The idiots guide to GHB...

[justwannagetsum]

Call me cold, but I have no pity for those who choose to ruin their lives with addictions of any kind

Well, mabe you could have a little compassion, I have learned to after being around people with addiction problems and getting a job in a rehab.
I dont really want to debate But please at least consider that no one would chose to be an addict, and if they did, they would not chose to continuosly ruin their lives. No reply is needed here but consider this story. A person close to me was diagnosed with childhood migraines at age 7. after lmore conservative attempts,He was given tylox and fiorinal with codeine. Tylox is the same as percoset, fiorinal is a barbiturate with an opiate in one pill. at 7 rs old this person was sure he had finally felt for the 1st time in his life normal and good about himself. after a short time he started to fake his migraines to take the medicine that made him feel a complete person. this kid didnt know what a drug was, he just knew that he always felt uncomfortable in his own skin, and that for once he felt like a whole person if he took his medicine.. At age 13 he started with weed and alcohol, now knowing these were drugs, but why should he feel empty and incomplete when he found a way to feel normal. He eventually got into harder drugs and has done some major damage to himself. He found a better way to deal with his problem eventually and got his life on track. This guy didnt ask to be born feeling this way, never knew why. He is now responsible for keeping his life together. If he fucks it up, it is on him.

 

[Daeo]

I do know people that have had addictions that were close to me. My uncle being one, and my late mother being another. My uncle was lucky. My mother wasn't so fortunate. It still doesn't change my opinions any though.

I'd like to get back on the subject. I think it was GHB wasn't it...

 

[justwannagetsum]

I'd like to get back on the subject. I think it was GHB wasn't it...

sorry, just got sidetracked. wasnt there something about newbies smoking GHB and snorting weed? seriously though bro, Its nice to know there are some mature people on this board who can agree to disagree and not get into stupid little pissing contests. Ill concede, if one must use G, these are good guidelines.......

 

[Daeo]

Another important rule is to keep your GHB in a container which someone else won't unknowingly take the GHB thinking it's something else. I had a friend who kept his GHB in the refridgerator in water bottles for christ sake. A good way to make sure no one accidentally takes it is to color it green with food coloring. There's aren't any drinks that I know of that are green so it's a pretty safe color to dye it. It's pretty hard not tell you've taken GHB once it hits your tounge, but it's still a good precaution to take...

 

[jboldman]

You are wrong, on many points

but as you point out, this is a thread on ghb, we can save the arguments on alcohol for a different forum.

you have no clue! To compare alcohol dependancy to ghb abuse is no contest.

ahem! If alcohol is your drug of choice, then it would be worse for you then GHB. Addiction has many faces. It is each individuals drug of choice that is what is most destructive for them. GHB will physiologically cause dependence quicker then alcohol. But as an alcoholic, if you are a REAL alcoholic, and taking G. Then you will be drinking again in the future. I know it, and you know it. I dont care to argue this point..... take as you like. I really hope I am wrong.

Which doesn't show much self control and therefore is their own fault.
This is a presumptuous statement. Its true, addicts and alcoholics have no slef control with respect to drugs. But how is their own fault? You think they signed up for the " i dont want control over my drinking and using drug " problem. You think obese people with food addictions dont hate their lives. and the really think cheeseburgers and pies are worth their daily bouts of misery and poor self-esteems? They are not in control of their behaviors and hate themselves as a result. Think about this before you sa ppl choose to throw their lives away for whatever reason on whatever addiction. This is not to say that they are not responsible for changing their behaviors, but it is something that ou obviousl dont personally have to overcome. So unless you have been there, dont sit and judge.....

 

[Grainger]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

 

[Fonz]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

Ok, I was going to leave this post alone untiln this
moronic post came along.


Using your neanderthal rationale:

"The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict".

Beautiful. Therefore by your amazing intellectual opinion steroids are also going to make you an addict right?

What about aspirin? Valium? Xanax? Tylenol? Pain-killers?
etc... etc....

Same thing applies to EVERY drug.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Period.

You're just trying to justify your own weakness.

Fonz

 

[Daeo]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

Sorry Grainger but you're still the one who's responsible for your addiction. You can't tell me that you didn't know that using GHB the way it took to become addicted was wrong. Unless someone kidnapped you and forced it down your throat by gunpoint it's your own fault. You chose to use it in such a manner whereas it would become addictive. I can't believe this "imbalance in your brain chemistry" excuse when you know(or should know)that using anything in the duration of time it takes to become addictive is WRONG. Maybe if you only took it once or twice and became addicted I could see your point. But not if you use it everyday for months on end though...

 

[Wombat]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

Finally someone fucking said it. Date rape drug my ass. If you can't tast that shit and distinguish that it's not supposed to be in your drink then something's wrong with you. AND what the fuck is with the media always saying it is an ODORLESS, TASTELESS drug. It smells like shit.

yeah right---tell that to all the 17-18-19 year old chix that go over to TJ to party and end up passed out on the floor not knowing what the fuck hit them.... Order a double teqella shot and you won't taste ghb or 1,4 or gbl in that drink---Go to cancun and order a 20-40oz frozen marg-with salt and tell me if you can taste 5mls of G(aint gonna happen)and in a lot of cases a chick will be out like a light not knowing what hit her.....Now can you taste G in a beer or glass of wine--sure but not everyone drinks the same....So to say this ain't a date rape drug is just flat out wrong...

 

[Daeo]

40oz LOL!!!

yeah right---tell that to all the 17-18-19 year old chix that go over to TJ to party and end up passed out on the floor not knowing what the fuck hit them.... Order a double teqella shot and you won't taste ghb or 1,4 or gbl in that drink---Go to cancun and order a 20-40oz frozen marg-with salt and tell me if you can taste 5mls of G(aint gonna happen)and in a lot of cases a chick will be out like a light not knowing what hit her.....Now can you taste G in a beer or glass of wine--sure but not everyone drinks the same....So to say this ain't a date rape drug is just flat out wrong...

Or you could put 3mls of GHB in a gallon of piss and you wouldn't be able to taste that either...