Train bi's same day as tri's?

[Rebelrocker]

there are many guys with less posts than i and they got a star.

 

[gwl9dta4]

your right on one thing.. a great pump doesn't necessarily mean your gonna get better growth..

but no pump does not mean that either.. i forget the technical term but i would say that it was "tearing muscle fibers" is all you have to do to grow.

either way i would say a pump is a better sign that your gonna grow


p.s. i grow ALOT better when i do them together

Yes that is it. You have to basically induce micro trauma to the fiber. Fancy word for tearing the muscle fibers through the eccentric movement. That is why in my post i brought up the soreness part. Soreness is a really important indicator of growth.

For example, my chest gets sore no matter what i do. And it grows like a weed even with only pushups. Now my arms are a different story, they are really hard to get sore and hence do not want to grow. They pump easily but dont get sore. But when they do, by alternating routines every week they grow at a rate similar to my chest. It's all about micro fractures in the muscle fibers, and not the ammount of weight lifted, sets performed etc..Intensity and variety are key.

 

[BigAndy69]

You also need to consider that sometimes pumps can get in the way of reaching muscle failure.

I'm the same as you gwl9dta4. My chest grows at a very fast rate as well as my back. In fact some weeks, I skip back training altogether. If I want my arms to grow, I have to train Chest and Back at maintenance.

 

[Rebelrocker]

You also need to consider that sometimes pumps can get in the way of reaching muscle failure.

Hey!! thats exactly why i cant get a good biceps workout,i hit "failure" too early,even if they weight is extremely light,it pisses me off,got any ideas how to reduce pumps?

 

[johnny tougharms]

bi's tri's and traps here

 

[gwl9dta4]

Hey!! thats exactly why i cant get a good biceps workout,i hit "failure" too early,even if they weight is extremely light,it pisses me off,got any ideas how to reduce pumps?

Well dont reduce pumps. But if you reach failure even with light weights too early then you need to break through the pain barrier. Try this: instead of counting reps decide to keep the muscle under stress for a specified period of time. With a stopwatch set the timer for 60 seconds and keeps repping till the timer runs out. Of the pain becomes extremly difficult then perform rest-pause reps till you get to the time limit. Also try half reps or the classic 21.

 

[reconnect]

sometimes I do and then I alternate bis and tris meaning one bis exercise then one tris exercise

 

[JG1]

I always do bi's and tri's together. In fact, I do them in compound sets...one set bi's, one set tri's, one set bi's, one set tri's, etc etc.

 

[Ingram]

Bi's/Tri's are great together, but my arms get the biggest pump on my chest/back day...

 

[GearCowboy]

I do back and bis and chest and tris