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One of my training partners uses chad nicholls to set up all his supplementation. We've been talking about me trying slin. The guy obviously knows his shit if he's getting it from Chad. I know the risks involved, but I'm trying to weigh the pros vs. cons. If any one with slin experience would chime in with any info, that would be awesome. Here's what the cycle would look like.

tues after legs inj. 6iu's and consume 2-3000 calories
Sunday 3 inj. of 6iu's and consume 2-3000 calories after each inj

I would run this for 6 weeks being that I'm a pussy and error in the side of safety. This would be on top of a base cycle of test enan/tren enan. Aproximately 700mg of test and 300mg of tren a week.
 
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This is how I use it, and I love it. It works! It is not for beginners. It is not for college kids trying to get an edge on their buddies for spring break. It is for people who are using AS, training hard, have their diet spot on and ready to take it to the next level.
If you are 215lbs to 230lbs 10 i.u.s immediately PWO. 231lbs to 250lbs 20 i.u.s split up in a day, 251lbs+ 30 i.u.'s split up over the course of the day.
You should start at 2 i.u.'s after your workout and immediately take in 20 g of carbs. Generally the rule is 10 g per i.u. of insulin. Work your way up to 10 per day and see how you feel. Personally I use 10 i.u.s immediately pwo and drink a Carbo Force. It has 110 g of carbs. Then 8 hrs later I take another 10 i.u.'s with another 100 g of carb (CarboForce or weight gainer shake).
Try to get a hold of Humalog. It requires a script but if you are savvy you can figure out how to get it. It is in and out within 2-3 hrs after your inject. Humulin R, availaible at most pharmacies w/o a script is active for 4-6 hrs. You have to keep your fat intake at almost zero during this time or insulin use will make you FAT. I use slin for 30 days and then switch to IGF-1LR3 for 30 days and then back to slin.
With regards to your plan, I can't say its wrong but I would never recommend someone who has never done slin to take in 18 i.u's on sunday. Thats alot for someone not use to insulin. Its also pretty hard to take in 6 to 9000 calories fat free. I wouldnt know how to pull that off. I use CytoGainer after alot of my slin injects it has 75 g of carb,54 g of protein and 3.5 g of sat fat for a total of 570 calories. I have never felt any hypo effects, but keep in mind I am use to slin.
Good luck and beee careful.
 
I hope your not thinking you only need one meal after injecting slin. If so, dont use the insulin and read some more. The most basic information on slin for bodybuilding will tell you that you need to eat multiple times after administering insulin.

So lemme get this straight, your planning to inject 6iu's and eat 2-3000 cals at one time?? Not smart. It will be impossible to eat that many clean calories at one time, not only impossible, it will be a waste of protein and calories because your body will not use the calories sufficiently, even with excess insulin.

You need a postworkout drink with 10g of simple carbs per IU of insulin injected and about 50-60 grams of whey. One hour after that you need to eat a low fat High carb High protein meal. 2-3 hours afterwards eat the same type of meal again. Also you need to keep some sort of fast acting sugar within reach for the entire time the insulin is active, just in case you go Hypo.

Basically you can eat as much clean food as possible while its active but you still need to split up the meals an hour or so apart. Trying to get in 2-3k cals at one time is impossible unless your eating something extremely high in fat, which will lead to you getting extremely fat.

If you didnt mean that how I took it, my bad, good luck!

P.S. thats a bad ass dog in your avi, you must have him on some Winny
 
The low fat makes sense. It would be difficult to consume 2000 calories with a low fat diet. That info definately changes things. I have a 2000 calorie shake after every workout. Its gonna have too much fat. I've used cytogainer before and thought it was good, so I'll look into it again. Eating directly after and a couple of hours later sounds safe. Sugar is easy for me as I drink 10-20 mountain dews a day, however I might need to stock up on the regular instead of diet. Definately gonna read some more and ask more questions. Thanks for the help.

DJ
 
VascularitY said:
I hope your not thinking you only need one meal after injecting slin. If so, dont use the insulin and read some more. The most basic information on slin for bodybuilding will tell you that you need to eat multiple times after administering insulin.

So lemme get this straight, your planning to inject 6iu's and eat 2-3000 cals at one time?? Not smart. It will be impossible to eat that many clean calories at one time, not only impossible, it will be a waste of protein and calories because your body will not use the calories sufficiently, even with excess insulin.

