste of money from my perspective.

I will hunt for some hard paper on the nasties of eggwhite consumption, and you are absolutely right: until you read otherwise, from MULTIPLE sources, just do what do and do what you have been getting good results from.

Oh, and be sure to get that chef... and the pool.

:artist:
 
:D Great reply. Thanks for getting back to me and I look forward to the hard paper whenever you get around to finding it.

P.S. I cooked my eggs this morning because it's a weekend and I have time :p

P.P.S. Taking chef applications as well as concrete/pool donations with supplies.
 
Ghede said:
I will hunt for some hard paper on the nasties of eggwhite consumption, and you are absolutely right: until you read otherwise, from MULTIPLE sources, just do what do and do what you have been getting good results from.

Any updates?

:coffee:
 
sgtslaughter said:
Any updates?

:coffee:

Oh my. Bro, i often work 100+ hours a week AND train AND attempt to sleep.. If its not easy to find, I will still find it but holding one's breath for me to get around to it might be problematic...

:D


Oh, and share some of that :coffee:, would ya?

:artist:
 
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