The idiots guide to GHB...

[Daeo]

Why can't a post about GHB not turn into propaganda? Makes you wonder eh? There are some basic rules you must adhere to while using GHB. If you can't understand that you have to be legally braindead. I'll go over them breifly so no one is confused.

1. Always know the concentration of the GHB you have. If you don't know what the concentration is, how can you properly dose it. And don't give me this "cap" bullshit. Unless you measure the cap out in ML before resorting to the cap method to know how much the cap exactly holds.

2. DON'T OVERDO IT MORON! The main problem with GHB is the "more is better mentality. If one cap is good, then two caps must be twice as good...and three caps must be...

3. Don't mix it with alcohol or other depressants. You deserve what you get if you do.

4. If you do decide to use GHB don't be an idiot and decide to drive a motor vehicle of any kind. Not only are you taking your own life into your hands but other innocent people on the road.

5. Make sure someone knows you're taking GHB. This is just in case you pass out by chance(which you shouldn't. Refer to #2), so that there isn't panic. Most of the trips to the hospital are not needed(unless the idiot consumes a huge amount of G, or mixes it with other depressants).


6. Don't use it 24/7 for months on end. This should be a given with just about everything else in life, but somehow people ignore this rule. Excess is hardly ever a good thing. It will come back to bite you in the ass.

As an end note, I don't know how ANYONE could have GHB slipped into their drink without them knowing it. You'd have to either have a)no taste buds, b)chugged the fucking drink, or c) have someone force the drink down your throat by gunpoint. A good analogy I heard was that if I made a shit sandwich, and someone put GHB on my sandwich unknowingly, I would say "hey, who put GHB on my shit sandwich"...

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

LOl good post for the morons. bro

 

[el cubano]

For once I agree with Polfa!LOL

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

did we argue be4?

 

[el cubano]

Nope. Pay no attention to me. I'm an idiot.

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

LoL ok ..bro whatever... its all good in the juice hood

 

[RdStrcklnd]

All true Daeo, good post.

 

[caiza]

i have drunk alchohol with ghb no probs just dont over do it just have a couple of pints u will b ok as long as u dont take 2 much ghb.

 

[painly]

hmm daeo, i think i might need a sample from my source now, at 300.00 a gallon, i cant afford that addiction.

 

[SamSamSam]

Why can't a post about GHB not turn into propaganda? Makes you wonder eh? There are some basic rules you must adhere to while using GHB. If you can't understand that you have to be legally braindead. I'll go over them breifly so no one is confused.

1. Always know the concentration of the GHB you have. If you don't know what the concentration is, how can you properly dose it. And don't give me this "cap" bullshit. Unless you measure the cap out in ML before resorting to the cap method to know how much the cap exactly holds.

2. DON'T OVERDO IT MORON! The main problem with GHB is the "more is better mentality. If one cap is good, then two caps must be twice as good...and three caps must be...

3. Don't mix it with alcohol or other depressants. You deserve what you get if you do.

4. If you do decide to use GHB don't be an idiot and decide to drive a motor vehicle of any kind. Not only are you taking your own life into your hands but other innocent people on the road.

5. Make sure someone knows you're taking GHB. This is just in case you pass out by chance(which you shouldn't. Refer to #2), so that there isn't panic. Most of the trips to the hospital are not needed(unless the idiot consumes a huge amount of G, or mixes it with other depressants).


6. Don't use it 24/7 for months on end. This should be a given with just about everything else in life, but somehow people ignore this rule. Excess is hardly ever a good thing. It will come back to bite you in the ass.

As an end note, I don't know how ANYONE could have GHB slipped into their drink without them knowing it. You'd have to either have a)no taste buds, b)chugged the fucking drink, or c) have someone force the drink down your throat by gunpoint. A good analogy I heard was that if I made a shit sandwich, and someone put GHB on my sandwich unknowingly, I would say "hey, who put GHB on my shit sandwich"...

anything that has that many rules is bad

 

[pete ferguson]

If rules like that had been followed all along, you could still purchase it at GNC.

 

[Thaibox]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

anything that has that many rules is bad

The list is simply a heads up for the people that rode the short bus to school like yourself. If you have an IQ over 50, using GHB is pretty uncomplicated.

 

[RdStrcklnd]

Agreed, its annoying how people always try to label it as some horribly dangerous drug. I fell sorry that these people can't chill out and enjoy it.

 

[Quadsweep]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

anything that has that many rules is bad

Juice has a whole lotta rules too bro! IMHO you can't just slam a drug out of ignorance and use another drug and condone it without learning about the one you are slamming on first. I have used gear for ten years....no problems. I have used GHB and GBL for 3 years+ Never have I ODed once....why you ask...how can this be you ask?.....because I follow the rules and I know my limitations.......its like Harry Callahan said.."every man has got to know his limitations!" I do!