You need a postworkout drink with 10g of simple carbs per IU of insulin injected and about 50-60 grams of whey. One hour after that you need to eat a low fat High carb High protein meal. 2-3 hours afterwards eat the same type of meal again. Also you need to keep some sort of fast acting sugar within reach for the entire time the insulin is active, just in case you go Hypo.

Basically you can eat as much clean food as possible while its active but you still need to split up the meals an hour or so apart. Trying to get in 2-3k cals at one time is impossible unless your eating something extremely high in fat, which will lead to you getting extremely fat.

If you didnt mean that how I took it, my bad, good luck!

P.S. thats a bad ass dog in your avi, you must have him on some Winny


The dog is drug free well was drug free. He died recently. He is a buddies dog. WHen you say Hypo you mean hypoglycemic? What are the signs? Thanks again guys.

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10-20 Mountain Dews per day, are you serious??? That would be the first thing I would do, throw that shit away. If you dont know the warning signs of hypoglycemia your nowhere ready to be using insulin. I can tell right now from your diet that insulin use isn't for you right now. Dial the diet in first, ask questions in the diet forum if you need help. These questions your asking about insulin are easily answered if you just did a simple web search on insulin and read for 2 minutes, which you obviously havent done.

Sorry to be a dick, but I cant believe your considering using slin and dont know anything at all about its use. Ill bet you dont know the difference in types of insulin, how long each type is active, or even how to administer it.

These types of posts make my jaw drop.
 
VascularitY said:
10-20 Mountain Dews per day, are you serious??? That would be the first thing I would do, throw that shit away. If you dont know the warning signs of hypoglycemia your nowhere ready to be using insulin. I can tell right now from your diet that insulin use isn't for you right now. Dial the diet in first, ask questions in the diet forum if you need help. These questions your asking about insulin are easily answered if you just did a simple web search on insulin and read for 2 minutes, which you obviously havent done.

Sorry to be a dick, but I cant believe your considering using slin and dont know anything at all about its use. Ill bet you dont know the difference in types of insulin, how long each type is active, or even how to administer it.

These types of posts make my jaw drop.


You try the search and see what comes up. Most of it is igf stuff. Pick your jaw back up and read what I wrote. I said thinking about using slin. I read on steroids for 3 years before I ever inj. anything in my body. I'm extremely safe with what I do. I drink diet mountain dew. I'm also a contractor, so the type of work I do tends to let me eat or drink what ever I want. I lead by example, so its not uncommon to see me with a shovel in my hand. I don't sit behind a desk. My diet isn't perfect, obviously. No ones is. As far as the types of insulin, lets not try to insult each other. I did a search, didn't care to sift through the bullshit, so I asked a question on a site I paid 300 dollars for a lifetime membership. Sorry to impede on your life.

BOOGS
 
I have tried the search and just as I said after 2 minutes of reading a newB would know more about insulin than you do.
 
At least I have been spared the moron that yells "dont do it you will die"
Bro, seriously, Vascularity just wants to make sure you know what your doing. DROP the 20 cans of Mountain Dew. I dont care if your a constuction worker, drink water!
Follow my directions and you will be fine (if you choose to use insulin)
 
Kachunga said:
At least I have been spared the moron that yells "dont do it you will die"
Bro, seriously, Vascularity just wants to make sure you know what your doing. DROP the 20 cans of Mountain Dew. I dont care if your a constuction worker, drink water!
Follow my directions and you will be fine (if you choose to use insulin)


Dropping the mountain dew isn't going to happen. As I said, I was thinking of it. After googling the subject and help from you guys, it seems insulin isn't going to work with my diet or my schedule. Just doesn't seem to weigh out with the quality of life I'm willing to sacrifice. Thanks guys

DJ
 
Kachunga said:
Except it shouldnt say acnemans guide to insulin since I have seen that same info posted before. Taking credit for someone elses work ain't kool.

hahhaaha.. True that bro, true that :)
 
Kachunga said:
Except it shouldnt say acnemans guide to insulin since I have seen that same info posted before. Taking credit for someone elses work ain't kool.
no one saw that info before july 9 2002 when i wrote it
and hundreds of people have taken credit for it since then

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509127&page=2&pp=20
read posts 28 and 31
if you find that info posted anywhere with a date before that ill kiss your ass

and i am kool

http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin.shtml
by the way basskiller online has like 8 other articles posted on insulin and i would read all of them before i tried it
i dont agree with everything there but its good to get more opinions
 
acneman said:
no one saw that info before july 9 2002 when i wrote it
and hundreds of people have taken credit for it since then

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509127&page=2&pp=20
read posts 28 and 31
if you find that info posted anywhere with a date before that ill kiss your ass

and i am kool

http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin.shtml
by the way basskiller online has like 8 other articles posted on insulin and i would read all of them before i tried it
i dont agree with everything there but its good to get more opinions
OK bro, I will get to the bottom of this. If you did indeed write it, then props to you because it is valid information. I will get back to everyone with my results.
 
