The calm confidence of zealotry

[novamanms]

Sometimes, we just need to spark up a J and watch some George Carlin.

 

[AristotleBC]

No offense taken. I am an admitted dogmatic idealogue. I actually believe in what I argue therefore I am extremely comfortable with it.

As far as the type of liberal you describe, the term elitist is the one I choose to use. In other words, they as a group are not elite at all, but fancy themselves to be.

That's why I had so much fun with that Walmart thread. Claim to support the downtrodden with handouts but wouldn't be caught dead shopping with them. Most don't think minorities can make it in America without a handout. Classic elititsm.

The group that gets me is the so-called moderates. Not really willing to take a stand on anything. Flowing with the trends and trying not to step on any toes.

BTW, how would you describe yourself?

Good response. I am a registered Libertarian and essentially am an objectivist on social issues (but for force or theft, the government shall not intervene), and fiscally conservative. I voted for GW Bush in the 2004 election.

 

[Longhorn85]

Good response. I am a registered Libertarian and essentially am an objectivist on social issues (but for force or theft, the government shall not intervene), and fiscally conservative. I voted for GW Bush in the 2004 election.

Libertarians have some great ideas and they seem to be made up of a lot of really smart people like yourself.

I am too much of a social (radical?) conservative to ever be one. I also like to win elections.

 

[WODIN]

Actually, I did one better. I did the school thing (Ph.D. Electrical Engineering) which gave me a lot of exposure to the "intellectual elite" -- the ones who care and understand how things should be for all the "little thinkers" out there. It was really disgusting.

Then, I entered the workforce for 4 years, went back and did an MBA, and joined the faculty of a nationally-ranked business school (adjunct professor with 50% teaching requirement). Did that for three years as well. It was very entertaining hearing about all these liberal solutions to these "real world" problems out there.

See, apparently these circles understand how we need higher taxation, better distribution of wealth, more nationalized/socialized industries, and more people willing to pay "their fair share". Funny thing is, in my Engineering days, the same professor who would give these eloquent speeches went ape-shit crazy when they proposed a "beer tax" (he loved beer, which didn't make sense because 99% of his collegues were Chardonnay-sippers). He had posters on his office walls, a "no beer tax" hat, and protest buttons.

Needless to say, I was entertained.

Thanks for the the clarification.

Love the beer tax story. Great stuff.

MY FIL is a university proff / shrink and I get glimpses of the Ivory tower set at holidays and on long visits. Many of the ones I associate with on occassion put for suggestions but never are so crass or arrogant as to state that their ideas or proposed solutions are right or wrong. Simply that they are worth trying to see if they work or not.

He also runs his own practice and lives by his staunch scottish upbringing in blue collar ohio. He is what I call a moderate-democrat and lives what he preaches through personal charity and probono work.

 

[mrplunkey]

Thanks for the the clarification.

Love the beer tax story. Great stuff.

MY FIL is a university proff / shrink and I get glimpses of the Ivory tower set at holidays and on long visits. Many of the ones I associate with on occassion put for suggestions but never are so crass or arrogant as to state that their ideas or proposed solutions are right or wrong. Simply that they are worth trying to see if they work or not.

He also runs his own practice and lives by his staunch scottish upbringing in blue collar ohio. He is what I call a moderate-democrat and lives what he preaches through personal charity and probono work.

I actually have a lot of respect for liberals who walk the walk. I have personally struggled to find that many of them, but my sample is biased. My experiences come from Nashville (Vanderbilt), Atlanta (Emory) and Knoxville (University of Tennessee) -- all south. That may have a lot to do with it. In Tennessee at least, the largest quantity of Democrats are southern conservative democrats, but these guys were shunned by the academic democrats (not considered intellectual enough). Just like conservatives have fiscal conservatives and fundamentalists, I think liberals have the blue-collar and academic flavors.

P.S. and yeah, I did conveniently omit my bad stories of academic conservatives too . There is something disenginuous about a libertarian conservative applying for a fat flavor-of-the-month (i.e. homeland security) grant provided by the government.

 

[Ish]

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

 

[mrplunkey]

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

Your

PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%.

No surprises here!

 

[javaguru]

Libertarian..no surprises here...
Personal issues 90%
Economic issues 100%

 

[Longhorn85]

Libertarian, and I AM surprised. No real questions about social issues though.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

 

[javaguru]

Libertarian, and I AM surprised. No real questions about social issues though.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 70%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 70%.

I'm a Nietzschian/Darwinist.....pull your weight or die...