Use of anadrol

[Nelson Montana]

No, not just Primo -- pretty much everything. But I do love me my Primo.

 

[philbilly]

It's funny. When I did interviews with the pros in the 90's they'd talk about drol like it was so hardcore. Lots of guys thought it was too much. Most would break a tab in half and that'd be their daily dosage. And now you have regular guys asking if 100 mgs is enough. Either everyone has lost their mind, forgot how to train, or the shit today is severely underdosed.

Here is a quick cut and paste that is all over the internet.

"The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia."

So you can see that 100mg is not a high dose at all for a 200 lb man, on the contrary it is rather conservative. If I took the high end of the recommended dose I'd be at 440mg a day of pharmaceutical grade drol, not the UGL 100mg a day I just got done with. I personally don't like Anadrol because even at 200mg a day I didn't see any noticeable gains. This is my second run with it and I'm not gonna waste my time again, I get much better results from Dbol or Winstrol.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Here is a quick cut and paste that is all over the internet.

"The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia."

So you can see that 100mg is not a high dose at all for a 200 lb man, on the contrary it is rather conservative. If I took the high end of the recommended dose I'd be at 440mg a day of pharmaceutical grade drol, not the UGL 100mg a day I just got done with. I personally don't like Anadrol because even at 200mg a day I didn't see any noticeable gains. This is my second run with it and I'm not gonna waste my time again, I get much better results from Dbol or Winstrol.

??? I 'm not sure of your math. It says TWO mgs a day for a child (which is prescribed for severe malnutrion, anemia or wasting disease) so you're speculating that for a 200 pound a dosage EIGHT HUNDRED TIMES HIGHER would be proportionate? ????

If a child's dose is 2mgs, an adult's dose would be around 10 mgs.

 

[philbilly]

Per kg of body weight! I know you don't like Anadrol even though you have never used it, but don't make shit up to try and make me look foolish.

 

[ceo]

Anadrol is a DHT derivative, so it will not raise progesterone levels. Studies have shown that Anadrol has no significant progestational effect. Testosterone has a higher progestational effect than Anadrol.

 

[ceo]

Kerr was a nutjob. And he had an agenda of creating ultimate performance in competitive athletes. In other words, winning is all that matters. And Kerr himself dropped dead at 65.

Bottom line, Drol is a shitty drug with weak receptor acceptance. THAT is why it's 50 mgs. But that's 50 17AA mgs. Why not use a drug that is more potent? I have to laugh when people complain about Dbol bloat -- which is nothing compared to Anadrol bloat.

That nutjob prescribed steroids to 20 some odd medal winners at the 1984 olympics. I'd say he created some ultimate performance alright. He said he started prescribing to athletes because he learned they were getting black market steroids off the street. He felt getting clean, uncut pharmaceutical compounds and being monitored by a physician would be safer. What he ultimately learned was that the athletes were taking his prescriptions and still getting the black market AAS to increase the dosages or add additional compounds. His dosage recommendations weren't all that high. I seem to recall he had low recommendations for deca and var. I'll look them up later in my notes.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Per kg of body weight! I know you don't like Anadrol even though you have never used it, but don't make shit up to try and make me look foolish.

I'm not making shit up bro. And it has nothing to do with whether I use it or not. I'm not some kid who just discovered the site. I've been writing on the topic for the last 20 years.

I misunderstood your comparisons. But 2 mgs per kg for a child? I'm calling bullshit on that. I'd like to see that recommendation. So a 90 pound kid would be getting prescribed 80 mgs of drol a day? For WHAT? I think you're very mistaken. But oh wait, you cut and paste it from the internet. So it MUST be true!

 

[Nelson Montana]

That nutjob prescribed steroids to 20 some odd medal winners at the 1984 olympics. I'd say he created some ultimate performance alright. He said he started prescribing to athletes because he learned they were getting black market steroids off the street. He felt getting clean, uncut pharmaceutical compounds and being monitored by a physician would be safer. What he ultimately learned was that the athletes were taking his prescriptions and still getting the black market AAS to increase the dosages or add additional compounds. His dosage recommendations weren't all that high. I seem to recall he had low recommendations for deca and var. I'll look them up later in my notes.

I'm aware he created winners, but so what? Steroids help with athletic performance. Everyone knows that. It doesn't matter if the guy drops dead afterward. His reasoning was also flawed.

At any rate we can go back and forth on this all day. Maybe I'm old. I've heard too many guys boast about how this and that is "not so bad" and they wound up dead or on dialysis. Fuck, I'm not talking out of my ass here. I LIKE steroids and advocate their usage. But when guys start thinking that 50 mgs is okay, then guys start thinking 100 mgs is okay and 150 isn't that bad, and why not 200 and on and on it goes and they keep forgetting that the effects don't hit you right away.

But maybe what really bugs me is knowing that anyone who uses that much, and isn't on a pro level, is not a real bodybuilder and is just expecting the drugs to do most of the work. But that's me. To each his own.

 

[ceo]

Here are Kerr's recommended dosages of different AAS he prescribed to athletes.

Anadrol - 50mg twice a day
Anavar - 10mg - 15mg a day total (tabs were 2.5mg each, total dose was a split dose)
deca durabolin - 100mg to 200mg a week
dianabol - 5mg tabs, 10mg twice a day
Test Suspension - 100mg a day
Test Propionate - 100mg - 200mg, 2-3 times a week
Test Cypionate & Enanthate - 200mg a week

doesn't sound crazy at all to me. No bros here would cycle with 10-15mg of var (just the girls). Only guys I've seen on 100-200mg of deca are guys using it in TRT. 20mg of dbol? Very rarely seen anymore (such a low dose). Test C or E at 200mg/week? That's a TRT dose.

 

[philbilly]

I'm not making shit up bro. And it has nothing to do with whether I use it or not. I'm not some kid who just discovered the site. I've been writing on the topic for the last 20 years.

I misunderstood your comparisons. But 2 mgs per kg for a child? I'm calling bullshit on that. I'd like to see that recommendation. So a 90 pound kid would be getting prescribed 80 mgs of drol a day? For WHAT? I think you're very mistaken. But oh wait, you cut and paste it from the internet. So it MUST be true!

I googled therapeutic dose of Oxymetholone and that same dosing protocol comes up everywhere! I guess all of those medical and rx sites that have nothing to do with body building are all conspiring to kill off us stupid juice heads. You are an extremely self absorbed hard headed man. I know you are a seasoned body builder and steroid user but you have no personal experience with this compound, so you should put aside your unfounded bias.