Kachunga said:
OK bro, I will get to the bottom of this. If you did indeed write it, then props to you because it is valid information. I will get back to everyone with my results.
yeah no prob brotha
i think the real issue is weather or not im the real acneman
i know that was original work for this board but i was banned and came back
so how do you know im really acneman
well i can post my fat pic in the same tank top that i used in 02 for the pics on members board if that will help but there were no face pics so you could still have doubt

as far as the original acneman being the author of that article you can see the evolution of that post with a plat search starting with the insulin safety post by acneman

let me know what you find out
 
Well bro, I have not been able to find anyone who can verify that its your work. I originally saw that faq at houseofjuice.com and I contacted the poster. He said he didnt remember where he copied it from, but he did indeed copy it.
So if you are saying it yours than I guess its now good enough for me. It really is a well written article.
So unless someone comes out of the woodwork and discredits you, I now have your back when someone asks about insulin.
 
Kachunga said:
Well bro, I have not been able to find anyone who can verify that its your work. I originally saw that faq at houseofjuice.com and I contacted the poster. He said he didnt remember where he copied it from, but he did indeed copy it.
So if you are saying it yours than I guess its now good enough for me. It really is a well written article.
So unless someone comes out of the woodwork and discredits you, I now have your back when someone asks about insulin.
cool
like i said a plat search will show some evolution of that thread
 
Kachunga said:
Except it shouldnt say acnemans guide to insulin since I have seen that same info posted before. Taking credit for someone elses work ain't kool.
actually he did write that. It was first posted here and I do remember when he posted it. I still think it's a very good article






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I retracted and told him it was a well written article.
How often do you see people cut and paste others research and claim as their own? I jumped the gun, but went back and told Acneman good job.

basskiller said:
actually he did write that. It was first posted here and I do remember when he posted it. I still think it's a very good article






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Kachunga said:
I retracted and told him it was a well written article.
How often do you see people cut and paste others research and claim as their own? I jumped the gun, but went back and told Acneman good job.
Your very true.. I see that alot and it is widespread over the boards.
I try to make sure credit is given when people post such article on the boards that I help with.. Most of the time, I don't think they are maliciously trying to take credit..But all it takes is for that first person to omit the author.
Then you'll see it everywhere without the author's name attached..
I guess we just try our best to correct it when we see it.
Knowing the author or the piece well helps..

Take care Kachunga
bass
 
I guess I should read this,

Growth does not seem to work, in my opinion


And this whole slin thing just confuses me, I think I my BF is too high for slin and

I’m at about 8-9 percent,

Just a Guess
 
solidspine said:
I guess I should read this,

Growth does not seem to work, in my opinion


And this whole slin thing just confuses me, I think I my BF is too high for slin and

I’m at about 8-9 percent,

Just a Guess
Read up on it solid, you will find that 9% is not to high for you to add slin to your program.
 
It works a lot better if HGH and T3 are added in. If you are prone to getting easily accumulated BF%'s, then you may want to use it only with the 2 compounds listed above. For those who can eat everything in the damn kitchen and never get fat, then it 'may' be a worthwhile addition.

In regards to sfety, you would have to be a complete retard to do slin wrong. However, I do realize that there are people in this world who qualify under that category so make sure to read up. After a little trial and error, you can maneuver the amount of carbs ingested, but htis will be different for everybody. I do not need 10gm/iu, but for beginner's, this is a good place to start.

BMJ
 
Monster wrote the following sometime around the year 2000 hereat EF. It may have only been posted on the Women's board.

