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Training for Bodybuilding

I'm a little confused. So fatiguing the muscle is, indead, better for overall development?

-sk
 
pwr_machine said:
I'm missing the question.:confused:

Well, how come most bodybuilders will do higher reps while powerlifters stick to usually 1-3rep maxes?

How come they stop at 5reps?8?12? Why not do 50reps?

Just trying to figure out where 5, 8, or 12 originally came from ...

-sk
 
sk* said:
Just trying to figure out where 5, 8, or 12 originally came from ... -sk

I don't know who came up with that, but I wish he/she hadn't. People have completely forgotten to listen to their bodies and train instinctively. So much banter about sets and reps, while completely oblivious to the objective at hand.

Side note: How can you go wrong if you train low reps, moderate reps, high reps, speed, GPP, and active recovery all in the same program? What could you possibly be leaving out? Until you have had a biopsy of every muscle in your body and know EXACTLY what you're dealing with, why not hit it all so there's no stone unturned?
 
There is a lot of research available showing what's good for hypertrophy, specifically 8-12 reps, but a lot of this has been done on untrained individuals who would grow from any rep scheme, also don't forget th eissue of time under tension. I could never grow off 8-12 reps consistently, nor could I add strength on it, you gotta find what works for you I think
 
Yeah, there's a lot of science behind the time under tension (TUT)theories. Unfortunately, I think they are accurate for just about everything EXCEPT size.
 
The range of all possible reps is like a continuum.

Kinda like... (assuming these are near your rep-maxes)
1-3 Neural Adaptation
4-6 Strength
8-12 Growth
12-25 Endurance
25+ Might as well do cardio

This is based on some science. Doing heavy singles/doubles/triples has been shown to increase maximal strength by increasing coordination both within a muscle and between muscles.

When discussing growth, it is important to get some higher rep work, and TUT also becomes an important factor because more volume generally means more growth. Although with growth it's not so cut and dry, as evidenced by this board and the fact that people get big doing a variety of work. One reason for recommending higher reps for growth could be that with higher reps (8+), you're not so much struggling just to get out the reps, so you can concentrate on controlling the negative, which is important for growth.

I try and think of it like this: if the weight's heavier than one you've touched in the recent past, it'll cause growth as long as you're lifting with reasonable volume (at least like 10 reps total). Eg, doing one single 1RM as a workset probably won't do much for ya.
 
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