Testosterone for depression

[Caleb's Tree]

Folks, as a mentioned, I following up...I have been taking testosterone E, C, and P... shifting every three weeks... the main reason is for depression.. and so far my life is just GREAT...I have had not a depressive episode... I am my best...Mentally focus, optimistic, happy, agreable, stronger, all good.

Got my blood pressure check and is 140/80... a bit on the high end of normal....I have a blood test schedule for next month... I am sure some of the numbers will be out of range.....

I also have to be honest...I have been taking advantage of the intake of testosterone and been working out allot... is just beautifull... all is just great...

But I have a few questions in regards this use of testosterone.... technically I am in a never ending cycle... not for size... but emotional balance... assuming that the rules for physicall enhancement of steriods apply for this usage.. most recommend a time off... but for me the emotional rollescoaster is serioud shit... enough to jeoperdize my work, marriage, and life... but at the same time I find myself thinking of a way to lower the dosage... this I want to do becuase i have read that continous use of steriod decrease its effectivienes... and I wonder if the effects I seek (booth emotional and physically) will decrease and stop...requiring higher dosages (what I am trying to avoid)....

If I lower the dosage, depression will kick in..that I know... part has to do with the sudden low test, high estrogen, and the catabolic effect that will kick in...so I have been thinking of reducing the dosage of test like 100 mg, and taking along 150 of Deca for 3 weeks,then shiffint the Deca for EQ for another 3 weeks, and the return to normal testosterone for 3 weeks... the idea is to constantly change... then taking to HCG and some novaldex ... to keep the factory on, then restart the procedure...

ANY OPINION ON THIS REGARD?

I don't do cycles...will some day....as I am getting older 44...and I know what test can do for you. The info I give you is from what I learn on here.

You can do cycles and still maintain your mood....by doing post cycle therapy.

Usually this involves some type of anti aromatizing substance, and some help to get your boys pumping out what natural test it can do on its own. From what I understand, you never want your boys to completely go dormant if you can help it.

There's plenty of info here on doing that kind of stuff. However, I have to admit, I don't know much about anabolics..just learning. HRT might be a far different thing then doing an AAS cycle, and you may have to treat that differently. Lots of guys here with good knowledge should be able to help.

My doc wants to start me on androgel, as my test is low...but in general...I'm a happy guy...but I do have my moments..most of which are caused by my insane wife. LOL. Good luck with your quest for finding the right balance.

 

[pault4896]

I have a real issue... all my life I have suffered from depression... and for those who dont know waht it is.. is some serious shit... it really blurs your perception of things.

I went to therapy, tried self help books, and was generally trying really hard to modify my aptitude... I helped and allot... changed my though and conclusion process. Working out helped allot to channel my energies and frustrations, I used to call my routines the "pain killer".

On my very first cycle and started with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (real things I bough overseas). I used the common diamond pattern. At the middle of the cycle Triet Testo E. And for the first time in my life I had what I call clarity of mind.. and though... this is how optimist people must feel.. It was great.

It was hard to end that cycle, and from then on I knew that depression was in part related to hormones...

I decided to try the comon remedies (prozac, zolof, etc) none of that help.

Four years later (up to day) I decied to do another cycle. Its a low dosage, 14 week cycle, with DECA, Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , Winstrol - stanozolol, Primobolan - methenolone - , and testosterone enanthate. Basically, every three weeks, I shift substance, moving towards low angdrogenic. My Dosage does not pass the 350mg/week in the hole ccyle. I am looking for real gain.

While On testosterone enanthate. again, the same thing happened.. I am having clarity of mind and I am more balance.

KNow I am in a dilema... I am not looking for an excuse to juice none stop. But I wonder, could I take low dosage of Test E, lest say 50mg every 14 days...I am aware of the silent side effect of juice, and I want to be careful.

This is a hard decission, and probably will not take it. But I am courious about this particular effect Test E has on me.

Don't Know why you couldn't do that? Because people that are having to take it for hormonal replacement therapy the normal dosage is 200 mg every 14 days. So it looks like your dosage is a little low if you ask me? I suggest this!! If you are going to do this and since you are not doing it under a Doctor's supervision, I would on a regular basis get blood work drawn once a month and I would perform my own hormonal level tests to see where my hormonal levels were on a regular basis. You can buy hormonal test kits from primodal force for like $79.00. It's a saliva test kit!! That would be my recomendation!! You would be stupid not to have blood work drawn on a regular basis!! But, if you are a healthy average aged adult male with symptoms of low testerone levels and you do have low testerone levels and you notice that when you take your testerone injections once every two weeks with the proper dosage and go get everything checked out on a regular basis, there shouldn't be any reason why you shouldn't want to take it if it's doing nothing but helping U!! You will have no problems, if you go get blood work done regulary!! But if you don't do that, your stupid and I wouldn't even do it!! Your stupid if you are injecting something like testerone into your body and you don't even bother to go get blood werk drawn once a month!! It's just common sense!!

 

[pault4896]

I have a real issue... all my life I have suffered from depression... and for those who dont know waht it is.. is some serious shit... it really blurs your perception of things.

