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Waking up with NUMB ARMS!

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SgtSlaughter

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I remember reading a thread about it before and alot of us were trying to figure out why the hell it happens to some of us.

I was at the M.D. office today and asked my primary care doc...

I'll try to put it together as best I remember it:

When sleeping on one's belly and having one or both arms rotated in a way that the arm is either streched out or up near one's head... there is an "artery" (some sort of blood pumping mechanism) that is just below our clavial/collar bone and it's flow is impeded when you sleep in such a manner.... ect.

So he goes "if you lost about 5 pound of muscle from your chest it might not happen" LOL!!! My chest is probably 1/4 the size of most of you beasts! (193lbs at the docs today 6 foot)

So we're shit outa luck unless u sleep on your back... then you should be greatful.

I asked him if it would then impeed muscle recover due to the lack of blood/oxygen being supplied to the extremity... he said "no" ... lol, which doesn't make sense to me... but sure, I'm going to try to roll up a towel and sleep with that transversing me in a way that will ... i dunno, fuckin' shit.... going to try to figure out something so I don't wake up with play-doh arms, shits annoying.

Not an AAS post... but this topic has been brought up here a few times, I hope to provide some kind of answer to people wondering..

Especially sense some people thought it was the certain type of AAS they were using that caused it (no I'm not "On" ... haven't gone that route yet).
 
I have it bad too...I sleep on my side with one of those long body pillows propping me up. And now I sleep like a baby, where as before I would wake up and have to use one arm to lift and move the dead one around.
 
sgtslaughter said:
I remember reading a thread about it before and alot of us were trying to figure out why the hell it happens to some of us.

I was at the M.D. office today and asked my primary care doc...

I'll try to put it together as best I remember it:

When sleeping on one's belly and having one or both arms rotated in a way that the arm is either streched out or up near one's head... there is an "artery" (some sort of blood pumping mechanism) that is just below our clavial/collar bone and it's flow is impeded when you sleep in such a manner.... ect.

So he goes "if you lost about 5 pound of muscle from your chest it might not happen" LOL!!! My chest is probably 1/4 the size of most of you beasts! (193lbs at the docs today 6 foot)

So we're shit outa luck unless u sleep on your back... then you should be greatful.

I asked him if it would then impeed muscle recover due to the lack of blood/oxygen being supplied to the extremity... he said "no" ... lol, which doesn't make sense to me... but sure, I'm going to try to roll up a towel and sleep with that transversing me in a way that will ... i dunno, fuckin' shit.... going to try to figure out something so I don't wake up with play-doh arms, shits annoying.

Not an AAS post... but this topic has been brought up here a few times, I hope to provide some kind of answer to people wondering..

Especially sense some people thought it was the certain type of AAS they were using that caused it (no I'm not "On" ... haven't gone that route yet).
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While I'm all natural :qt: on occasion while sleeping on my belly I have woken up and rolled over and been hit by something warm in the face ... that warm thing being my hand ... I had utterly NO feeling from the shoulder down, it was as though the arm had been novocaine'd and it is NOT pleasant. I have degenerative discs in my cervical vertebra and no curve to my neck so that's what I always attributed it to, interesting to know I'm not alone and it's not just my physical deterioration :rolleyes:

Rolling over requires using the one hand to maintain the stability of the "dead" arm so you don't do a damage to yourself ...

If I never have that happen to me again it'll be just fine with me.

Now here's a thought ... it used to happen pretty regularly until I got BACK into weights ... hmmm.

Why are conventional doctors first answers to most things, "stop lifting weights?"
 
AMEN to that sister. The fat sloppy old docs are always the first ones to tell a bro (or sis) to drop the iron. I'm not even going to tell you what my fatty alchy doc said when I told her I was on AAS. "Do you smoke or drink excessively?" I may be a juicer but for me, one beer and one smoke a year is excessive.
 
swordfish151 said:
Thats funny...I wake up every morning with my limbs asleep...Sometimes i sleep on my stomach sometimes on my side...
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What is with all the numb limbs around here.





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My hands go numb if my arms are bent. laying on my back or sitting up. been happening for over a year now. explain that one for me, please.
 
I firmly believe that there's more to it than body position or occlusion of the subclavian. I have this same issue while on a cycle but it quickly resolves after I stop the AS. I just can't figure out the mechanism. I'm currently leaning towards the possiblity that the normal atonia associated with REM sleep that occurs at the neural synapse may be esqued and transfered to the mylinated nerves of the cervical spine. This would indeed cause the feeling of paralysis in the upper extremities and resolve very quickly upon awakening, which is exactly the symptoms I suffer. The supraphysiological levels of blood Testosterone that occur during an AS cycle may extend the chemical response to atonia in the brain and allow leakage of the normal barrier to ancillary regions. Or....it could be my neck is just too fuckin big! :chomp:
 
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blood pools in veins. flexing of muscles helps pump that blood back to the heart, that's why arteries have much more muscle around them then veins, veins need the skeletal muscles to help get the blood up to the heart. not flexing mucles/using them, in your sleep, allows that blood to pool.

my $.02
 
id like to know if this happens to guys who have never tried AAS as frequently. weather your 120 pounds or 250, if you use steroids the new mass is going to impede on something. thats my 2 cents.

btw it happens to me all the time.
 