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

I was just reading how 1-4 butendiol might be very toxic especially for us BB's becouse of its effect son the liver it is metabolized into Gamma-buyterol whatever you spell it sory It however is kind of like methol alcoho... and thus can be toxic...from what ive read i think its wiser to take the direct route and in my oppinion more safe especially for bb's livers and use the gamma-buytero.....whatever you spell it Just my .02 and 1/4

 

[uwanafight2]

who put GHB on my shit sandwich"...

thats fucking funny

 

[SmackDown]

good post for g rookies

 

[Dantes]

"hey, who put GHB on my shit sandwich"...

LMFAO

 

[therookie]

do yourself a favor and STAY AWAY FROM 1,4 BUTANDIOL...It is highly addictave and has a nasty withdrawel when you are coming off it...I was addicted for 4 months on pure1,4 butandiol...It fucked me up bad and needed a lot of meds to come off it.......Please take my advice seriously........Be safe Bro's

MAGZ

 

[Daeo]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

anything that has that many rules is bad

I didn't think my rules were too complicated. Did anyone else with an IQ over 50 think they were???

 

[Daeo]

If rules like that had been followed all along, you could still purchase it at GNC.

Exactly. Way to go idiots...

 

[Daeo]

hmm daeo, i think i might need a sample from my source now, at 300.00 a gallon, i cant afford that addiction.

You don't need a gallon. 1 litre depending on the dilution will do...

 

[Fonz]

I'm shamelessly making this a sticky.

Fonz

 

[Raffaz]

Good post. Ive never used it myself. Dont think i will either, although curiosity might get the better of me someday.

 

[XXXL]

i'm not going to read through all the replies, but #1 is soooo important.

i don't know how many times i've read posts asking what's a good amount to start with and someone dumb ass will say a cap.

now if someone dilutes 500 grams of pure ghb into a 20oz bottle, 1 cap is going to knock you out for at least a week.

 

[muscle_geek]

This is probably a stupid question, but I don't know anything about GHB and I can't find good info. Questions:

What does it do for the partying aspect?
Is GHB and excellent sleep aid?
What are its uses in bodybuilding?

 

[Daeo]

This is probably a stupid question, but I don't know anything about GHB and I can't find good info. Questions:

What does it do for the partying aspect?
Is GHB and excellent sleep aid?
What are its uses in bodybuilding?

GHB makes an excellent alcohol replacement. Dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The common dose for partying is within the 3-5g range. Starting low and working your way up is recommended.

GHB also makes a good sleep aid. Again dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The usual dose is around the 5g+ range. Sleep patterns can change if GHB is used for prolonged periods to sleep though. I wouldn't use it every night to sleep. Only nights where there is a time constraint on your sleep or times when sleeping is a real problem for you.

GHBs bodybuilding uses are a highly debated subject. Some argue that the GH release is significant enough to cause muscle growth/fat loss. I for one don't use it as a direct bodybuilding "aid". Indirectly I guess it is an aid as it allows me to avoid alcohol, which in my opinion is more harmful to the body than GHB...

 

[muscle_geek]

Thanks bro. I'm mainly interested in the alcohol replacement idea. I know I should be disciplined and not need anything, but I do like going out on the weekends. Great post.

 

[Stan Ozolol]

Do you get hangovers from GHB? Or do you wake up energetic , like you havn't drank the night before-?

 

[Daeo]

Do you get hangovers from GHB? Or do you wake up energetic , like you havn't drank the night before-?

Hangovers from GHB are rare. The user usually feels refreshed the day afterwards...

 

[Daeo]

i'm not going to read through all the replies, but #1 is soooo important.

i don't know how many times i've read posts asking what's a good amount to start with and someone dumb ass will say a cap.

now if someone dilutes 500 grams of pure ghb into a 20oz bottle, 1 cap is going to knock you out for at least a week.

And this is where most of the GHB related problems come from. Some asshole at a party hands you a "cap" of something and the already drunk idiot chugs it down not knowing a damn thing about what he just took. And suddenly GHB is the cause of the problem. Not the irresponsible user...

 

[deadend226]

As an end note, I don't know how ANYONE could have GHB slipped into their drink without them knowing it. You'd have to either have a)no taste buds, b)chugged the fucking drink, or c) have someone force the drink down your throat by gunpoint. A good analogy I heard was that if I made a shit sandwich, and someone put GHB on my sandwich unknowingly, I would say "hey, who put GHB on my shit sandwich"...

Finally someone fucking said it. Date rape drug my ass. If you can't tast that shit and distinguish that it's not supposed to be in your drink then something's wrong with you. AND what the fuck is with the media always saying it is an ODORLESS, TASTELESS drug. It smells like shit.

 

[CYPRIOSQUATS]

Good post!

 

[FreakMonster]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

Finally someone fucking said it. Date rape drug my ass. If you can't tast that shit and distinguish that it's not supposed to be in your drink then something's wrong with you. AND what the fuck is with the media always saying it is an ODORLESS, TASTELESS drug. It smells like shit.

