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Shinobi said:
If you read the nutrition facts on the weetabix box it has sugar on it and automatically is not a complex carb anymore


The presence of simple sugars doesnt magicly destroy the complex nature.

RedGuru: Kashi Go Lean rocks. As does Heart to Heart and all the Puffins (Peanut Butter Puffins are damn near exactly like capn crunch, YUM, and the cin. puffins ROCK!)

AllBran Bran Buds is about as close to heaven as you can get within cereal land.

I do a mixture of large flake oatmeal and one of the above mixed with one scoop MMilk and One big scoop ISO AGB at least twice a day. Yum.
 
Ghede said:
The presence of simple sugars doesnt magicly destroy the complex nature.

But you are going to have an insulin spike so whats the point of having a complex carb with sugar on it?!?! Its the same as eating brown rice with barbecue sauce.
 
Shinobi said:
But you are going to have an insulin spike so whats the point of having a complex carb with sugar on it?!?! Its the same as eating brown rice with barbecue sauce.

I didnt say it was smart OR a good idea to mix them.... But the complex carbs are still complex carbs even if you bury them in 4kg of pure glucose.

PS: if you are partitioning your carbs with Glucorell-R, like you should, you wouldnt be all that concerned with spikes.... ;)


Oh, and btw: the GI of any High GI carb is INSTANTLY lowered by the presence of long chain sugars, fats, fiber and/or protein. Add some fat and pro to your mixture of carbs and the rating drops like a rock.
 
Ghede said:
RedGuru: Kashi Go Lean rocks. As does Heart to Heart and all the Puffins (Peanut Butter Puffins are damn near exactly like capn crunch, YUM, and the cin. puffins ROCK!)

Dam right! I eat them daily.
 
Ghede said:
I didnt say it was smart OR a good idea to mix them....
I didnt say you said it

Ghede said:
Oh, and btw: the GI of any High GI carb is INSTANTLY lowered by the presence of long chain sugars, fats, fiber and/or protein. Add some fat and pro to your mixture of carbs and the rating drops like a rock.

fats and carbs its a no no for me
 
Shinobi said:
I didnt say you said it



fats and carbs its a no no for me


Ok. If you are in fact eating complex carbs, regardless of how low their Glycemic Index is, you WILL lower the Glycemic Load AND Index by adding smart fats to EVERY time you consume carbs. Thats not opinion. It's science.

Now, if you are in a hurry to facilitate uptake for the purposes of supra-maximal glycogen replenishment due to the fact that you are an ultra-endurance athlete, then by all means: DO NOT consume anything that will get in the way of restoring those needed glycostores as fast as possible. Glycogen replenishment within an appropriate window to both exercise duration and intensity for the endurance effort of more than 2 hours of constant activity is a MUST!

Now, under the chance that you are a strength athlete and/or are in this game to lose fat as your primary focus/concern, then you should be consuming fats and proteins with your carbs. Always. yes, even post workout. Smart fats + smart carbs + protein = Slowed absorbtion, which is what you want.

Nutrient partitioning is horsehockey. If your stance is otherwise show me paper to prove it and i will sit down and eat the paper... without fats of course...

;)
 
Ghede said:
Ok. If you are in fact eating complex carbs, regardless of how low their Glycemic Index is, you WILL lower the Glycemic Load AND Index by adding smart fats to EVERY time you consume carbs. Thats not opinion. It's science.

I agree its science but in practise I think thats vary from person to person. I already tried to mix protein, complex carbs and healthy fats and didnt get good results as I do with protein + carb only.
 
Shinobi said:
I agree its science but in practise I think thats vary from person to person. I already tried to mix protein, complex carbs and healthy fats and didnt get good results as I do with protein + carb only.


Yah mon, go with what works, for sure.
 
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