Very Important! 10 Year Anniv. Of Waco Slaughter! Do Not Forget!!!

[XBiker]

Xbiker:

Ruby Ridge. - I'm not sure, I don't know much about this one..sorry..

Waco. - Well you see the thread..

Murrah Building. - Like I said last time you asked me this I don't know, I dont know much about it

WTC - Pentagon. .... Not really sure on this one... I wouldn't say government in the classic sense if anything...

Ruby Ridge - http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/enforce/rubyridge/

Waco - A "whacko" who was at Waco and is also a former member of the US Military watches as the compound burns. (See below)
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/waco000630.html

Murrah Building. This "whacko at waco" along with at least one other person plans a strike on a federal building in Oklahoma City, OK. The strike kills 168 AMERICANs. To that point, it was the deadliest terrorist attack to ever happen on US soil.
http://www.cnn.com/US/OKC/bombing.html

WTC - Pentagon. I think you are actually old enough to recall this one, so I won't post any links.

My point here is the government had direct involvement in #1 and #2.

There are some interesting ties between #2 and #3.

Then there's your whole "the government attacked us" on #4.

 

[Frackal]

Bro I know the overview of all these incidences, what I meant was I don't know enough detail to make a determination as to who was at fault and what-not.

 

[AAP]

Matt - you are NOT the know it all you think you are. I mean, you are the one who claimed we never really dropped a lot of bombs in North Vietnam. Duh!!!

What would have done. Let the members walk away? Legally, you can't detain anyone without arresting them. Fucking Duh again.

 

[AAP]

And again.. my question still stands. How many Waco members are in jail. You can twist it, verbalize it, compare it *YAWN* or whatever you want. Answer it.

As far as needing to know warrant info, who the fuck cares? The fact remains the same. If they complied with the instructions they would still be here.

Reading your posts, no wonder I am not surprised to see you spending $20K on a DUI that you were guilty of.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

And again.. my question still stands. How many Waco members are in jail. You can twist it, verbalize it, compare it *YAWN* or whatever you want. Answer it.

None are in jail. But 81 are still dead. I'd rather be in jail than dead.

As far as needing to know warrant info, who the fuck cares? The fact remains the same. If they complied with the instructions they would still be here.

You're speaking as if you were there.

Reading your posts, no wonder I am not surprised to see you spending $20K on a DUI that you were guilty of.

Not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand. Maybe I'll double it as I pursue acquittal. What does that have to do with anything at Waco?

 

[AAP]

Oh wait a minute.... so NONE ARE IN JAIL. Kind of like I said. And kind of like the only way they could detain them was by arresting them. I mean... this isn't Cuba. You don't just throw in them in the back of the truck and tie them up. Got to respect those rights huh? Come on, don't need to be an expert on legal issues to know about American given human rights do we?

I never said I was there, but you sure act as though you saw the entire thing up close.

So another point blank, yes or no question. If the ATF were allowed in to conduct their search peacefully, would the 81 be alive? Or would the ATF still have shot them and torched the place to the ground? 51 days. 51 days. Yeah.. they sound like they were really cooperating.

 

[Frackal]

As far as the other 80 people? Hellllooooooo? In 51 days they had hundreds of opportunities to leave.

They were not going to be prosecuted. They CHOSE to stay. They supported this man.

They were going to fight for this man. Fuck them. Whatever happened to the few who did leave? Hmmm? Were they arrested? No. Were they shot and killed? No. NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED.

Do you forget so quickly?

Besides that gross inaccuracy, you still seem to be stuck on the fact that it's appropriate for a government to end a standoff by murdering the occupants...are you aware that 5 days before the FBI torched the place Koresh said they would be coming out soon because he had translated the 7 Seals, which he viewed as his gift to the world?

This is just a differing of philosophy...you believe it's ok for the government to kill American civilians if they are not cooperating... I happen to believe that this, being America, does not tolerate that sort of activity...

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

So another point blank, yes or no question. If the ATF were allowed in to conduct their search peacefully, would the 81 be alive? Or would the ATF still have shot them and torched the place to the ground? 51 days. 51 days. Yeah.. they sound like they were really cooperating.

I don't really know if they would be alive or not. Neither do you. Based on the tactics at Ruby Ridge, we'd have to conclude that many of them would have been killed.

Here aer some pointblank questions for you:

What difference does it make if it is 51 days, or 100 days? How would the extra time have mattered, to the government?

Suppose they had come out peacefully at 251 days. Would that be better than the outcome?

 

[KAYNE]

So another point blank, yes or no question. If the ATF were allowed in to conduct their search peacefully, would the 81 be alive? Or would the ATF still have shot them and torched the place to the ground? 51 days. 51 days. Yeah.. they sound like they were really cooperating.

YES, THEY WOULD STILL BE ALIVE.

NO, NOONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN SHOT (JUST ARRESTED).





KAYNE

 

[Frackal]

Really Kayne? How do you know that?