You mean it TASTES LIKE SHIT!!

 

[FreakMonster]

7) Never ever give GHB to someone at a party. You never know if they have been drinking or will drink with it. You end up giving it to someone and they die, then your fucked.

8) Always measure GHB with a syringe (without the needle) so you know exactly how much you are taking.

 

[Daeo]

7) Never ever give GHB to someone at a party. You never know if they have been drinking or will drink with it. You end up giving it to someone and they die, then your fucked.

8) Always measure GHB with a syringe (without the needle) so you know exactly how much you are taking.

Very good points also. Especially the one about not giving GHB to anyone at a party. #8 goes back to my first point about GHB usage. ALWAYS know how much you are taking...

 

[Thaibox]

Thanks Fonz for making this a sticky. I'm tired of ignorant turds ranting about the horrors of GHB.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Daeo, would you email me, por favor? [email protected]. Thankya.

 

[solidspine]

I must respectively disagree,

GHB is simply too dangerous, you never know the concentration and after you have had a few caps it is too easy to have a glass of wine, next thing you know your in the ER.

Use to love it now won’t touch it!

 

[littleswoll]

Good post I wish one of my friends would've listened to me when I laid the rules out for him. He didn't listen and paid for it big time.

 

[Thaibox]

I must respectively disagree,

GHB is simply too dangerous, you never know the concentration and after you have had a few caps it is too easy to have a glass of wine, next thing you know your in the ER.

Use to love it now won’t touch it!

If you don't know the concentration, you take a very small amount and adjust accordingly.

Its too easy to have a glass of wine?? If you know you shouldn't drink on it, you don't drink on it. Thats the same as saying "its too easy to drive after you've been drinking." Bullshit, I spent two years getting shit faced 4-5 times a week, and never once drove while under the influence at all, no matter how fucked up and irrational I was. I've taken G many times, and I've never drank on it, because I have a brain. Simple concept.

 

[justwannagetsum]

Indirectly I guess it is an aid as it allows me to avoid alcohol, which in my opinion is more harmful to the body than GHB...

Now thats ridiculous. G will cause physicalk dependence much quicker then alcohol, and detox complications are much more frequent. Of course if used in moderation, then this would be true.

On another note. AAnyone who is easil addicted to psychotropic drugs, should not attempt to start GHB and try to moderate. If you cant moderate weed, or alcohol or xanax or whatever, dont tr G.

 

[Hollywood ultragainz]

 

[Daeo]

I must respectively disagree,

GHB is simply too dangerous, you never know the concentration and after you have had a few caps it is too easy to have a glass of wine, next thing you know your in the ER.

Use to love it now won’t touch it!

This is exactly why I took the time to write this thread. The only way that you "never know the concentration" is if you are with a bunch of meatheads at a party and they tell you to take it. Even then you'd think that you'd have enough common sense to ask what it is. If they don't know then there's no way in hell I'd be taking it. You think GHB is dangerous yet you don't want to adhere to some simple rules. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what I have outlined. And saying that it's too easy to drink while on GHB demostrates no discipline or self control...

 

[Daeo]

If you don't know the concentration, you take a very small amount and adjust accordingly.

Its too easy to have a glass of wine?? If you know you shouldn't drink on it, you don't drink on it. Thats the same as saying "its too easy to drive after you've been drinking." Bullshit, I spent two years getting shit faced 4-5 times a week, and never once drove while under the influence at all, no matter how fucked up and irrational I was. I've taken G many times, and I've never drank on it, because I have a brain. Simple concept.

Thank you...

 

[Daeo]

Indirectly I guess it is an aid as it allows me to avoid alcohol, which in my opinion is more harmful to the body than GHB...

Now thats ridiculous. G will cause physicalk dependence much quicker then alcohol, and detox complications are much more frequent. Of course if used in moderation, then this would be true.

On another note. AAnyone who is easil addicted to psychotropic drugs, should not attempt to start GHB and try to moderate. If you cant moderate weed, or alcohol or xanax or whatever, dont tr G.

I always emphasize moderation. This is only my opinion and I know some will argue with me(mostly people who were previously addicted to one substance or another), but dependence on any kind of drug is the fault of the user and not the drug. Most chemical dependencies take time. This means the user has to take the drug for long durations. Which doesn't show much self control and therefore is their own fault. A good analogy I've used before is using obese people as an example. Obese people didn't get fat by eating one cheeseburger, it took time. Therefore they knew the path which they were going down and is not the foods fault. If people used their heads more and stopped blaming everything else for their own shortcoming we'd see alot less "oh woe is me" in this world...

 

[jboldman]

you have no clue! To compare alcohol dependancy to ghb abuse is no contest. Try getting addicted to alcohol and then kicking the habit. Total bullshit! I was an alcoholic for 15years and almost lost my l life and family before I managed to kick the habit. I can easily manage ghb with NO problem! I am in no way recommending ghb since I believe that most are using it in a manner that begs abuse but compared to alcohol ghb is minor league!

