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majutsu
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You people are confusing multinational pharmaceutical companies, the FDA and American law. This is not one entity. The FDA is stupid, and American law is stupid, especially the war on drugs, the steroid laws, and the rights of women etc. which are out of sync with the rest of the world, especially our brothers in europe. It is because of all the dumb puritans in america that we have such stupid laws. The pharmaceutical companies you think of as part of some conspiracy theory, like organon, are happy to sell their quality products in many other countries. And believe me, they would be happen to open a legit american market. Same with the hemp textile and marijuana companies of switzerland and germany, and the seed companies of the uk and other parts of europe. The worse thing about america is the dumbasses sitting around us who vote. Talk to your average middle american about steroids, marijuana, or abortion and "feel the love and knowledge" coming out of them like a big black hole. The obstacle to change is the ignorant around us, not schering, pfizer, organon or sandoz. lmfao they still make lsd for use in some countries, believe me, they don't care . . .
Hard Knock
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lol, make roids legal so every uneducated f$%^ can kill themselves. 'NICE'
Honestly, i've seen exactly 6 peeps way over do it on roids and ruin their health(with 2 dieing) i for one would only like to see roids legalized but there should be some type of boundaries set though.
Like, you have to learn about using them 'fully' first, or something. Someone mentioned it before, 2 wrongs wouldn't make anything right.
But, eh? I've used pro-hormones for 2 years and have made decent gains with size and strength; i know it'd be way better with roids, and me being the type person i am i would definetly do a whooooole lot of research on how to control what i take. Problem is a lot of people WOULD over do it though...
Honestly, i've seen exactly 6 peeps way over do it on roids and ruin their health(with 2 dieing) i for one would only like to see roids legalized but there should be some type of boundaries set though.
Like, you have to learn about using them 'fully' first, or something. Someone mentioned it before, 2 wrongs wouldn't make anything right.
But, eh? I've used pro-hormones for 2 years and have made decent gains with size and strength; i know it'd be way better with roids, and me being the type person i am i would definetly do a whooooole lot of research on how to control what i take. Problem is a lot of people WOULD over do it though...
liftsiron
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Honestly, i've seen exactly 6 peeps way over do it on roids and ruin their health(with 2 dieing) i for one would only like to see roids legalized but there should be some type of boundaries set though.
No offense but your either mistaken or a liar. You know two people who died exclusively because of steroid use. Your full of shit.
No offense but your either mistaken or a liar. You know two people who died exclusively because of steroid use. Your full of shit.
majutsu
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Hard Knock, don't you think that people would be safer going to their doctor for a legal bulking cycle, complete with blood tests (testosterone, liver panels, cholesterol), and competent information given with it? Why do you think people are safer buying products of unknown quality or origin on a black market without any reliable information to go with it? Think BEFORE you write next time. Of course steroids should be decriminalized . . .
Hard Knock
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No, im far from it, yes i have. One from using them way beyond the senseable boundaries; the other i can't be totally for sure it was only roids alone, but it was said by medics that it contributed to his liver failure. He had no family history, and didn't do alcohol...so...but were all intitled
Mind you, these dudes had really no know-how of how to use.
Yes, that is what i was trying to say right there...as long as it is closely monitored yes...that's coo...
PS. Don't jump the gun guys, im just saying i wouldn't like to see them legalized so any kid could take it, or anyone without supervision or know how...
liftsiron
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No, im far from it, yes i have. One from using them way beyond the senseable boundaries; the other i can't be totally for sure it was only roids alone, but it was said by medics that it contributed to his liver failure. He had no family history, and didn't do alcohol...so...but were all intitled
Mind you, these dudes had really no know-how of how to use.
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What is a medic? Are they trained to determine the cause of death ? It is far more likely that if you knew someone that died of acute liver failure, it was caused by tylonel for pain and not aas.
Mind you, these dudes had really no know-how of how to use.
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What is a medic? Are they trained to determine the cause of death ? It is far more likely that if you knew someone that died of acute liver failure, it was caused by tylonel for pain and not aas.
Hard Knock
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I say medic...meaning medical doctor.
Also, this was what his autopsy found...
No, he didn't just kil over a die, he was bed stricken for a while before the 'total' liver failure
Stated in our town news paper about 5 years ago, around that time here; there were a string of casulties of deaths...mostly sports related...but his story was talked about also...i guess for reason to change minds of younger individuals from beginning using or w/e.
I knew him when i was young; this wasn't instant, he'd been using them for years before i met him. Was introduced by my older bro to him at 16...im going on 28 now...
I mean, i still have the news clipping, i can fax it or jpg the clipping to you.
PS. I can't dispute your knowledge of juicing, cuz your apparently pretty knowlegable of the subject, but are u saying using dangerous dosages isn't hazardous?
Hey, read me, i never said using was deadly...i said "uneducated" useage...
Also, this was what his autopsy found...
No, he didn't just kil over a die, he was bed stricken for a while before the 'total' liver failure
Stated in our town news paper about 5 years ago, around that time here; there were a string of casulties of deaths...mostly sports related...but his story was talked about also...i guess for reason to change minds of younger individuals from beginning using or w/e.
I knew him when i was young; this wasn't instant, he'd been using them for years before i met him. Was introduced by my older bro to him at 16...im going on 28 now...
I mean, i still have the news clipping, i can fax it or jpg the clipping to you.
PS. I can't dispute your knowledge of juicing, cuz your apparently pretty knowlegable of the subject, but are u saying using dangerous dosages isn't hazardous?
Hey, read me, i never said using was deadly...i said "uneducated" useage...
Sigmund Roid
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I think we have to blame the feminists. I read an article in a Dutch acedemic newspaper about men and violence, and the whole paper was based on the following assumption:
"Men are agressive, men have 10 times more testosterone than women, so testosterone makes one aggressive". They even proposed to give men testosterone suppressive drugs.
So according to the population, thanks to those lovely femininists, men will turn into rapists and serial killers if they use testosterone/AAS, and of course we don't want that, hence AAS are forbidden.
Well, I have been hypogonadal for 4 years, and believe me, I was an aggressive, irritable s.o.a.b., but after giving myself HRT (and higher dosages), I feel peaceful again.
"Men are agressive, men have 10 times more testosterone than women, so testosterone makes one aggressive". They even proposed to give men testosterone suppressive drugs.
So according to the population, thanks to those lovely femininists, men will turn into rapists and serial killers if they use testosterone/AAS, and of course we don't want that, hence AAS are forbidden.
Well, I have been hypogonadal for 4 years, and believe me, I was an aggressive, irritable s.o.a.b., but after giving myself HRT (and higher dosages), I feel peaceful again.
Yes, the urban areas of this country are totally feninized and the rural areas tend to be ultra conservative so either way, steroids will never be understood or accepted.
Just look at what's happening here. People can't understand that "legal" does not mean that anybody easily can get a hold of something and use as much as they want. But if I live to be 1000 years old I'll never undersatnd how anyone can think making something illegal means that anyone can't esily get a hold of something and use as much as they want.
Just look at what's happening here. People can't understand that "legal" does not mean that anybody easily can get a hold of something and use as much as they want. But if I live to be 1000 years old I'll never undersatnd how anyone can think making something illegal means that anyone can't esily get a hold of something and use as much as they want.
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