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Butcher113
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Hi Folks,
I'm from Germany, so please apologize for my grammar and english skills in general.
Unfortunately, in europe is no such a great platform like Elite with precious information and experienced lifters.
Therefore I would like to raise and repeat the telogen effluvium/hair loss topic right here. I hope that we together can bring some more light into this mysterious fucking hair loss.
Last summer i started an Anavar only cycle for 8weeks 40mg. Great cycle! I didn't add weight,but for my standards my form changed dramatically. Veins all over my body, tremendously improved fat loss in comparison to natural diets and a sharp and hard look.
I finished the cycle without any pct and i was approx. 2 weeks later totally fine, no libido issues, ne estrogen problems...all good.
In January I started the same cycle and added 50 mg of Tbol and a nearly competition diet I finished the cycle mid of March with approx. 6-7% body fat. Again without pct. Now, that was a fault. I feeled 3-4 weeks really unmotivated and had no drive. Typical for low testosteron levels. But so far no problem for me. I already expected it.
BUT...FUUUCCCKKKKK...end of April my fucking hair started falling out all over my head. Exactly what is described as diffuse hair loss. I lost also my short hair on the sites and the back of my head,which is absolutely unusual for the classical MPB process. After reading and researching all information on the Internet about hair loss, I quickly determined it's telogen effluvium.
So let's think about it. Anavar only was fine. Combination of Tbol and Anavar was a huge fail. Now I'm trying to dicover what caused telogen effluvium.
1. Is it simply a dramatic change of hormon levels? --> why didn't it happened in my cycles before? I did 10 years ago a test enantat cycle wihout hair loss.
2. Is it possible that telogen effluvium is caused primarily by steroids which are "unnatural" for the body? E.g. Almost everthing except testo --> no hair loss experienced on test
3. My Tbol is just cheap Dbol? This idea came yesterday into my mind, but I didn't bloated up, had no hair loss during the cycle, no acne...all good. Hmm I don't know.
4. Roids and heavy diets?
Sorry for this long and a little bit confusing text, but I'm burning like fire to start some serious cycles. But I'm totally hesitant and considering to give away my arsenal of roids.
I'm 36 and have...had totally full mid long hair. My hairline looks like the hairline of a teenager. I know, a lot of guys will recommend to shave my head, but that's not an option ;-).
However, I don't look for advice to start juicing or not, i would like to start a deep dive into the telogen effluvium issue. All threads I read on elite were more like...." Yeah, you have telogen eff....", " ahh ok, thanks".
I'm from Germany, so please apologize for my grammar and english skills in general.
Unfortunately, in europe is no such a great platform like Elite with precious information and experienced lifters.
Therefore I would like to raise and repeat the telogen effluvium/hair loss topic right here. I hope that we together can bring some more light into this mysterious fucking hair loss.
Last summer i started an Anavar only cycle for 8weeks 40mg. Great cycle! I didn't add weight,but for my standards my form changed dramatically. Veins all over my body, tremendously improved fat loss in comparison to natural diets and a sharp and hard look.
I finished the cycle without any pct and i was approx. 2 weeks later totally fine, no libido issues, ne estrogen problems...all good.
In January I started the same cycle and added 50 mg of Tbol and a nearly competition diet I finished the cycle mid of March with approx. 6-7% body fat. Again without pct. Now, that was a fault. I feeled 3-4 weeks really unmotivated and had no drive. Typical for low testosteron levels. But so far no problem for me. I already expected it.
BUT...FUUUCCCKKKKK...end of April my fucking hair started falling out all over my head. Exactly what is described as diffuse hair loss. I lost also my short hair on the sites and the back of my head,which is absolutely unusual for the classical MPB process. After reading and researching all information on the Internet about hair loss, I quickly determined it's telogen effluvium.
So let's think about it. Anavar only was fine. Combination of Tbol and Anavar was a huge fail. Now I'm trying to dicover what caused telogen effluvium.
1. Is it simply a dramatic change of hormon levels? --> why didn't it happened in my cycles before? I did 10 years ago a test enantat cycle wihout hair loss.
2. Is it possible that telogen effluvium is caused primarily by steroids which are "unnatural" for the body? E.g. Almost everthing except testo --> no hair loss experienced on test
3. My Tbol is just cheap Dbol? This idea came yesterday into my mind, but I didn't bloated up, had no hair loss during the cycle, no acne...all good. Hmm I don't know.
4. Roids and heavy diets?
Sorry for this long and a little bit confusing text, but I'm burning like fire to start some serious cycles. But I'm totally hesitant and considering to give away my arsenal of roids.
I'm 36 and have...had totally full mid long hair. My hairline looks like the hairline of a teenager. I know, a lot of guys will recommend to shave my head, but that's not an option ;-).
However, I don't look for advice to start juicing or not, i would like to start a deep dive into the telogen effluvium issue. All threads I read on elite were more like...." Yeah, you have telogen eff....", " ahh ok, thanks".