Indirectly I guess it is an aid as it allows me to avoid alcohol, which in my opinion is more harmful to the body than GHB...

Now thats ridiculous. G will cause physicalk dependence much quicker then alcohol, and detox complications are much more frequent. Of course if used in moderation, then this would be true.

On another note. AAnyone who is easil addicted to psychotropic drugs, should not attempt to start GHB and try to moderate. If you cant moderate weed, or alcohol or xanax or whatever, dont tr G.

 

[justwannagetsum]

you have no clue! To compare alcohol dependancy to ghb abuse is no contest.

ahem! If alcohol is your drug of choice, then it would be worse for you then GHB. Addiction has many faces. It is each individuals drug of choice that is what is most destructive for them. GHB will physiologically cause dependence quicker then alcohol. But as an alcoholic, if you are a REAL alcoholic, and taking G. Then you will be drinking again in the future. I know it, and you know it. I dont care to argue this point..... take as you like. I really hope I am wrong.

Which doesn't show much self control and therefore is their own fault.
This is a presumptuous statement. Its true, addicts and alcoholics have no slef control with respect to drugs. But how is their own fault? You think they signed up for the " i dont want control over my drinking and using drug " problem. You think obese people with food addictions dont hate their lives. and the really think cheeseburgers and pies are worth their daily bouts of misery and poor self-esteems? They are not in control of their behaviors and hate themselves as a result. Think about this before you sa ppl choose to throw their lives away for whatever reason on whatever addiction. This is not to say that they are not responsible for changing their behaviors, but it is something that ou obviousl dont personally have to overcome. So unless you have been there, dont sit and judge.....

 

[Daeo]

This is a presumptuous statement. Its true, addicts and alcoholics have no slef control with respect to drugs. But how is their own fault? You think they signed up for the " i dont want control over my drinking and using drug " problem. You think obese people with food addictions dont hate their lives. and the really think cheeseburgers and pies are worth their daily bouts of misery and poor self-esteems? They are not in control of their behaviors and hate themselves as a result. Think about this before you sa ppl choose to throw their lives away for whatever reason on whatever addiction. This is not to say that they are not responsible for changing their behaviors, but it is something that ou obviousl dont personally have to overcome. So unless you have been there, dont sit and judge..... [/B]

Self control isn't something you are necessarily born with. And it doesn't come in a pill either. Self control is the difference between usage and abuse. It's really not a hard concept. Most excesses lead to bad things. Call me cold, but I have no pity for those who choose to ruin their lives with addictions of any kind. You chose to use a substance(whether it be food, GHB, cocaine, etc)to the point where it became addictive. There is no such thing as an overnight addict. By now everyone knows that drinking everyday will lead to alcoholism. Everyone knows that using cocaine everyday will lead to addiction. Everyone knows that eating large quantaties of food for long periods of time with no exercise will lead to obesity. I don't think this is a hard concept to grasp. This isn't about judging people, it's about using your head for something more than growing hair on...

 

[Polfa/Jelfa]

Daeo....bro great comment sto all these " Its too dangerous we should not have to use our brains we are stupid lazy bastards" people.. I love this country however truthfully 1/2 of the population here needs to learn some responsibility and common sense as well as judgment. For ex. if i take my glue and sniff it and die... should my shomeker not be allowed to use glue to glueu the sides of shoes and etc.... for my stupidity....if i drink and drive and caouse an accident and am that stupid..should alcohol be illegal...YOU STUPID ASS FUCKS NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Sory for the language..i jsu tgot home from leg workout and MY COW STOCK is growing very well.. Cows are alitle bitchy lately though

THumb sup to Daeo for responding to so many Braindead ans ignorant people.

 

[justwannagetsum]

Call me cold, but I have no pity for those who choose to ruin their lives with addictions of any kind

Well, mabe you could have a little compassion, I have learned to after being around people with addiction problems and getting a job in a rehab.
I dont really want to debate But please at least consider that no one would chose to be an addict, and if they did, they would not chose to continuosly ruin their lives. No reply is needed here but consider this story. A person close to me was diagnosed with childhood migraines at age 7. after lmore conservative attempts,He was given tylox and fiorinal with codeine. Tylox is the same as percoset, fiorinal is a barbiturate with an opiate in one pill. at 7 rs old this person was sure he had finally felt for the 1st time in his life normal and good about himself. after a short time he started to fake his migraines to take the medicine that made him feel a complete person. this kid didnt know what a drug was, he just knew that he always felt uncomfortable in his own skin, and that for once he felt like a whole person if he took his medicine.. At age 13 he started with weed and alcohol, now knowing these were drugs, but why should he feel empty and incomplete when he found a way to feel normal. He eventually got into harder drugs and has done some major damage to himself. He found a better way to deal with his problem eventually and got his life on track. This guy didnt ask to be born feeling this way, never knew why. He is now responsible for keeping his life together. If he fucks it up, it is on him.