BMJ
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"Monster's Insulin Primer"

Ok, lets have a look at insulin.
Its highly anabolic and non-androgenic, and in case some of you are in the dark (I'd like to think we're all clear on anabolic versus androgenic, but ya never know) I'll briefly touch on the subject before diving in... if youre ok on anabolic/androgenic concepts, skip to the INSULIN part...
ANDROGENIC VERSUS ANABOLIC

ANABOLIC is defined as "The process of constructive metabolism" or of building complex substances out of simple substances.
The way your body processes protien, carbohydrates, and fat (all simple substances) and makes muscle (a complex substance) is ANABOLISM.

ANDROGENIC is basically defined as pertaining to male sex characteristics.

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC

"Steroids" are actually called "Anabolic Androgenic Steroids." They accomplish "anabolism" through "anabolic" pathways, some being more androgenic (testosterone esters) and some less (winstrol, anavar, primobolan, ect...).
Most often, with reduced androgenic properties comes reduced anabolic properties, but it isnt always cut and dry. If anyone is interested I'll go into it another time, but lets head toward the insulin topic.


INSULIN: NonAndrogenic but Anabolic

Insulin is NOT a sex hormone. It is not related in any way to testosterone, or to estrogen for that matter. It is a product of the pancreas as opposed to testosterone which is a product of the HPTA, pituitary, gonadal, leydig, mishmash of interconnected glands...


WHY IS INSULIN ANABOLIC

So why is insulin anabolic then? Insulin is a partitioning agent. A "shuttle" if you will.
Picture insulin as a bus. Nutrients board the bus, and insulin pulls away and drops off the nutrients at the proper bus stop. That is basically what it does, and for all intents and purposes that is everything you need to know to understand how it works.
So by insulin shuttling these nutrient where they need to go, it enables anabolism and is therefor anabolic!


WHY NOT JUST TAKE CARBS TO RAISE INSULIN

Well, the amount of carbs you would need to take in to increase natural insulin levels to the degree a 10 i.u. shot would would be far more dangerous than using insuiln (and using insulin is NOT that hard OR dangerous).
Carbs at that level would eventually lead to diabetes and fat gains.
If insulin is a bus taking nutrients where they need to go, then exogenous insulin is a bullet train! It can hold far more nutrients than a normal naturally produced burst of insulin can, and it works quicker. Exogenous insulin is the most efficient way to accomplish glycogen overcompensation, period.


WHAT KIND DO I TAKE

Im a major supporter of fast acting insulin. The faster the better!
Currently he fastest acting insulin available is Humalog. It is active in 15 minutes, peaks in 1 hour and clears the system around 2 hours.
Next would be Humalin-R. It is active in about 30 minutes, peaks at the 2 hour mark, and clears the system at the 4 hour mark.
"Biophasics" are mixtures of fast and slow acting insulins, but are not the best choice in my opinion, due to an active dose being in you throughout the day. The reason you dont want that will be covered in the "HOW DO I USE IT" section.
There are also Humalin-L and Humalin-S, but they are long acting, and are no more use to me than the Biophasics. There are also porccine and bovine derived insulin, but I am against injecting animal derived substances.

WHEN (AND HOW MUCH) TO USE

Im going to assume we want to avoid any fat gains at all. Even bulking I dont like to gain any unneccesary fat, so Im going to disuss it from that stand point.
The ultra conservative time to use insulin is post-workout. Most people who are concerned about fat dont go over 10 i.u. as a total dose.
Some people us it on waking, before breakfast, since your body is in a basically carb depleted state. Its the kind of thng you have to try for yourslef, and if it works for you, do it. If you thnk youre gaining fat, stop. BUT! Dont start it at both times at once. Make sure you get your post workout dosage worked out and that you know it is not causing you any fat gains before you try pre-breakfast shots. That way you can take out all the guess work as to where any fat gains may come from.


DISPELLING A FEW MYTHS

There is a commoly held perception that you MUSt take in 10grams of carbs per I.U. of insulin, some radicals say 5 grams... well, theyre both wrong.
I got curious about this when I discovered that my insulin dependant diabetic friend didnt even keep track of what she ate post injection. She would feel hypoglycemic after a shot and take a Glucose Tablet.
A glucose tablet is only 5 grams of glucose (carbs)! So I started to think, "Hmmm, mabye everyone is off point on this?"
After conducting a few experiments on myself, I found that you can go considerably lower in carbs than people previously believed.
Now it doesnt make sense to go low in carbs, because that defies the purpose of using the insulin in the first place, but it does free us from having to use so much that there might be some "spill over" in carbs that cant be utilized. So it really makes us able to have more freedom in carbs choices and amounts.
The "risk" in insulin use is not as risky as people believe. Any person with an ounce of sense can see the warning signs of a problem coming, and remedy the situation.