Try a body pillow(60') and try for a position that is not on your belly or on your side you'll have to experiement until you find a postion that works for your arm underneath. Also, don't fight the urge to roll over (and with the pillow) and try your arms straighter - your hand bent up towards your shoulder or face just aggravates the problem.

Good Luck
 
michaeltt said:
id like to know if this happens to guys who have never tried AAS as frequently. weather your 120 pounds or 250, if you use steroids the new mass is going to impede on something. thats my 2 cents.
btw it happens to me all the time.
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If you read my original post I have not done AAS.

Therefore you are correct.
 
the-short-one said:
My hands go numb if my arms are bent. laying on my back or sitting up. been happening for over a year now. explain that one for me, please.
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Could be bad blood circulation..this is while your awake right?
 
the-short-one said:
My hands go numb if my arms are bent. laying on my back or sitting up. been happening for over a year now. explain that one for me, please.
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Carpal tunnel will do it too. Basically it comes down to either:

1. A problem in the spine, or;

2. Overuse.
 
musclemom, your all natural?? well whoppy doo da. why are you in the STEROIDS discussion you perfect angel. Here to look down on all of us?
 
cokesniff said:
musclemom, your all natural?? well whoppy doo da. why are you in the STEROIDS discussion you perfect angel. Here to look down on all of us?
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Check yourself :newbie: and dont diss musclemom....she's a good lady and has contributed alot to the forum(s).... w/16 post..what have you contributed...
 
swordfish151 said:
Check yourself :newbie: and dont diss musclemom....she's a good lady and has contributed alot to the forum(s).... w/16 post..what have you contributed...
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agreed...

Now back to the discussion at hand:

Ulter: LOL! Done that one before... kinda flopped outa bed, it was very amusing! They feel like "play-doh" when that happens, kinda scary at first because I can't move my anything from delts down to my finger tips... strange. I usually (if my other arm isn't numb) flop it around until i get feeling and can clench my fist and then lift it up and flex all the muscles around to get some blood moving in there.

Velvett: Great idea! Yeah keeping my arms down is wicked hard, it's just very comfortable for me to keep them up or streched out, if they're down my face gets sucked into the pillow. I'm going to have to try out a body pillow sometime.

Vertigo: I'd reply to you but I'd need a dictionary to read what you've written :p
 
swordfish151 said:
Could be bad blood circulation..this is while your awake right?
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mostly in bed, but it does happen sometines when I'm sitting up. If my arm is bend for a long period of time, the last three fingers on both hands go numb.
 
TheLion sent me a "K" message and told me that he had the same problem and that it could be due to a pinched nerve......I know i had a pinch nerver for almost 2 years when i was younger...but dont anymore..
 
I have the same problem..and it only started when I got big. I swear its all the new muscle in my arms that came so quick from aas.
 
Sarge thanks for posting up your findings :)

the-short-one said:
mostly in bed, but it does happen sometines when I'm sitting up. If my arm is bend for a long period of time, the last three fingers on both hands go numb.
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I'm no doc, but TSO - Ever hear of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (TOS)?

Ulter said:
I get it all the time. The fun ones are when both arms are over my head and I wake up and they're both asleep. Try getting out of bed like that. lol
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I would pay money to see this :FRlol:
 
cokesniff said:
I have the same problem..and it only started when I got big. I swear its all the new muscle in my arms that came so quick from aas.
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Lifting heavy weights and eating creates makes one's muscles larger. Not AAS alone... AAS would simply preserve muscle otherwise.

Yes, bigger one's chest and shoulder area the more this seems to happen... but mostly when sleeping with the arms "up."


TheShortOne: I'd say pinched nerve also or something similar... get it checked out by an M.D. All we can do is speculate on here.
 
cokesniff said:
musclemom, your all natural?? well whoppy doo da. why are you in the STEROIDS discussion you perfect angel. Here to look down on all of us?
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'tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt silly child. I don't look down on the people who use gear, so don't get pissy with me because I eat organic food and DON'T use gear.

ANYWAY, I contributed to this thread because I suffer from the same problem and I am in the medical field, specifically neurology and orthopedics.

In the case of some people, it's muscle tissue swelling and compressing the neural paths (neuropathy).

In the case of other people it's tendons swelling from overuse/repetative use or tendinopathy (carpal tunnel syndrome or tennis elbow).

In the case of others its a situation where you have degenerative discs that permit causing compression on the nerve roots as they exit the neural foramina (aka, cervical radiculopathy).
 