 

[Daeo]

I do know people that have had addictions that were close to me. My uncle being one, and my late mother being another. My uncle was lucky. My mother wasn't so fortunate. It still doesn't change my opinions any though.

I'd like to get back on the subject. I think it was GHB wasn't it...

 

[justwannagetsum]

I'd like to get back on the subject. I think it was GHB wasn't it...

sorry, just got sidetracked. wasnt there something about newbies smoking GHB and snorting weed? seriously though bro, Its nice to know there are some mature people on this board who can agree to disagree and not get into stupid little pissing contests. Ill concede, if one must use G, these are good guidelines.......

 

[Daeo]

Another important rule is to keep your GHB in a container which someone else won't unknowingly take the GHB thinking it's something else. I had a friend who kept his GHB in the refridgerator in water bottles for christ sake. A good way to make sure no one accidentally takes it is to color it green with food coloring. There's aren't any drinks that I know of that are green so it's a pretty safe color to dye it. It's pretty hard not tell you've taken GHB once it hits your tounge, but it's still a good precaution to take...

 

[jboldman]

You are wrong, on many points

but as you point out, this is a thread on ghb, we can save the arguments on alcohol for a different forum.

you have no clue! To compare alcohol dependancy to ghb abuse is no contest.

ahem! If alcohol is your drug of choice, then it would be worse for you then GHB. Addiction has many faces. It is each individuals drug of choice that is what is most destructive for them. GHB will physiologically cause dependence quicker then alcohol. But as an alcoholic, if you are a REAL alcoholic, and taking G. Then you will be drinking again in the future. I know it, and you know it. I dont care to argue this point..... take as you like. I really hope I am wrong.

Which doesn't show much self control and therefore is their own fault.
This is a presumptuous statement. Its true, addicts and alcoholics have no slef control with respect to drugs. But how is their own fault? You think they signed up for the " i dont want control over my drinking and using drug " problem. You think obese people with food addictions dont hate their lives. and the really think cheeseburgers and pies are worth their daily bouts of misery and poor self-esteems? They are not in control of their behaviors and hate themselves as a result. Think about this before you sa ppl choose to throw their lives away for whatever reason on whatever addiction. This is not to say that they are not responsible for changing their behaviors, but it is something that ou obviousl dont personally have to overcome. So unless you have been there, dont sit and judge.....

 

[Grainger]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

 

[Fonz]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

Ok, I was going to leave this post alone untiln this
moronic post came along.


Using your neanderthal rationale:

"The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict".

Beautiful. Therefore by your amazing intellectual opinion steroids are also going to make you an addict right?

What about aspirin? Valium? Xanax? Tylenol? Pain-killers?
etc... etc....

Same thing applies to EVERY drug.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Period.

You're just trying to justify your own weakness.

Fonz

 

[Daeo]

Daeo,

People talk about have self control when using GHB.....

You don't get it!!!.....nobody thinks that they are going to get addicted to a drug. Everyone uses thinking that they are "in control".....at a certain point, some people become addicts and some do not.

The point is....you don't know if you are going to be one of those people until it is too late. The brain is VERY powerful and addiction has to do with an imbalance in the brain chemistry. You might not be able to fully comprehend the power of addiction or really understand it because your brain chemistry is not dispositioned to becoming an addict.

BUT, I think that if you were not so fucking dense, you might be able to at least understand what I am saying to you on an academic level!

The rest of your post was "ok".

Sorry Grainger but you're still the one who's responsible for your addiction. You can't tell me that you didn't know that using GHB the way it took to become addicted was wrong. Unless someone kidnapped you and forced it down your throat by gunpoint it's your own fault. You chose to use it in such a manner whereas it would become addictive. I can't believe this "imbalance in your brain chemistry" excuse when you know(or should know)that using anything in the duration of time it takes to become addictive is WRONG. Maybe if you only took it once or twice and became addicted I could see your point. But not if you use it everyday for months on end though...

 

[Wombat]

Re: Re: The idiots guide to GHB...

Finally someone fucking said it. Date rape drug my ass. If you can't tast that shit and distinguish that it's not supposed to be in your drink then something's wrong with you. AND what the fuck is with the media always saying it is an ODORLESS, TASTELESS drug. It smells like shit.

yeah right---tell that to all the 17-18-19 year old chix that go over to TJ to party and end up passed out on the floor not knowing what the fuck hit them.... Order a double teqella shot and you won't taste ghb or 1,4 or gbl in that drink---Go to cancun and order a 20-40oz frozen marg-with salt and tell me if you can taste 5mls of G(aint gonna happen)and in a lot of cases a chick will be out like a light not knowing what hit her.....Now can you taste G in a beer or glass of wine--sure but not everyone drinks the same....So to say this ain't a date rape drug is just flat out wrong...

