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The calm confidence of zealotry

All conclusions must be questioned regularly. The world doesn't exist in black and white but shades of grey. I've met with too many idealogues who refuse the re-evaluate any of their conclusions. My ex father in law is a poli sci professor and I have discussed issues with countless professors of varying fields. I found most clung to their ideology like a child clings to a favorite blanket. That being said, as academics they were able to accept alternate views supported by evidence unlike a true zealout.
 
WODIN said:
So you've directly observed this behavoir and discussed this premise with these university professors?
Actually, I did one better. I did the school thing (Ph.D. Electrical Engineering) which gave me a lot of exposure to the "intellectual elite" -- the ones who care and understand how things should be for all the "little thinkers" out there. It was really disgusting.

Then, I entered the workforce for 4 years, went back and did an MBA, and joined the faculty of a nationally-ranked business school (adjunct professor with 50% teaching requirement). Did that for three years as well. It was very entertaining hearing about all these liberal solutions to these "real world" problems out there.

See, apparently these circles understand how we need higher taxation, better distribution of wealth, more nationalized/socialized industries, and more people willing to pay "their fair share". Funny thing is, in my Engineering days, the same professor who would give these eloquent speeches went ape-shit crazy when they proposed a "beer tax" (he loved beer, which didn't make sense because 99% of his collegues were Chardonnay-sippers). He had posters on his office walls, a "no beer tax" hat, and protest buttons.

Needless to say, I was entertained.
 
mrplunkey said:
Actually, I did one better. I did the school thing (Ph.D. Electrical Engineering) which gave me a lot of exposure to the "intellectual elite" -- the ones who care and understand how things should be for all the "little thinkers" out there. It was really disgusting.

Then, I entered the workforce for 4 years, went back and did an MBA, and joined the faculty of a nationally-ranked business school (adjunct professor with 50% teaching requirement). Did that for three years as well. It was very entertaining hearing about all these liberal solutions to these "real world" problems out there.

See, apparently these circles understand how we need higher taxation, better distribution of wealth, more nationalized/socialized industries, and more people willing to pay "their fair share". Funny thing is, in my Engineering days, the same professor who would give these eloquent speeches went ape-shit crazy when they proposed a "beer tax" (he loved beer, which didn't make sense because 99% of his collegues were Chardonnay-sippers). He had posters on his office walls, a "no beer tax" hat, and protest buttons.

Needless to say, I was entertained.
I used to give my father in law all kinds of crap for taking "loophole deductions" on his tax returns and "not paying his fair share."
 
mrplunkey said:
Actually, I did one better. I did the school thing (Ph.D. Electrical Engineering) which gave me a lot of exposure to the "intellectual elite" -- the ones who care and understand how things should be for all the "little thinkers" out there. It was really disgusting.

Then, I entered the workforce for 4 years, went back and did an MBA, and joined the faculty of a nationally-ranked business school (adjunct professor with 50% teaching requirement). Did that for three years as well. It was very entertaining hearing about all these liberal solutions to these "real world" problems out there.

See, apparently these circles understand how we need higher taxation, better distribution of wealth, more nationalized/socialized industries, and more people willing to pay "their fair share". Funny thing is, in my Engineering days, the same professor who would give these eloquent speeches went ape-shit crazy when they proposed a "beer tax" (he loved beer, which didn't make sense because 99% of his collegues were Chardonnay-sippers). He had posters on his office walls, a "no beer tax" hat, and protest buttons.

Needless to say, I was entertained.

lol wodin pwned
 
AristotleBC said:
Longhorn, I'm sorry buddy (you do not care anyway) but this is the phrase the comes to mind when reading your postings.


As far as some of the libbies around here, including hot babe Kaitlin, I am just quite disturbed by the hubristic (and obviously false) notion that they are "smarter than everyone else."

Sort of a self-reinforcing group of people I suspect.

A mature thinker would recognize that such arrogance is not only false, but damaging to good thought.

No offense taken. I am an admitted dogmatic idealogue. I actually believe in what I argue therefore I am extremely comfortable with it.

As far as the type of liberal you describe, the term elitist is the one I choose to use. In other words, they as a group are not elite at all, but fancy themselves to be.

That's why I had so much fun with that Walmart thread. Claim to support the downtrodden with handouts but wouldn't be caught dead shopping with them. Most don't think minorities can make it in America without a handout. Classic elititsm.

The group that gets me is the so-called moderates. Not really willing to take a stand on anything. Flowing with the trends and trying not to step on any toes.

BTW, how would you describe yourself?
 
Gambino said:
i agree bor, 100%...funny how everyone is sheep but only a select few have the intelleigence to govern us retarded USA masses.

Your reasoning is flawed here. The best and brightest in Capitalistc America don't usually aspire to be leaders in govt. Most are rich Doctors, Lawyers, Entrepeneurs, etc.
 
So a Moderate is one who won't take a stand on any issue? Or could it be they don't believe everything they are told by their party? Hmm, that seems more like common sense to me.


Longhorn85 said:
No offense taken. I am an admitted dogmatic idealogue. I actually believe in what I argue therefore I am extremely comfortable with it.

As far as the type of liberal you describe, the term elitist is the one I choose to use. In other words, they as a group are not elite at all, but fancy themselves to be.

That's why I had so much fun with that Walmart thread. Claim to support the downtrodden with handouts but wouldn't be caught dead shopping with them. Most don't think minorities can make it in America without a handout. Classic elititsm.

The group that gets me is the so-called moderates. Not really willing to take a stand on anything. Flowing with the trends and trying not to step on any toes.

BTW, how would you describe yourself?
 
Ish said:
So a Moderate is one who won't take a stand on any issue? Or could it be they don't believe everything they are told by their party? Hmm, that seems more like common sense to me.

I don't know of anyone who believes in everything one party or the other stands for. I certainly don't. In our two-party system most of us work within our respective group to have our ideas represented.

In my experience most moderates are closet liberals who for some reason don't want to admit it.
 
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