TWO WEEK CYCLES are the safest!

[Nelson Montana]

For what it's worth, someof you might a piece I wrote back in 1997 called STEROIDS FOR HEALTH that advocated the use of short cycles. It had some innacuracies (as did all the information on roids at that time) but the premise stll holds true. The body cannot maintain huge gains that are too abrupt. Plus, the longer you're on, the longer you're supressed. Gaining 5-6 pounds at a clip is the way to go. Of course, that isn't enough for some people. But do you have any idea how long it would take to gain five solid pounds of muscle naturally? Most people couldnt do it in a year. Yet, 4 short cycles a year will yield 20 pounds. And you KEEP it!

I don't agree with the method that was proposed here, however. I'm currently putting together new information that will update the SFH principles. For now, I'll say that one injectable and one oral is all you need. I would no longer recommend Deca and I'd never use vet stuff -- anxiety, flu symptoms, allegies -- something is obviously not right. But people ignore this evidence and contnue to use them.

 

[Lift Chief]

could you post your theories on this topic? Are you advocating 4 2 week cycles per year? Any information is appreciated.
--thanks

 

[AlPhASiLvErBaCk]

hey RG, what about a test prop and durabolin(dubol' s from india)cycle dosage for 2 weeks?
what do you think about a four week cycle?

 

[got big?]

Guys.. perhaps the point wasnt made clear in the original post, but the reason behind the 2/4 and not 4/4 or 6/6 or 3/3..etc is because according to research (from that testosterone.net article steroids from health) it was said 2 weeks of aas usage is the most the body can take before it will shut down natural test... so if yo ustop at the 2 week mark with fast acting compounds your body wont be shut down and those 4 weeks of rest will give the body ample time of recovery, i dont think youd need that much clomid if running the 2/4 cycles, but like the bro said its cheap and it wont hurt.. as long as you can handle the emotional effects

that article caught my eyes a few years back, and every few months it seems someone mentions these cycles and everyone gets excited and wants to hop on the FWC (Fancy Wagon Cycle as referred to on anabolicfitness...) bandwagon... but there never seems to be any real informatioin on results from these cycles and everything fades back to 8 week.. year on.. suicide type cycles, shadowing this style of aas usage...

more information on results, including compounds used, training style on off, post cycle treatment...etc would be much appreciated.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I don't recall saying that 4 weeks was ample time to recover. Although there won't be much suppression I'd still recommend waiting a couple of MONTHS before beginning another cycle. This is only if you're interested in maintaining your health and the logevity of your HPTA. A lot of guys don't care.

I also stated that Clomid or Nolvadex was not nessesary. And incidentally, it CAN hurt.

 

[Lift Chief]

--sorry double post--

 

[Lift Chief]

wasn't it said that someone could safely run 2 week on/4 week off cycles for an entire year more safely than 2 or 3 big cycles per year? So what your recommend, nelson, is to run a 2 week cycle then take 2 MONTHS off before the next 2 weeker?... That seems like a very long time to recover from such a short cycle-- couldn't the body safely rebound in less time than that?

 

[40butpumpin]

...and I'd never use vet stuff -- anxiety, flu symptoms, allegies -- something is obviously not right. But people ignore this evidence and contnue to use them.

Right on.

 

[Counterstrike]

nelson explain your new theory. i hate to have to shoot over and over after every month why can't it be 2 weeks on 8 weeks off. the hting with me is if i decide to ever use gear I don't really care about weight i have enough but like to cut down BF but jump 30 pounds atleast on press and improve overall in strength i doubt 2 weeks is enough for that

 

[siceone]

ok Im game I got a cycle coming up and I would like to know what a sample cycle would look like using test and tren

would it be
tren 75 ed week 1-2
test 100 ed week 1-2
off 4 weeks then repeat

any HCG?
or proviron?

clomid nolva anyone who has RUN this cycle please pM me and let me know what's up

and why wouldn't you use primo since Primo doesn't shut down HTPA right?

so couldn't you run a 10 week cycle of primo and then concurrent 2 week cycles of test and tren?

I am interested to be the guinea pig for this if anyone is willing to sare information