I went to therapy, tried self help books, and was generally trying really hard to modify my aptitude... I helped and allot... changed my though and conclusion process. Working out helped allot to channel my energies and frustrations, I used to call my routines the "pain killer".

On my very first cycle and started with Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - (real things I bough overseas). I used the common diamond pattern. At the middle of the cycle Triet Testo E. And for the first time in my life I had what I call clarity of mind.. and though... this is how optimist people must feel.. It was great.

It was hard to end that cycle, and from then on I knew that depression was in part related to hormones...

I decided to try the comon remedies (prozac, zolof, etc) none of that help.

Four years later (up to day) I decied to do another cycle. Its a low dosage, 14 week cycle, with DECA, EQ, Winstrol - stanozolol, Primobolan - methenolone - , and testosterone enanthate. Basically, every three weeks, I shift substance, moving towards low angdrogenic. My Dosage does not pass the 350mg/week in the hole ccyle. I am looking for real gain.

While On Test E. again, the same thing happened.. I am having clarity of mind and I am more balance.

KNow I am in a dilema... I am not looking for an excuse to juice none stop. But I wonder, could I take low dosage of Test E, lest say 50mg every 14 days...I am aware of the silent side effect of juice, and I want to be careful.

This is a hard decission, and probably will not take it. But I am courious about this particular effect Test E has on me.

I'm suffering from the exact same thing you are suffering from and it's been for a long time!! I don't talk to people because I'm depressed and have no energy and my mind is all foggy all the time!! It's ashame!! I've been dealing with this fucken issue for at least ten years now!! Really my whole life!! I know this is what the problem is!! There is not a shred of doubt in my mind!! I had my testerone levels checked with my doctor and they came back real low!! Real low!!! And the Doctor turns to me and says you will be ok, it's perfectly healthy for someone to walk around with low testerone levels all the time!! That's what the fucken stupid ass bitch toled my fucken ass!! Toled me it's healthty to be walking around depressed all the time with a foggy brain and fatigue all that time and all the other symtoms like memory problems and shit that go along with it!!! I mean it's unfucken believable!! Unfuckern believable!! This has gone on for a long time!! I know that much!! Today I had no energy in the gym and didn't even have a clear mind!! My mind wasn't clear at all!! It was pretty bad!! Real bad!! I mean its ashame that someone like me has to suffer because of some stupid ass bitch Doctor who doesn't give one God Damn fucken shit about you God Damn fucken health!!

 

[Loths]

I'm suffering from the exact same thing you are suffering from and it's been for a long time!! I don't talk to people because I'm depressed and have no energy and my mind is all foggy all the time!! It's ashame!! I've been dealing with this fucken issue for at least ten years now!! Really my whole life!! I know this is what the problem is!! There is not a shred of doubt in my mind!! I had my testerone levels checked with my doctor and they came back real low!! Real low!!! And the Doctor turns to me and says you will be ok, it's perfectly healthy for someone to walk around with low testerone levels all the time!! That's what the fucken stupid ass bitch toled my fucken ass!! Toled me it's healthty to be walking around depressed all the time with a foggy brain and fatigue all that time and all the other symtoms like memory problems and shit that go along with it!!! I mean it's unfucken believable!! Unfuckern believable!! This has gone on for a long time!! I know that much!! Today I had no energy in the gym and didn't even have a clear mind!! My mind wasn't clear at all!! It was pretty bad!! Real bad!! I mean its ashame that someone like me has to suffer because of some stupid ass bitch Doctor who doesn't give one God Damn fucken shit about you God Damn fucken health!!

I heard you, and "feel" some of your frustation. I am happy about my decesion, andmy life is MUCH BETTER....But this decision has a price and consequences... and it takes character no to use this for a full blown no limit cycle. Make no mistake, you body chemistry will altered, and you will put some organs under stress. Adjustment will have to be made to your life style and deit.... in addition, your will probably have to take anti estrogen, and from time to time HCG/clomid, etc. If you are pre-dispose for male baldness, testo will accelerate it, and dont forget gyno... that will happen.

If you have low test level, you should be able to find a Doctor willing to help...many have done that....

I am not trying to sway you away... I just want to share some honest truth... like all in life.... you will have to take the good with the bad!

Good luck bro!

 

[Loths]

I don't do cycles...will some day....as I am getting older 44...and I know what test can do for you. The info I give you is from what I learn on here.

You can do cycles and still maintain your mood....by doing post cycle therapy.

Usually this involves some type of anti aromatizing substance, and some help to get your boys pumping out what natural test it can do on its own. From what I understand, you never want your boys to completely go dormant if you can help it.

There's plenty of info here on doing that kind of stuff. However, I have to admit, I don't know much about anabolics..just learning. HRT might be a far different thing then doing an AAS cycle, and you may have to treat that differently. Lots of guys here with good knowledge should be able to help.

My doc wants to start me on androgel, as my test is low...but in general...I'm a happy guy...but I do have my moments..most of which are caused by my insane wife. LOL. Good luck with your quest for finding the right balance.

hear you on the wife... man... they tend to do that.. how did we ended onthat position..cant live with then, can live without them! Thanks Bro.