The idiots guide to GHB...

[Daeo]

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[Fukkenshredded]

Daeo, I gotta agree with you on everything except 'there is no such thing as the overnight addict'. Crack is instant. I was addicted to crack and I can tell everyone here and now that GHB, even in the hands of an idiot, does not have the teeth that crack does. Anyway, to the point...

The tale of the near death experience from GHB is interesting. I find it difficult to reconcile the two weeks of assisted respiration with the known rate of GHB breakdown in the body. Makes me wonder what else was involved. For example, did the initial attending paramedics accurately pinpoint the cause of respiratory distress? If not, they could easily have administered any number of medications that would complicate the problem. The dose is also a question here. As the dose of GHB increases, the 'state of unarousbility' deepens, and SHORTENS, to about sixty to ninety minutes in a case of one gentleman who ingested 75 GRAMS at one sitting and LIVED. No brain damage whatsoever. I understand there was assisted respiration, but that story is actually in conflict in that regard. However, in her testimony at the hearing to shcedule the drug the lead medical adversary was forced to admit under oath that in over 20 years of professional medical experience she had not witnessed a SINGLE GHB DEATH. Even the term GHB POISONING is a misnomer. Anyway, I would bet that in the story posted above, the REAL threat to the gentleman's life was ignorance. Perhaps he would be kind enough to post the details?

 

[muscle4u]

found this link helpful

http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/ghb.php



backs up Daeo and

even gives info on how to treat victim til paramedics arrive when dumba$$Es use it wrong!

 

[Daeo]

Daeo, I gotta agree with you on everything except 'there is no such thing as the overnight addict'. Crack is instant. I was addicted to crack and I can tell everyone here and now that GHB, even in the hands of an idiot, does not have the teeth that crack does. Anyway, to the point...

The tale of the near death experience from GHB is interesting. I find it difficult to reconcile the two weeks of assisted respiration with the known rate of GHB breakdown in the body. Makes me wonder what else was involved. For example, did the initial attending paramedics accurately pinpoint the cause of respiratory distress? If not, they could easily have administered any number of medications that would complicate the problem. The dose is also a question here. As the dose of GHB increases, the 'state of unarousbility' deepens, and SHORTENS, to about sixty to ninety minutes in a case of one gentleman who ingested 75 GRAMS at one sitting and LIVED. No brain damage whatsoever. I understand there was assisted respiration, but that story is actually in conflict in that regard. However, in her testimony at the hearing to shcedule the drug the lead medical adversary was forced to admit under oath that in over 20 years of professional medical experience she had not witnessed a SINGLE GHB DEATH. Even the term GHB POISONING is a misnomer. Anyway, I would bet that in the story posted above, the REAL threat to the gentleman's life was ignorance. Perhaps he would be kind enough to post the details?

Never done crack before. But I still find it hard to believe after only a few hits that you're hooked for life.

I agree with what you say. But you're asking questions which will never be answered. Only because they're not looking for answers. Only pointing fingers and not looking at the root of the problem. People have an easier time blaming a substance than they're own short comings...

 

[MrP]

GHB makes an excellent alcohol replacement. Dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The common dose for partying is within the 3-5g range. Starting low and working your way up is recommended.

GHB also makes a good sleep aid. Again dose is dependent on bodyweight and stomach fullness. The usual dose is around the 5g+ range. Sleep patterns can change if GHB is used for prolonged periods to sleep though. I wouldn't use it every night to sleep. Only nights where there is a time constraint on your sleep or times when sleeping is a real problem for you.

Whoa whoa whoa! That is WAYYYYY to much. Maybe you mean mL? (at a ~1g/5mL concentration). 0.75-1.5 grams is the range you want to be looking at if your going to party. If you wanna be knocked out take around 2.5g. 3-5 grams is too much in any situation me thinks.

New rule: dont take 3-5 grams unless you want to be knocked on your ass (and then wake up a few hours later without being able to get back to sleep).

 

[MrP]

I have a few questions, hopefully not a stupid ones. I have read that taking GHB can increase your GH levels up to 15X (most likely it wont get near that level im thinking). I am not familiar with GH... What are the approx levels of GH when you inject (injecting GH with your AS i mean) in relation to normal GH levels? I assume they are much higher than 15X. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Also, a woman I know want to try it but is worried of side effects of hieghtened GH levels. Is this something to worry about? She is worried about growin an extra elbow perhaps...

 

[Daeo]

Whoa whoa whoa! That is WAYYYYY to much. Maybe you mean mL? (at a ~1g/5mL concentration). 0.75-1.5 grams is the range you want to be looking at if your going to party. If you wanna be knocked out take around 2.5g. 3-5 grams is too much in any situation me thinks.

New rule: dont take 3-5 grams unless you want to be knocked on your ass (and then wake up a few hours later without being able to get back to sleep).

My girlfriend takes 3g of GHB for recreational purposes and is fine. I take 3-5g regularly with no problems at all. You must have a severely low bodyweight for 3g to knock you out. Maybe I should say 2-4g to be more conservative. 1g is a waste of GHB in my opinion. If you feel anything off of 1g you'd have to be a 80lb boy who hasn't eaten in days. As I said before, start low and see where you feel best at.

And unless you've been using GHB for extended periods of time then your sleep patterns shouldn't be disrupted from a single dose. You're not supposed to use it everyday remember???

 

[Rémy!]

Chemically Correct
by Par Deus

http://www.avantlabs.com/issue2/chemically_correct_ghb.htm

GHB and bodybuilding.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Daeo--

You take 5 grams of GHB and stay conscious? I must be very sensitive to the effects. If I have something distilled at 20g/oz, it only takes 5ml to knock me out...and then fairly quickly. I wonder if body composition plays a role?

I notice that as I lean down, I can actually take a larger dose, although I weigh less.

I have never stayed conscious after a 5g single dosing...it is, in fact, my 'personal foolproof sleep inducing dose', if you will.

Also, how can you afford this stuff if it takes 5 grams a whack to get you somewhere?

 

[TraxZBT]

My girlfriend takes 3g of GHB for recreational purposes and is fine. I take 3-5g regularly with no problems at all. You must have a severely low bodyweight for 3g to knock you out. Maybe I should say 2-4g to be more conservative. 1g is a waste of GHB in my opinion. If you feel anything off of 1g you'd have to be a 80lb boy who hasn't eaten in days. As I said before, start low and see where you feel best at.

And unless you've been using GHB for extended periods of time then your sleep patterns shouldn't be disrupted from a single dose. You're not supposed to use it everyday remember???

not true! Ever since i've started taking GHB (actually GBL) my tolerance has gone DOWN. At first, 2.5 ml which is approximately 4 grams of GHB fucked me up. After around the 4th month. 1 ml of GBL (1.6 Grams of GHB) fucked me up and i'd pass out even with that dose(and i'm 205lbs). I guess it all depends on setting. If u take GHB and are in a quiet, cozy warm room-- your bound to pass out on any dose.