HOW DO I DO IT

If you look at the drug store, you can get these little pen cases that hold a loaded insulin syringe. They are great for our need, you load up the syringe, and put it in the case, and throw it in your bag/purse/whatever. After the workout, head to a bathroom stall and inject it under the skin! Pull up a little skin from the abdomen or upper thigh (anywhere will do, but these are easiest) and inject. Do not shoot into a muscle. This rushes the dose and makes it harder to predict when it will spike.
So now you have 15 minutes to get some carbs (actually you have longer, since the initial hit of the dose is mild and easy to cope with, the spike is a little more harsh, but still nothing unbearable. If you use the carbs, you probobly wont notice the initial dose OR the spike.)
(this is based on Humalog at 10 i.u.)
I use a powder with a 20% simple/80% complex ratio (actually its 17% mono, 5% di, 7% tri, 5%tetra, and 66% penta-saccharides). I use about 60grams of carbs to the 10 i.u. of insulin.
This gives me a nice solid stream of carbs to overcompensate my depleted muscles, but not so many that I risk fat accumulation from the excess.
Now you are good to go till around 1 hour after the initial injection. At this 1 hour mark, the majority of the dose hits your system. Now is the time to eat a good balanced (AND FAT FREE!) meal. The fat-free emphasis will be explained in the POTENTIAL PROBLEMS section. This balance meal of carbs and protien and little to know fat can be anything from a protien drink and a crab drink, to a low fat MRP, to some lean chicken and rice... your choice.
After this meal, you dont need to pay anymore consideration to the insulin, it will gradually decrease and will be out of your system at the 2 hour mark.
Till you get accustmed to the use of insulin, start low and slow. Start at 2 i.u. then 5 i.u. then 7 i.u. then 10 i.u. That way you get a better understanding of any hypoglycemia you may encounter. Ive went as high as 35 i.u., just to try it, but at a certain point a higher dosage doesnt yield any better results (except fat!)

POTENTIAL PROBLEMS

Insulin is relativly safe. If you dont take in any carbs after using it, your body will give you PLENNTY of warning! Youll feel dizzy, tired, achey... hypoglycemic. What is happening is your body has no glycogen to use as fuel. Your muscles re depleted from working out, and often times youve tapped your liver for any remaining glycogen. The insulin does, searching for glycogen to use, takes the rest from your liver, and in the absence of carbs coming in to make more, it heads for the brain.
Your brain uses glucose as its primary fuel source (a little fat, too.) Thats why you get dizzy and light headed, the same with during a ketogenic diet... low glucose equals light headedness.
So if you forget about the carbs, youll get a warning from yuor body, and you can get your ass in gear and get some carbs in you.
If you get to the point where youre nauseated, just drink some sugary beverage and get some carbs in you quickly. Youre still a long long way from any major danger, but dont mess around.
"Fat Free" I said earlier about the 1 hour mark meal. During the 2 hours of the dosage duration, you should avoid fat like it is the plauge! Insulins partitioning properties are as effective at sending fat to the fat stores as it is carbs and protien to muscles!
So till the dose is clear of your system, NO FAT! (Thats another reason why I advocate the fastest acting insulin you can get.)


Well, I cant think of anything else off hand that needs to be said, but if I missed anything, just ask. I may have taken somethng for granted and figured everyone would know or assume on their own...
 
MR. BMJ said:
It works a lot better if HGH and T3 are added in. If you are prone to getting easily accumulated BF%'s, then you may want to use it only with the 2 compounds listed above. For those who can eat everything in the damn kitchen and never get fat, then it 'may' be a worthwhile addition.

In regards to sfety, you would have to be a complete retard to do slin wrong. However, I do realize that there are people in this world who qualify under that category so make sure to read up. After a little trial and error, you can maneuver the amount of carbs ingested, but htis will be different for everybody. I do not need 10gm/iu, but for beginner's, this is a good place to start.

BMJ
One guy stated that his friend apparently didn't understand the marks of a u100 insulin pin.
First off instead of using 2iu's and working his way up.. he started at what he thought was 10iu's..
He was very wrong and what he injected was 100iu's . They rushed him to the hospital and he recovered without harm.
Not sure as to the validity of the story..
But it's enough to scare the hell out of you..

