tax break for suv drivers.

[Sushi X]

You're kidding, right?
Do you think that they just give out money because you're handsome and witty like me?
I make what I make because I invested hundreds of thousands of dollars and hours into my education and now routinely work 100+ hour weeks. It is absolutely absurd to say that people like me haven't earned every dolar we make. Now if you want to talk about atheletes and actors....

babydock, i understand what you are saying. those who work hard to get through school and in their jobs deserve a break. you maybe more than most cause you have to pay back loans, i assume you do, which will take years. what gets me is the super rich who inherited their money and don't work or do little of it.

i agree with you on the athletes and actors thing, that's plain stupid to pay someone 5 million a year to throw a football. that's why i prefer college ball over pro. don't get me started on basketball and baseball players.

 

[Sushi X]

wodin, i never said it was bad for small business owners. i think they do need a break so they can afford to run their business and maybe hire more people. fortune 500 companies, many whom get corporate welfare, do not need such breaks. i wont go into the big corporations as that's another argument, but for small businesses it's a good idea. it can be hard to run your own business as is.

 

[WODIN]

I'm n0t saying it's bad sushi, I was just clarifying the example...I'm looking at the Envoy myself.

LOL!!!

 

[bigguns7]

the top two percent can afford a 1-5% increase which is chump change

O, so now we're supposed to tax people on what they "can afford?"

You're making the most asinine points I've ever seen. You're saying things like people who inherit money don't deserve to kep as much as people who earn it. You're saying that if someone makes $100k a year, he won't miss an extra $5k because it's "chump change." You're complaining about the plight of the "working poor." If you're "working poor," get off your ass and do something with your life. Make something of yourself and strive to be somebody who actually thinks $5k is "chump change."

When your'e "working poor," it's easy to claim that 5% of someone else's money is "chump change."

 

[Sushi X]

you think it's that easy to get off my ass and make something of myself. i work my ass off and can't afford to go to school. my financial aid was cut cause i had to chose between classes and paying bills, mainly my car note. working poor aren't lazy we work just as hard maybe even more than you do but get paid less. and fyi, i'm trying to get into management where i work now so i can make a better living. those of you who have money think it's so easy to do things, you can keep living in that fantasy world too.

and as for 5%, i always said i'd take an that much extra out of my paycheck in order to have medical insurance. not too many people poor or not would say that, but seeing as how i am willing to work for what i want and need i will pay the extra bit to get insurance. bigguns, i am the working poor. i'm not saying things are totally bad, they could be better. i don't want to be rich or even get ahead, i just want to be even.

here's a bit of info for you, here in alabama, the more money you make the less state tax you pay. that's complete bs and totally unfair. but then again alabama is a republican state.

 

[Sushi X]

I'm n0t saying it's bad sushi, I was just clarifying the example...I'm looking at the Envoy myself.

LOL!!!

if i could afford it i'd like to have an avalanche. sweet ride there or one of the new dodge rams with the hemi engine. nice!

 

[HumorMe]

It's not about how much money you make but what you do with the money you make.

If I make $100,000 a year and spend $125,000 a year and bank nothing then I have accomplished nothing but living outside of my means and sinking further in debt.

If you make $30,000 a year and spend $25,000 and bank $5,000 then who is better off.

If you make $30,000 a year and have a $500 - $600 car payment then you better find a cheaper way to get around.

It's all about putting your priorities in line and what you are willing to give up in order to live comfortably.

 

[MortyJackson]

you think it's that easy to get off my ass and make something of myself. i work my ass off and can't afford to go to school. my financial aid was cut cause i had to chose between classes and paying bills, mainly my car note. working poor aren't lazy we work just as hard maybe even more than you do but get paid less. and fyi, i'm trying to get into management where i work now so i can make a better living. those of you who have money think it's so easy to do things, you can keep living in that fantasy world too.

and as for 5%, i always said i'd take an that much extra out of my paycheck in order to have medical insurance. not too many people poor or not would say that, but seeing as how i am willing to work for what i want and need i will pay the extra bit to get insurance. bigguns, i am the working poor. i'm not saying things are totally bad, they could be better. i don't want to be rich or even get ahead, i just want to be even.

here's a bit of info for you, here in alabama, the more money you make the less state tax you pay. that's complete bs and totally unfair. but then again alabama is a republican state.

Boo hoo. Cry for Sushi because he works hard and cant pay his bills. Thats nobodys fault but your own sushi so quit trying to take it out on the people who got educated and make a good living. You may physically work as hard as those people but arent as valuable. Too bad. Your fault.

 

[TheProject]

Okay, so explain this to Mr. Finanical Idiot here.

Does this mean I qualify for a dedcution because I have an Avalanche? Or do I have to be a small business owner for this to work?

 

[bigguns7]

you think it's that easy to get off my ass and make something of myself. i work my ass off and can't afford to go to school. my financial aid was cut cause i had to chose between classes and paying bills, mainly my car note. working poor aren't lazy we work just as hard maybe even more than you do but get paid less. and fyi, i'm trying to get into management where i work now so i can make a better living. those of you who have money think it's so easy to do things, you can keep living in that fantasy world too.

The reason the "working poor" are the "working poor" is that they actually think that we should be rewarded in life based on how "hard" we work, as is obvuiously your opinion.

It's not about how hard you work, it's about using leverage to get people working hard for you. These "working poor" who work so hard that they can't get an education really bother me. They don't realize that they would be much better off quitting work, getting student loans out the ass, and gettting a college degree, and then getting a good job to pay those loans off.

I'm going to give you two timelines of two men who start off with the same means but live their lives very differently:

Timeline of the average working man:

-Graduate high school at age 18, net worth = $0
-Get a job in construction, busting ass 60 hours a week, making $7 an hour, net worth after 1 year = $3,000
-After 2 years, get a raise to $8 an hour, net worth after 2 years $5,000
-After 3 years, get a great raise to $10 an hour, net worth after 3 years, $8,000
-After 20 years, he's making $20 an hour, net worth $60,000
-Retires at age 75, making $30 an hour, net worth $250,000

Timeline of the smart man who doesn't have to "work hard:"

-Graduate high school at age 18, net worth = $0
-Take out student loans to go to state college for 4 years, net worth = $-35,000
-Get a degree and a job at age 22 in corporate America, work 40 hours a week, make $16.75 an hour ($35,000 a year), net worth $-30,000
-After 1 year get a raise to $37,500, or $18.00 an hour, net worth $-22,000
-After 2 years, promotion, salary is now $42,000 or $20.20 an hour, net worth $-15,000
-After 20 years, he's making $85,000, or $41 an hour, net worth $250,000
-Retires at age 65, making $100,000, or $48 an hour, net worth $750,000


These two men are very average men, of average intelligence, and average upbringing, with not a dime to their names when they graduated high school. Their lives have turned out very differently, because one "worked hard" and one "worked smart."

Why should the smart worker pay a higher percentage of his earnings than the hard worker? Seems to me it was a choose your own destiny sort of situation, and the hard worker chose the wrong destiny. That's not the smart worker's problem.