var, winny, primo, fat loss without muscle loss

[wetback]

I started off with 25mg of primo every 3rd day worked it up to 50mg every 3rd day. For 2 weeks I added 10mg of var when I was at 50mg primo every 3rd day. I did it to see my reaction as that is the stack I plan on running for my comp.

Anyways I had some great strength gains and brought up my lbm a lot in 8 weeks. PRed on my DL and my squat.

I saw the post that she is also running GH too. What does she think so far and how far along in the cycle is she?

She is only in week 3 of the Primo & GH and week 2 of the Var.
She doing 50mg\wk and 5mg\day with 2iu\day.

She's run the Var at 10 and had mild sides.

The Primo and GH are new so she is keeping the Var at 5mg\day until she hsees her reaction to the Primo.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

She is only in week 3 of the Primo & GH and week 2 of the Var.
She doing 50mg\wk and 5mg\day with 2iu\day.

She's run the Var at 10 and had mild sides.

The Primo and GH are new so she is keeping the Var at 5mg\day until she hsees her reaction to the Primo.

Smart to keep the doses low like that less chance of sides. How long is the cycle going to be? How long is she going to run the GH for? How old is she?

 

[wetback]

Smart to keep the doses low like that less chance of sides. How long is the cycle going to be? How long is she going to run the GH for? How old is she?

Thanks we planned on low and slow.

Cycle is 12 weeks, we are running together.

The GH is going to be 6 months, again we are running together. Our plan is 2iu(for her) for at least 3 months then MAYBE up it.

And she is 34(avatar) I am 37 we have 4 kids.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Thanks we planned on low and slow.

Cycle is 12 weeks, we are running together.

The GH is going to be 6 months, again we are running together. Our plan is 2iu(for her) for at least 3 months then MAYBE up it.

And she is 34(avatar) I am 37 we have 4 kids.

She looks smoking! I have also seen you guys over at IT. I wouldn't up the GH 2iu is good as it gets for woman. Does she compete?

 

[wetback]

She looks smoking! I have also seen you guys over at IT. I wouldn't up the GH 2iu is good as it gets for woman. Does she compete?

No...LOL...I keep telling her she should.
And don't know about the GH. I agree most of what I've read is 2iu max.

 

[Sassy69]

Start a 1iu/day. Move up to 2iu as you feel appropriate. You don't really see "amazing" results with it by itself. But absolutely no reason for women to go above 2iu. When you start getting higher all you get is sore joints, like a serious case of carpel tunnel.

Keep in mind, when you are taking GH, you are supplementing something that is naturally created by your body in amounts appropriate to, well to keep it simple, your age. Just like testosterone product is at its highest in a guy's late teen yrs, GH production is at its highest around say age 21. That's what gives young people the ability to burn bodyfat more efficiently, have supple skin, energy, etc .etc etc - all those things that define youth are due in a large part to GH levels. When you introduce an outside source fo GH it isn't necessarily a better thing to introduce more than your body needs.

If you are say 55 yrs you would probaby get some fantastic benefits from GH replacement therapy -- as a matter of fact, there's a retired rich fuy in SE Florida who has been on GH therapy for awhile - he holds some of the world records for oldest scuba diver beign down to the deepest depths, cave diving, etc.

If you spoke w/ a doc (e.g. a hormone replacement specialist) they would work with you to find the level of GH that is appropraite for you to replace whatever your own system is no longer producing due to your age, and run at that level. If you are self-medicating, then you need to keep this in mind. If you are younger, then really keep it in mind. GH will supplement an AAS cycle nicely, but there is absolutely no reason to get wild w/ your dosages. More is not better, esp for women.

 

[wetback]

WOW Sassy thanks for the input that was huge. She is 34 and like I said I think we are staying at the 2iu. She'll run it for the 6 months as planned. And work our asses off for the best results possible.

 

[Sassy69]

Kewl - at that age there is absolutely no reason to be aggressive w/ the gh.

 

[wetback]

Kewl - at that age there is absolutely no reason to be aggressive w/ the gh.

Biggest thing now is to try to convince her that she has the ability to compete.

 

[Sassy69]

Why is that? Your aspirations are the only thing that limit you! Granted you have to be a little bit psychotic to follow a competition regimen for 8-16 weeks, however, if its soemthing you want, you can do it! I've also said a hundred times, esp for your first show, NEVER let that one show or your ability to do it define you as a person. If you aren't ready for that particular show, then pick a back up date. People do shows all the time. And not everyone wins on their first shot. There is an art to just "doing" a show, even if your body is in 100% perfect shape. If you suck on stage, it doesn't really matter how good you look. But set the goal & expectation accordingly -- for many people, their first show is a personal acknowledgement & celebration of reaching a personal goal. Enjoy it for what it is, get the experience and if you like it, go into a second show with a new set of improved ammo & attitude and THEN blow them off the stage. Just like everythign else in life, it is a step towards the next thing, whatever that next thign may be. But you will come out of it with a unique experience that 99.99% of the world can't even fathom.

She shoudl identify the things that make her think she can't compete, make a list, and then come up w /a plan to address every one of them. Just like anything else, you need to prepare some for competition. Better post up that list & we can offer some advice for addressing it. There's a sticky at the top called "So you want to compete" -- post on that one and we can add to it -- these are the questions that anyone new to comp will have!