So yes.. Please everyone even remotely thinking about this.. read... read... and read some more..

understanding insulin
http://basskilleronline.com/understanding insulin.shtml
Big Fat Bastards and Insulin
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_fat_bastards.html
How to use insulin - the most anabolic hormone
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_how_to.html
INSULIN AND HCA
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_hca.html
THE SKINNY ON INSULIN Parts 1, 2 and 3
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_skinny.html
How To Use Insulin Without Gaining Fat,
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_fatloss.html
Acnemans Insulin FAQ
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_faq.html
 
Kachunga said:
Except it shouldnt say acnemans guide to insulin since I have seen that same info posted before. Taking credit for someone elses work ain't kool.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! Acne wrote it..I have it on a zip drive and I have not had a zip drive for YEARS! He wrote it bro. Not a dig but...maybe you have not been here long enough to make a statement like that.

Quadsweep
 
WOW! BK! It kinda makes me feel warm and fuzzy to see an old school member post...We ary a dying breed my brother..howz things? Nice links too BTW.

Q.
basskiller said:
One guy stated that his friend apparently didn't understand the marks of a u100 insulin pin.
First off instead of using 2iu's and working his way up.. he started at what he thought was 10iu's..
He was very wrong and what he injected was 100iu's . They rushed him to the hospital and he recovered without harm.
Not sure as to the validity of the story..
But it's enough to scare the hell out of you..

So yes.. Please everyone even remotely thinking about this.. read... read... and read some more..

understanding insulin
http://basskilleronline.com/understanding insulin.shtml
Big Fat Bastards and Insulin
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_fat_bastards.html
How to use insulin - the most anabolic hormone
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_how_to.html
INSULIN AND HCA
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_hca.html
THE SKINNY ON INSULIN Parts 1, 2 and 3
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_skinny.html
How To Use Insulin Without Gaining Fat,
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_fatloss.html
Acnemans Insulin FAQ
http://basskilleronline.com/insulin_faq.html
 
Hey there MR. BMJ and Quadsweep.. Good to see I'm in such fine company!

Quad, Hanging in there buddy.. I stop by from time to time..
Those links were first start for kind of my online hard drive to where I could store and share some of the best articles I ran across.

Now where is my mentor Ironmaster
 
basskiller said:
Hey there MR. BMJ and Quadsweep.. Good to see I'm in such fine company!

Quad, Hanging in there buddy.. I stop by from time to time..
Those links were first start for kind of my online hard drive to where I could store and share some of the best articles I ran across.

Now where is my mentor Ironmaster
ironmaster
what a great guy
very smart too
 
Quadsweep said:
Between Mr BMJ, BK, and myself its like 15 years here on EF!

Almost 20 years actually....i've been here since at least '96.

Is there a way I can change that to my registration date? I have a link showing my posts from at least Nov of 1996.

...lol, that would be cool.

BMJ
 
10-20 moutain dews a day? Enjoy being diabetic and fat later in life. Wow.
 
Quadsweep said:
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! Acne wrote it..I have it on a zip drive and I have not had a zip drive for YEARS! He wrote it bro. Not a dig but...maybe you have not been here long enough to make a statement like that.

Quadsweep
Hmm, i guess I will go throught it again. For anyone else just joining the thread, I have read acnemans faq at other boards. So based on that, and acnemans 2006 join date, I called him out on it. Nothing ever got personal and no one used capital letters to make their point. He said he did indeed write it, albeit a long time ago. I did some checking and found this to be true. Others have been copy/pasteing his work and not giving credit where credit was due. I told him I was wrong and nice work writing the FAQ.
So yes it is true, I have not been around long enough to make a statement like the one I did, but I retracted it, like weeks ago.
 
It works a lot better if HGH and T3 are added in. If you are prone to getting easily accumulated BF%'s, then you may want to use it only with the 2 compounds listed above. For those who can eat everything in the damn kitchen and never get fat, then it 'may' be a worthwhile addition.

In regards to sfety, you would have to be a complete retard to do slin wrong. However, I do realize that there are people in this world who qualify under that category so make sure to read up. After a little trial and error, you can maneuver the amount of carbs ingested, but htis will be different for everybody. I do not need 10gm/iu, but for beginner's, this is a good place to start.

BMJ

Thanks and thanks for that 2nd post very, very helpful.
 
MR. BMJ said:
Almost 20 years actually....i've been here since at least '96.

