Walmart looting = Reparations for Blacks

[spongebob]

hmmm ?


you seem to have exempt the Police from not so favorable actions....but the same has not been extended to Black citizens. Why is it ok for the police to go insance and not the people of color. Do the Blacks not have families to care for too ?

Maybe they should have followed the person or persons that "looted" the TV. Just so we can get a better understanding on how the story plays out. Not l ike they had any power....maybe, just maybe it can be used to barter or trade later. But something like this is never considered..especially even after ATMs do not work and one can not use a credit card for at least 100 miles away according to the news.

Those people are not just dealing with hunger and dehyradration....but the fact that people are actually dying in front of them as a result of being ignored. This is 3rd World stuff and not something they are prepared for. I live in NY. After 9/11 we have things are not the same. It bothers me to see military personnel walking in the trains with dogs and assault rifles. Not the best way to start a day nor something i would think i would see.

I have lived in poor communities (Philadelphia, Palo Alto, St Louis, Barbados) ...and I will tell you the mindset is not like that in other communities. If i had to compare...i would say it was as if they were in jail. I sensed a feeling of being held captive, like not being able to go anywhere so they will make t he best of their envirnoment. In many cases...all they knew where the fe block radius from their homes.

It's sad that it took possibly thousands to die for someone to finally pay attention to the conditions in this area.

it saddens me further to read some of the threads as if these people are subhuman or even refugees. No one can say what drives people to do what they do. I think that is the main problem. Everyone is looking to put a label on something rather than treating it as a unique issue.

well first off i dont consider the actions by the police(leaving or committing suicide) unfavorable, so no, i havent given them exemption. they dont need it.

secondly, if your comparring the actions of the police to people looting tvs, jewelery, etc. i disagree. i would not compare the two at all.

if a looter wants food, medicine, water, anythiong to do with a baby or any type of clothing then that is fine with me. and i will say this, from the start ive said, outside of EF, that if i were in charge i would let them take whatever they want. as long as its not from someones home with that person there. looting would have been the least of my worries after seeing the complete destructiona nd dispair on tv.

as far as using it to barter, sorry i dont buy it. is it possible some were thinking that, i guess. but for the most part i dont buy it.

do i think that people can and have went nuts in this situation, ofcourse. but dont tell me that is what drove the looters to take tvs and etc.

as far as thousands dieing in order for people to start noticing the conditions. sorry, but that wont even last a year. it needs to be understood that you should never ever rely on the govt to do a damn thing for you. you will only be disappointed. it will not change a thing, never has and never will.

and i will add that the looting and other crimianl activity was only a small percentage of people i think. but a small group gets all the attention and makes the news.

 

[Razorguns]

the police left because they too have families to take care of, they were being shot at and outmanned and outgunned, they left because shit like this can drive a person insane. theyve already had several suicides now by police officers.

Yep.

Your house has been destroyed. Your agency is in awry. Your family is out of the city, or lost or dead. People already hate you. You are in the line of fire everywhere u go. You're making a lousy $40k/year. You're going to have to move out of the city and get a new job anyways wherever you relocate to.

Fuck the job. Family's more important.

 

[2ez]

well first off i dont consider the actions by the police(leaving or committing suicide) unfavorable, so no, i havent given them exemption. they dont need it.

secondly, if your comparring the actions of the police to people looting tvs, jewelery, etc. i disagree. i would not compare the two at all.

if a looter wants food, medicine, water, anythiong to do with a baby or any type of clothing then that is fine with me. and i will say this, from the start ive said, outside of EF, that if i were in charge i would let them take whatever they want. as long as its not from someones home with that person there. looting would have been the least of my worries after seeing the complete destructiona nd dispair on tv.

as far as using it to barter, sorry i dont buy it. is it possible some were thinking that, i guess. but for the most part i dont buy it.

do i think that people can and have went nuts in this situation, ofcourse. but dont tell me that is what drove the looters to take tvs and etc.

as far as thousands dieing in order for people to start noticing the conditions. sorry, but that wont even last a year. it needs to be understood that you should never ever rely on the govt to do a damn thing for you. you will only be disappointed. it will not change a thing, never has and never will.

and i will add that the looting and other crimianl activity was only a small percentage of people i think. but a small group gets all the attention and makes the news.

You say that one should never rely on the Govt, to do anything, but are you saying that the Govt should have not fund the Levee project ?


with respect to the police, they not only left, but some even participated in looting and according to the news....guns were fired. some are saying that for the money they make and the current events, that they are justified to leave, because family is first.....but what are your thoughts on that young soldier who just married, yet was sent over to Iraq to fight. He makes even less money than the NO police and he too has a family. Should he too, just up and leave or honor the committment he made to protect and serve this country.

 

[Roid Pimp]

Not everyone is capable of handling that level of Stress for that amount of time.
History shows a small percentage will break down after a while, and it's better IMO if they are allowed to leave the situation vs adding negatively to it.
No disgrace in that vs taking ones life .

Makes you aware of just how strong the ones that do stay and cope indeed are.

 

[Hengst]

Oh, hell..... those New Orleans cops that deserted were probably affirmative action hires and incompetent anyway.

 

[2ez]

Oh, hell..... those New Orleans cops that deserted were probably affirmative action hires and incompetent anyway.

Affirmative Action ?


So they were white police officers that left ?


I am asking this since 90% of the population were black...making caucasians the minority group.


Many are talking about the looting.......what about the hotels in the surrounding areas doubling the cost to get a room ?

 

[manny78]

Yep.

Your house has been destroyed. Your agency is in awry. Your family is out of the city, or lost or dead. People already hate you. You are in the line of fire everywhere u go. You're making a lousy $40k/year. You're going to have to move out of the city and get a new job anyways wherever you relocate to.

Fuck the job. Family's more important.

I dont blame the cops for leaving because if you're outgunned, you better save your butt and leave. In this case, the army/national guard/state troopers, name them weren't prepared or given notice on time. Martial law is also mandatory in such scenarios. This is the US for God's sake, not Haiti or some third world country were chaos is the flavor of the month.

 

[75th]

Affirmative Action ?


So they were white police officers that left ?


I am asking this since 90% of the population were black...making caucasians the minority group.


Many are talking about the looting.......what about the hotels in the surrounding areas doubling the cost to get a room ?

Even in a "minority majority," caucasions are never the minority in the U.S.

 

[spongebob]

You say that one should never rely on the Govt, to do anything, but are you saying that the Govt should have not fund the Levee project ?


with respect to the police, they not only left, but some even participated in looting and according to the news....guns were fired. some are saying that for the money they make and the current events, that they are justified to leave, because family is first.....but what are your thoughts on that young soldier who just married, yet was sent over to Iraq to fight. He makes even less money than the NO police and he too has a family. Should he too, just up and leave or honor the committment he made to protect and serve this country.

you seem to intertwine a lot of things that im not intending you to.

what im saying is very simple, if you rely on the govt to help you in situations, you might be disappointed.

i dont know who should have rebuilt those levees, but someone should have. and it just proves my point, the govt failed and therefore disappointed alot of people.

these two statements can be made independently of each other.

like i said i dont condone looting that doesnt involve food, water, baby items, clothing, medicine etc. so if a cop looted items other than that, then i look at him as a criminal too, although at this point like i said, that would be the least of my worries. extremely small percentage. not high on the priorty list.

your comparrison between the soldier and the police sticking to commitments doesnt work imo. a soldier is highly trained for war, a police officer is not highly trained for a hurricane disaster. our soldiers are not highly disadvantaged. the NO police were outmanned and outgunned. i just dont compare the two but good question.

 

[eat big]

This thread is just straigh ignant dawg.