Ugh! I hate that! You're in a stupor because you're not quite conscious, and as you roll over, a strange arm clubs you across your face - lo and behold it's your own dead arm! And then the pain sets in after a minute. YARG!
 
*Bunny* said:
Sarge thanks for posting up your findings :)


I'm no doc, but TSO - Ever hear of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (TOS)?


I would pay money to see this :FRlol:
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TSO might have TOS? I haven't heard of it.
 
wow i had no idea i sheared this problem with so many others i never even related it to weights i always thought i had some weired blood circulation problem, if i sleep on my back i snore so loud i wake my self up if i sleep on my stomache my arms go numb its scarry i just massage my hand till i get feeling back in it, usually takes a couple mins
 
I'm going to assemble my panel of experts and see if I can come up with a valid explaination for this malady. This is what we know so far, the two common demoninators are; muscle growth and sleep. Some folks have stated that they have numb arms even though they don't do AS. But they do work out heavily. Everyone indicates that this only occurs during sleep. If it were as simple as blood pooling in the muscle after excerise then the numbness should occur anytime we put our arms over our head for an extended period. Example, I went to the pool yesterday afternoon and laid on my back for an hour with my arms extended above my head, no numbness. What's missing? Sleep! Personally, I don't have these problems if I'm not taking AS. I think the mechanism behind this is much more complicated that we're guessing, and if anyone out there whom may need a Graduate disertation could have just hit a goldmine.
 
My limbs go numb when i dont get regular massage

i get 2 hours of nueromuscular therapy a week....all the numbness goes away...go figure, must have something to do with muscles compressing nerves or something
 
Vertigo said:
Example, I went to the pool yesterday afternoon and laid on my back for an hour with my arms extended above my head, no numbness. What's missing? Sleep!
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I believe the missing component to be the pressure of one's body weight, downward facing, along with the pressure and possible constriction of blood flow from that "artery" under our collar bone that supplies our arms when above or perpendicular to our body.

Sleep also as you stated because of the pressure and angle during an extended period of time.

All due to "more than nessesary" muscle mass on our upper bodies, particularly in our upper chest and shoulder girdle (sp?!) , AAS or not (my case).

Very interesting that alot of people suffer from this, thankfully it's not life threatening and we'll all live after we experience the slight scare in the morning and flopping around of "dead" appendages for a few momments.
 
For the Males,
Note I NEVER EVER tried this, So TRY AT UR OWN RISK!!

try sleeping on ur belly................................................................






































































then have another MALE sleep ontop of u, NAKED!



HAHAHA, sorry I couldnt help it!
 
sgtslaughter said:
I believe the missing component to be the pressure of one's body weight, downward facing, along with the pressure and possible constriction of blood flow from that "artery" under our collar bone that supplies our arms when above or perpendicular to our body.

Sleep also as you stated because of the pressure and angle during an extended period of time.

All due to "more than nessesary" muscle mass on our upper bodies, particularly in our upper chest and shoulder girdle (sp?!) , AAS or not (my case).

Very interesting that alot of people suffer from this, thankfully it's not life threatening and we'll all live after we experience the slight scare in the morning and flopping around of "dead" appendages for a few momments.
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I agree with what you are saying, and it reminded me of something that happened to a friend due to said 'pressure' ... The "more than necessary muscle mass on our upper bodies" did not apply to his situation specifically, just way too much alcohol and passing out SO HARD, the body couldn't adjust itself in the middle of the night. He lost complete feeling in his arm for almost a year, and the doc told him it may NEVER return ... the feeling & movement did eventually, but completely? I'm not so sure.
 
the-short-one said:
My hands go numb if my arms are bent. laying on my back or sitting up. been happening for over a year now. explain that one for me, please.
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That is so funny, I just seen the doc for the same prob. The tendits in your elbo are inflamed, so when you bend your arm when you sit at a tabal and prop your elbos on the tabal, it puts presher on them tendits in your iner elbo and makes your finggers go numb. He gave me some inflamitorys but it dont help he said I need theripy.....
 
I've suffered with this on and off for a couple of years. It only happens when I sleep in a t-shirt otherwise I'm fine.
 
BigCracker said:
I was dreaming I ate this shitty tasting chocolate pudding and I woke up with a spoon in my ass.
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BigCracker again.

LMFAO!!!!! TOO FUNNY!!
 
supra5469 said:
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BigCracker again.

LMFAO!!!!! TOO FUNNY!!
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I told this girl I know's 5 yr old kid that joke and he laughed his ass off for like 20 minutes. Too bad he got suspended from school the next day for repeating it verabatim in front of his whole class. Oops. Sorry mom. My bad. I probably should've told him the G-rated marshmallow dream story instead? However, his class didn't seem to mind-which is probably 50% of the reason he got in trouble. Andrew Dice Clay had to start somewhere too.
 
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