 

[Daeo]

40oz LOL!!!

yeah right---tell that to all the 17-18-19 year old chix that go over to TJ to party and end up passed out on the floor not knowing what the fuck hit them.... Order a double teqella shot and you won't taste ghb or 1,4 or gbl in that drink---Go to cancun and order a 20-40oz frozen marg-with salt and tell me if you can taste 5mls of G(aint gonna happen)and in a lot of cases a chick will be out like a light not knowing what hit her.....Now can you taste G in a beer or glass of wine--sure but not everyone drinks the same....So to say this ain't a date rape drug is just flat out wrong...

Or you could put 3mls of GHB in a gallon of piss and you wouldn't be able to taste that either...

 

[juggernaut7]

nice to see...

...some open minds on this board vs the usual brainless flock of sheep else where..heh!

 

[M56M]

All i know is that GHB almost killed me. Shit happens, I know. and people make stupid mistakes but in all honesty is it really worth it? Becuase when i was in the ICU hooked up to a respirator i really didn't think so. No one made me drink it, i did it myself, but in reality you really don't know what the fuck the concentration is. I didn't even drink that much, all i know is that i was 2 weeks in the hostpital with about a 50% chance of living. Worth it? I think not. Shit happens but you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN.

M56M

 

[renin]

...some open minds on this board vs the usual brainless flock of sheep else where..heh

 

[Thaibox]

All i know is that GHB almost killed me. Shit happens, I know. and people make stupid mistakes but in all honesty is it really worth it? Becuase when i was in the ICU hooked up to a respirator i really didn't think so. No one made me drink it, i did it myself, but in reality you really don't know what the fuck the concentration is. I didn't even drink that much, all i know is that i was 2 weeks in the hostpital with about a 50% chance of living. Worth it? I think not. Shit happens but you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN.

M56M

Shit happens, true. But shit happens more to dipshits.

I have spent hundreds of hours at the shooting range. How many times have I had any sort of accident? Zero. Because I used my damn head and respected my firearms no matter how experienced I was in using them.

Again, you are blaming the drug for what happened. Like I said before, if you didn't know the damn concentration, its your fault for not figuring it out. When you hop onto the fastest production road bike and crank the throttle, you flip and land on your ass because you didn't start slow.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, but don't add to the abundance of unqualified negativity here. If I shot myself in the foot because I didn't know I was using a super light trigger. I'd feel pretty fucking stupid.

 

[M56M]

Shit happens, true. But shit happens more to dipshits.

I have spent hundreds of hours at the shooting range. How many times have I had any sort of accident? Zero. Because I used my damn head and respected my firearms no matter how experienced I was in using them.

Again, you are blaming the drug for what happened. Like I said before, if you didn't know the damn concentration, its your fault for not figuring it out. When you hop onto the fastest production road bike and crank the throttle, you flip and land on your ass because you didn't start slow.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, but don't add to the abundance of unqualified negativity here. If I shot myself in the foot because I didn't know I was using a super light trigger. I'd feel pretty fucking stupid.

Don't get me wrong, i KNOW it was MY mistake...100%. But i have had ALOT of friends that have ended up in the hostptal over GHB and they are not dipshits. Shit happens, and mistakes are made, what i am saying is i don't think GHB is worth it. Just my opinion. You have yours and i have mine. TO each is his own, if you want to try it, go for it, just giving my experience, and opinion.

M56M

 

[Friendlyfitman]

homemade GHB

I have some pure gamma-butyrolactone which is 99% grade with no bitron. I am thinking about making some homemade GHb.
Any suggestions in terms of a recipe?

 

[johnboy]

Is it good for body building or just a buzz ?

 

[Daeo]

Re: homemade GHB

I have some pure gamma-butyrolactone which is 99% grade with no bitron. I am thinking about making some homemade GHb.
Any suggestions in terms of a recipe?

Go to www.erowid.com ...

 

[Daeo]

All i know is that GHB almost killed me. Shit happens, I know. and people make stupid mistakes but in all honesty is it really worth it? Becuase when i was in the ICU hooked up to a respirator i really didn't think so. No one made me drink it, i did it myself, but in reality you really don't know what the fuck the concentration is. I didn't even drink that much, all i know is that i was 2 weeks in the hostpital with about a 50% chance of living. Worth it? I think not. Shit happens but you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN.

M56M

When you buy it off of a well know trusted source, or make it yourself you do know the concentration. Which is the only way that I will take GHB...

 

[Fonz]

Sorry Grainger but you're still the one who's responsible for your addiction. You can't tell me that you didn't know that using GHB the way it took to become addicted was wrong. Unless someone kidnapped you and forced it down your throat by gunpoint it's your own fault. You chose to use it in such a manner whereas it would become addictive. I can't believe this "imbalance in your brain chemistry" excuse when you know(or should know)that using anything in the duration of time it takes to become addictive is WRONG. Maybe if you only took it once or twice and became addicted I could see your point. But not if you use it everyday for months on end though...

To put the final nail in Grainger's coffin.....

