They failed me on this lift: Please check pic...

[benchmonster]

I posted a proposed set of rules a while back not sure where they ran off too, but it involved the use of no gear at all, you had a sensor on the floor which your butt must come into contact with before you were allowed any white lights at all, and the main focus of the BALA or Boring Ass Lifting Assocation was to put out as many reds as possible, and make sure there were as many bombs as we can get, and as low a total as possible.

Also in my proposed rules was a strict drug testing policy. It was so strict that an accusation of drug use was enough to get you kicked out of the org.

You were also not allowed to train for the events. Anyone caught training would be instantly kicked out of the org. Anyone accused of training would be suspended for one year.

Because the other goal is to just find out who is naturally the strongest. None of this whimpy "training" or "equipment" or "suplementation". What are you people trying to do?

Improve yourself? Not allowed!!!!

Can anyone guess what fed brought on my rant?

(Hint: It was not the High (I)PA)

B.

 

[Deciever]

hmm could it be the USAPL?

 

[IrishPower]

hahaha... ok this thread is turning into fed bashing....

although funny, and i am secretly happy to hear people bash the USAPL, we should really not do this as pointed out earlier by a previous poster. There are people who are able to enjoy the extreme strictness and doping policies. It is not for us to try and take away from these people just as they shouldn't bash equipment and supplementation in the other federations.

I emailed Dave Tate and got clarification of the IPA rules:

3. The lifter must bend the knees and lower the body until the top of the thigh at the hip, NOT the hip joint, is lower than the top of the knee cap.

This seems to comply with the USAPL rules. However, it is my opinion that this is pretty subjective. I mean the top of the thigh is covered with a suit and sometimes the movement is too fast to really be able to know for sure.


I think the bottom line is to find a federation that at least judges consistently. It is also my opinion that state meets and attempts should be judged a little less harshly. I mean who really cares if Joe Bob's 3rd squat was 1" high. It's supposed to be fun right?


Kieran Kidder published an interesting tidbit to PLUSA. He showed two depths. One was the guidelines for a non-world record squat and the other was for a world-record attempt. It was a little stricter. This is kind of a neat idea. But again, it is so subjective.

 

[Lumberg]

I have considered the problem of judging competitive squat depth and I have an idea:

What is to stop an organization from developing some kind of sensor that is attached to the hips and knees? I mean, pick a physiological landmark like the top of some bone or something, and glue a sensor to the skin right before the lift. Then it's a computer that does the judging and not a person. That way no one could complain.

The only obstacle is $.

JC

 

[benchmonster]

I am trying to stop just short of actual federation bashing, and I certainly have nothing but respect for the actual competitors who lift USAPL, IPF, cause God knows I would not put all the work into preparation that is necessary only to be treated that way.

So, to my big friend from the great Northwest, I picked up on the subtle hint not to let my rant get away from me. Thank you.

(Benchmonster has a theory that most of those Sasquatch AKA Bigfoot sightings in Irishpower's area, are actually an unshaven Irishpower!! This is just a theory, I could be wrong)

B.

Oh, and Joncrane, I personally love the idea. I think a beep to indicate you are at parallel and it is OK to come up is a wonderful idea. Some of you techy guys need to get to work on it.

I personally am just an idea guy. You will have do discuss the actual building of such a device with engineering.

B.

 

[BigArnie]

Guys, thanks for all the replies. Should I change federation? Unfortunately, this is not an option in South Africa. We always had two federation here; the IPF and the WPC. This worked out quite neat as all the guys that decided to use dope competed in the WPC and the ones like myself that train natural competed IPF. There were of course some cheaters but this distinction could generally be seen in the difference in poundages lifted between the two, with the WPC being far ahead. A month ago, however, the WPC was disbanded and became part of the IPF, meaning that there is now only one fedreation in South Africa, namely the IPF.

I have mixed feelings about this as it means that local steroid users will have no alternative but to compete in the IPF which will of course make life very hard for poor natural slobs like myself. On the other hand, it does strengthen the sport, as the IPF is by far the biggest powerlifting body in the world, USA excluded.

Joncrane, I've been thinking about what you are suggesting for a long time. If somebody can come up with a practical way of doing this we'll have a perfect way of judging squat depth.

 

[BigArnie]

Irish, its absolutely true what you're saying about it becoming harder to get depth as you become bigger. I mean, I'm a big, tall man with thick legs, gluetes and hips, just like yourself. Suppose I was viewed from the side in a squatting position; the vertical distance from the bottom of the ham to the top of the quad near the hip joint will be at least a few inchs bigger than someone who is equally tall but say 150lb lighter. This means that I've gotta go that much deeper than the other guy to get the top of the quad parallel to the floor. Isn't that a bit unfair if judged only on how close the actual hip joint has to come to the floor?

 

[IrishPower]

B,

When I couldn't squat for awhile, I got this horrible compulsion to shave off all my body hair, sit in a tanning bed and diet. It was terrible. There is evidence of this insanity on growordie.com if you are a resourceful digger, but I cannot, in fear of being ridiculed, point you to it.

I assure you that when I had no body hair and a tan, I was a weak pussy. Ok, maybe teen girls looked at me more, but small consolation prize for having twiggy legs and a normal ass.

Big Arnie:

The guys in the WPC all smoke dope? Man, they must all be fat, lazy, and happy then. Just kidding. Dope in america is aka mary-jane, weed, and about 1000 other references.

Sorry to hear about the federation problem. I posted another thread asking for the story.

/irish

 

[Deciever]

haha irish i've seen those pics... but i'll be nice enough and not post the link up

 

[p03t1c]

IrishPower was a leg shaving, tan getting, tennis watching nancy boy? what is the world coming to? i didn't realize i was getting into a sport like that. i'm returning all of my equipment and switching to a real sport like bowling.