Is there a way I can change that to my registration date? I have a link showing my posts from at least Nov of 1996.

...lol, that would be cool.

BMJ
yeah mine back to 2001
in all honesty i think my banning was out of line anyway
yesterday i got another "shutup newb" karma message from someone whos been here a year
 
MR. BMJ said:
Almost 20 years actually....i've been here since at least '96.

Is there a way I can change that to my registration date? I have a link showing my posts from at least Nov of 1996.

...lol, that would be cool.

BMJ
That was pre vbulletin days.. you are old...LOL
 
CO B-man said:
I am refraining brother!
dont refrain for me
i dont mind anyone stating thier opinion
get after it
you might hear something on this thread that you didnt hear on the "lets bash slin" thread
 
basskiller said:
That was pre vbulletin days.. you are old...LOL

lol...nah, just 30yrs. I started here when I was like 19yrs old.

Here is one of my oldest posts that I could find in the archives:

http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/steroids/1879.html

I was on way before this post though.

Here is the oldest EF post I could find in the archives (Its a reply to an older thread I believe). Again, the site was up and running way before this as well. The beginning posts were part of a message board to where they couldn't be saved:

http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/steroids/1442.html

Kind of weird looking back at this stuff. Those were the good Ol' days...lol.

BMJ
 
acneman said:
dont refrain for me
i dont mind anyone stating thier opinion
get after it
you might hear something on this thread that you didnt hear on the "lets bash slin" thread


I dont think anyone bashed slin back then. I think most people were a little concerned that some young newbie would come on board and say gee that sounds like a great ide to add with my first stack. The shit is dangerous and if that danger is downplayed a newbie might not take caution and jump right into injecting without knowing what the heck they are doing. Therefore it is something I will always talk against not because I dont think that it works and awesomely at that but it is not a beginner thing. There are a lot of guys on here that use it and know what they are doing in here though that I know
 
CO B-man said:
I dont think anyone bashed slin back then. I think most people were a little concerned that some young newbie would come on board and say gee that sounds like a great ide to add with my first stack. The shit is dangerous and if that danger is downplayed a newbie might not take caution and jump right into injecting without knowing what the heck they are doing. Therefore it is something I will always talk against not because I dont think that it works and awesomely at that but it is not a beginner thing. There are a lot of guys on here that use it and know what they are doing in here though that I know
I know you have good intent, but you did bomb the shit out of the acneman on that thread.
 
I guess that makes me the old one then.. I didn't start reading the board until I was 36..LOL
MR. BMJ said:
lol...nah, just 30yrs. I started here when I was like 19yrs old.

Here is one of my oldest posts that I could find in the archives:

http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/steroids/1879.html

I was on way before this post though.

Here is the oldest EF post I could find in the archives (Its a reply to an older thread I believe). Again, the site was up and running way before this as well. The beginning posts were part of a message board to where they couldn't be saved:

http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/steroids/1442.html

Kind of weird looking back at this stuff. Those were the good Ol' days...lol.

BMJ
 
Kachunga said:
I know you have good intent, but you did bomb the shit out of the acneman on that thread.
Yes I did but acneman is my bro. Its all in fun. I think he is a good shit and very knowledgeable! He knows this. I always hit him back with all the K ask him.
 
CO B-man said:
Yes I did but acneman is my bro. Its all in fun. I think he is a good shit and very knowledgeable! He knows this. I always hit him back with all the K ask him.
its true but i think you ought to double up on the good karma
i mean replacing the karma dosent make up for the blackout :p

basskiller said:
I guess that makes me the old one then.. I didn't start reading the board until I was 36..LOL
also started at 36 in 2001
 
acneman said:
its true but i think you ought to double up on the good karma
i mean replacing the karma dosent make up for the blackout :p


also started at 36 in 2001


Did I hurt your feelers A-man? lol!
 
Kachunga said:
Hmm, i guess I will go throught it again. For anyone else just joining the thread, I have read acnemans faq at other boards. So based on that, and acnemans 2006 join date, I called him out on it. Nothing ever got personal and no one used capital letters to make their point. He said he did indeed write it, albeit a long time ago. I did some checking and found this to be true. Others have been copy/pasteing his work and not giving credit where credit was due. I told him I was wrong and nice work writing the FAQ.
So yes it is true, I have not been around long enough to make a statement like the one I did, but I retracted it, like weeks ago.
Thanks!
 
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