Heroin, one of the main reasons why it is so ADDICTIVE(We all know this) , is because it has METABOLITES!!!!

The body BEGINS to DEPEND on these metabolites.

These metabolites are the reason why heroin withdrawal is
an AWFUL experience to go through.

Well guess what? GHB HAS NO METABOLITES!!!!

Now, off with you.

Fonz

 

[Daeo]

...

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Daeo, I gotta agree with you on everything except 'there is no such thing as the overnight addict'. Crack is instant. I was addicted to crack and I can tell everyone here and now that GHB, even in the hands of an idiot, does not have the teeth that crack does. Anyway, to the point...

The tale of the near death experience from GHB is interesting. I find it difficult to reconcile the two weeks of assisted respiration with the known rate of GHB breakdown in the body. Makes me wonder what else was involved. For example, did the initial attending paramedics accurately pinpoint the cause of respiratory distress? If not, they could easily have administered any number of medications that would complicate the problem. The dose is also a question here. As the dose of GHB increases, the 'state of unarousbility' deepens, and SHORTENS, to about sixty to ninety minutes in a case of one gentleman who ingested 75 GRAMS at one sitting and LIVED. No brain damage whatsoever. I understand there was assisted respiration, but that story is actually in conflict in that regard. However, in her testimony at the hearing to shcedule the drug the lead medical adversary was forced to admit under oath that in over 20 years of professional medical experience she had not witnessed a SINGLE GHB DEATH. Even the term GHB POISONING is a misnomer. Anyway, I would bet that in the story posted above, the REAL threat to the gentleman's life was ignorance. Perhaps he would be kind enough to post the details?

 

[muscle4u]

found this link helpful

http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/ghb.php



backs up Daeo and

even gives info on how to treat victim til paramedics arrive when dumba$$Es use it wrong!

 

[Daeo]

Daeo, I gotta agree with you on everything except 'there is no such thing as the overnight addict'. Crack is instant. I was addicted to crack and I can tell everyone here and now that GHB, even in the hands of an idiot, does not have the teeth that crack does. Anyway, to the point...

The tale of the near death experience from GHB is interesting. I find it difficult to reconcile the two weeks of assisted respiration with the known rate of GHB breakdown in the body. Makes me wonder what else was involved. For example, did the initial attending paramedics accurately pinpoint the cause of respiratory distress? If not, they could easily have administered any number of medications that would complicate the problem. The dose is also a question here. As the dose of GHB increases, the 'state of unarousbility' deepens, and SHORTENS, to about sixty to ninety minutes in a case of one gentleman who ingested 75 GRAMS at one sitting and LIVED. No brain damage whatsoever. I understand there was assisted respiration, but that story is actually in conflict in that regard. However, in her testimony at the hearing to shcedule the drug the lead medical adversary was forced to admit under oath that in over 20 years of professional medical experience she had not witnessed a SINGLE GHB DEATH. Even the term GHB POISONING is a misnomer. Anyway, I would bet that in the story posted above, the REAL threat to the gentleman's life was ignorance. Perhaps he would be kind enough to post the details?

Never done crack before. But I still find it hard to believe after only a few hits that you're hooked for life.

I agree with what you say. But you're asking questions which will never be answered. Only because they're not looking for answers. Only pointing fingers and not looking at the root of the problem. People have an easier time blaming a substance than they're own short comings...

 

[MrP]

GHB makes an excellent alcohol replacement. Dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The common dose for partying is within the 3-5g range. Starting low and working your way up is recommended.

GHB also makes a good sleep aid. Again dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The usual dose is around the 5g+ range. Sleep patterns can change if GHB is used for prolonged periods to sleep though. I wouldn't use it every night to sleep. Only nights where there is a time constraint on your sleep or times when sleeping is a real problem for you.

Whoa whoa whoa! That is WAYYYYY to much. Maybe you mean mL? (at a ~1g/5mL concentration). 0.75-1.5 grams is the range you want to be looking at if your going to party. If you wanna be knocked out take around 2.5g. 3-5 grams is too much in any situation me thinks.

New rule: dont take 3-5 grams unless you want to be knocked on your ass (and then wake up a few hours later without being able to get back to sleep).

 

[MrP]

I have a few questions, hopefully not a stupid ones. I have read that taking GHB can increase your GH levels up to 15X (most likely it wont get near that level im thinking). I am not familiar with GH... What are the approx levels of GH when you inject (injecting GH with your AS i mean) in relation to normal GH levels? I assume they are much higher than 15X. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Also, a woman I know want to try it but is worried of side effects of hieghtened GH levels. Is this something to worry about? She is worried about growin an extra elbow perhaps...

 

[Daeo]

Whoa whoa whoa! That is WAYYYYY to much. Maybe you mean mL? (at a ~1g/5mL concentration). 0.75-1.5 grams is the range you want to be looking at if your going to party. If you wanna be knocked out take around 2.5g. 3-5 grams is too much in any situation me thinks.

New rule: dont take 3-5 grams unless you want to be knocked on your ass (and then wake up a few hours later without being able to get back to sleep).

My girlfriend takes 3g of GHB for recreational purposes and is fine. I take 3-5g regularly with no problems at all. You must have a severely low bodyweight for 3g to knock you out. Maybe I should say 2-4g to be more conservative. 1g is a waste of GHB in my opinion. If you feel anything off of 1g you'd have to be a 80lb boy who hasn't eaten in days. As I said before, start low and see where you feel best at.

And unless you've been using GHB for extended periods of time then your sleep patterns shouldn't be disrupted from a single dose. You're not supposed to use it everyday remember???

 

[Rémy!]

Chemically Correct
by Par Deus

http://www.avantlabs.com/issue2/chemically_correct_ghb.htm

GHB and bodybuilding.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Daeo--

You take 5 grams of GHB and stay conscious? I must be very sensitive to the effects. If I have something distilled at 20g/oz, it only takes 5ml to knock me out...and then fairly quickly. I wonder if body composition plays a role?

I notice that as I lean down, I can actually take a larger dose, although I weigh less.

I have never stayed conscious after a 5g single dosing...it is, in fact, my 'personal foolproof sleep inducing dose', if you will.

Also, how can you afford this stuff if it takes 5 grams a whack to get you somewhere?

 

[TraxZBT]

My girlfriend takes 3g of GHB for recreational purposes and is fine. I take 3-5g regularly with no problems at all. You must have a severely low bodyweight for 3g to knock you out. Maybe I should say 2-4g to be more conservative. 1g is a waste of GHB in my opinion. If you feel anything off of 1g you'd have to be a 80lb boy who hasn't eaten in days. As I said before, start low and see where you feel best at.

And unless you've been using GHB for extended periods of time then your sleep patterns shouldn't be disrupted from a single dose. You're not supposed to use it everyday remember???

not true! Ever since i've started taking GHB (actually GBL) my tolerance has gone DOWN. At first, 2.5 ml which is approximately 4 grams of GHB fucked me up. After around the 4th month. 1 ml of GBL (1.6 Grams of GHB) fucked me up and i'd pass out even with that dose(and i'm 205lbs). I guess it all depends on setting. If u take GHB and are in a quiet, cozy warm room-- your bound to pass out on any dose.

 

[slimz]

I just got some liqiud g a while back. But it doea not taste salty like it is suppose to. Instead it has a real chemical taste. and has a strong plastic like smell to it.
Anyone had this kind before?
Tried it once and it did work the smae way axcept for the real bad taste. Had to mix it with cranberry juice to try to kill the taste.

 

[Daeo]

I just got some liqiud g a while back. But it doea not taste salty like it is suppose to. Instead it has a real chemical taste. and has a strong plastic like smell to it.
Anyone had this kind before?
Tried it once and it did work the smae way axcept for the real bad taste. Had to mix it with cranberry juice to try to kill the taste.

You either have GBL or 1,4 butandiol...

 

[Daeo]

Daeo--

You take 5 grams of GHB and stay conscious? I must be very sensitive to the effects. If I have something distilled at 20g/oz, it only takes 5ml to knock me out...and then fairly quickly. I wonder if body composition plays a role?

I notice that as I lean down, I can actually take a larger dose, although I weigh less.

I have never stayed conscious after a 5g single dosing...it is, in fact, my 'personal foolproof sleep inducing dose', if you will.

Also, how can you afford this stuff if it takes 5 grams a whack to get you somewhere?

Yep. It takes around 6-7g to induce sleep with me. Everyone is different though. I always recommend starting low and working your way up. Body composition plays a major role in my opinion. The way GHB makes you feel does interact with other substances in your body. For instance how much carbohydrates that are in your system will effect you buzz.

I'm not a very large guy 6' 235lbs an relatively low bodyfat. I just may be able to process it better than others for some reason. Kind of a double edged sword I guess. On one hand it takes more to get me feeling good. But on the other hand if I do take too much by accident I have a better chance than others I guess.

Also I don't take 5g per serving. That would be suicide. I take an initial dose of around 5g and then take a gram or two here and there to sustain my buzz. I've never overdone it and never have G'd out yet in almost two years...

 

[Fukkenshredded]

That explains it--I weigh about 175, 180...depending on how lean I am...which is always under 8% at my fattest.

 

[MrP]

I just got some liqiud g a while back. But it doea not taste salty like it is suppose to. Instead it has a real chemical taste. and has a strong plastic like smell to it.
Anyone had this kind before?
Tried it once and it did work the smae way axcept for the real bad taste. Had to mix it with cranberry juice to try to kill the taste.

I have never actually tasted GBH made from KOH, but from what I have heard it tastes similar to what you have described, I could be wrong though. It's just made with potassium instead of sodium. This is usually considered better for you (not that either are BAD for you) because you body doesnt lack sodium, but often lacks potassium.