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tax break for suv drivers.

flat tax won't work. say 15%. that 15% impacts those of us who don't make a lot of money more than those who do. why is it fair for them to be taxed the same amount when they make much much more? they way i see it is like this:

less than 10k a year=5%
10k-20k=10%
over 20k but less than 40k=15%
over 40 but less than 75=20%
over 75 but less than 150k=25%
over 150 but less than 300k=30%
over 300k but less than 500k=35%
over 500k capped at 40%

that is fair and reasonable. noone should be taxed over 40% though. i don't care if you make 300mil a year, 40% should be the cap.
 
Sushi X said:
flat tax won't work. say 15%. that 15% impacts those of us who don't make a lot of money more than those who do. why is it fair for them to be taxed the same amount when they make much much more? they way i see it is like this:

less than 10k a year=5%
10k-20k=10%
over 20k but less than 40k=15%
over 40 but less than 75=20%
over 75 but less than 150k=25%
over 150 but less than 300k=30%
over 300k but less than 500k=35%
over 500k capped at 40%

that is fair and reasonable. noone should be taxed over 40% though. i don't care if you make 300mil a year, 40% should be the cap.

Its fair because the wealthy earned their money. At a flat tax rate they will still be paying a lot more money than you will. There is no justification for punishing peoples success.
 
warik, check the math.

15% of my income which is about 12,000 a year is 1800 dollars.
15% for let's say someone who makes 100,000 a year is 15,000.

yes, that's still more than me. they are left with 85,000 a year to live off of. while i'm left with 10,200 to pay bills and such. you say they earned that money so did i. i'm not mooching of the governmetn, i'm working too. why are they entitled to keep more of there money more than me? cause they're rich? you all tend to forget, it's those of us who earn less that provide the services and goods the wealtier need and use. and they are more deserving.

morty, i'm not talking about punishing people for success, stop listening to rush limbaugh. what i'm talking about is more money for us working poor to be able to have to do things like the wealthier do, such as take a freaking vacation, or be able to go to the doctor when we are sick or hurt. why should we be left out of such things when we work just as hard if not harder. is it because we are not some smuck ceo or some rich kid who inherited his daddy's money? give me a break. you won't understand it until you see it from the eyes of us working poor. not the lazy won't work poor, the get up and go work 5-7 days a week poor who make ends meat.
 
warik, check the math.

15% of my income which is about 12,000 a year is 1800 dollars.
15% for let's say someone who makes 100,000 a year is 15,000.

yes, that's still more than me. they are left with 85,000 a year to live off of. while i'm left with 10,200 to pay bills and such. you say they earned that money so did i. i'm not mooching of the governmetn, i'm working too. why are they entitled to keep more of there money more than me? cause they're rich? you all tend to forget, it's those of us who earn less that provide the services and goods the wealtier need and use. and they are more deserving.

morty, i'm not talking about punishing people for success, stop listening to rush limbaugh. what i'm talking about is more money for us working poor to be able to have to do things like the wealthier do, such as take a freaking vacation, or be able to go to the doctor when we are sick or hurt. why should we be left out of such things when we work just as hard if not harder. is it because we are not some smuck ceo or some rich kid who inherited his daddy's money? give me a break. you won't understand it until you see it from the eyes of us working poor. not the lazy won't work poor, the get up and go work 5-7 days a week poor who make ends meat.
 
Sushi X said:

morty, i'm not talking about punishing people for success, stop listening to rush limbaugh. what i'm talking about is more money for us working poor to be able to have to do things like the wealthier do, such as take a freaking vacation, or be able to go to the doctor when we are sick or hurt. why should we be left out of such things when we work just as hard if not harder. is it because we are not some smuck ceo or some rich kid who inherited his daddy's money? give me a break. you won't understand it until you see it from the eyes of us working poor. not the lazy won't work poor, the get up and go work 5-7 days a week poor who make ends meat.

Why should the wealthy pay to support you? You earn the money yourself and earn your vacations and healthcare. At the flat tax rate the rich still pay a lot more. There is no need for them to pay a higher percentage.
 
Flat tax is the right thing to do.

Here is a little example for all you.
This is for all those who bitch about the "rich" getting all the breaks. It also shows you the bullshit behind the democrat arguement.

How Taxes Work....

Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing;
The fifth would pay $1;
The sixth would pay $3;
The seventh $7;
The eighth $12;
The ninth $18;
and the tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. That's what they decided
to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed
quite happy with the arrangement-until one day, the owner threw them a
curve (in tax language a Tax Cut).

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce
the cost of your daily meal by $20." So now dinner for the ten only
cost
$80.00.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So
the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But
what about the other six-the paying customers? How could they divvy up
the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?" The six
men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody's share, Then the fifth man (who was paying $1) and
the sixth man (who was paying $3) would end up being PAID to eat their
meal. So the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce
each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work
out
the amounts each should pay.

And so the fifth man paid nothing;
The sixth pitched in $2;
The seventh paid $5;
The eighth paid $9;
The ninth paid $12
Leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of his earlier $59.

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued
to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to
compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared
the sixth man, but he, (pointing to the tenth) got $7!".

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar,
too, ........It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!".

That's true!" shouted the seventh man, why should he get $7 back when I
got only $2?" The wealthy get all the breaks!".

Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

So, the nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night
he
didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him.
But
when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a little late what
was very important. They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of paying the
bill!

Imagine that!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college instructors, is how
the tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.

Where would that leave the rest?

Unfortunately, most taxing authorities anywhere cannot seem to grasp
this rather straight-forward logic!
 
That, JohnyJuice, is exactly how the tax system works. I'm glad you posted that!

People can bitch and complain and beat the rich guys up but they are only fucking themselves without knowing it!

Ignorant fucks!
 
morty, when did i say that the wealthy should support me?

i work for my money, as do most rich or wealthy people do. the thing is do they deserve to keep more of their money more than i do and if so why? is it because they have more. all i am saying is that the government is paid for by taxes, the working poor do not make as much as the working wealthy. it's a fact. so i think it's fair for the working poor to be able to keep more of their money, notice their money not the wealthy's money, so they can afford things like food, healthcare, clothes, a vacation once in awhile, and many other things. it's not a lot of money, so why do the wealthy/republicans/conservatives all have to bitch and whine that the working poor want to keep more of their money? if the government could run on a flat tax system great, but it can't. to give the working poor more of their own money they have to cut their taxes, in return the money has to come from somewhere. why not the top 2% of the wealthiest? my not raise their taxes, it's chump change to them, to make up the difference and give the middle class a tax break as well. why? because the working poor insignificant even though we work and pay our taxes as well. the only way the working poor and middle class will ever get a fair tax break is if the government reduces spending and it's size, and the top 2% get a 1-5% tax increase. which is again, chump change to them.
 
You guys can thank MP5 for that tax assessment.
And Sushi, you said "i work for my money, as do most rich or wealthy people do. the thing is do they deserve to keep more of their money more than i do and if so why? "

They dont deserve to keep moreof their money than you do. They also shouldnt have to pay more. Everyone should pay the same amount, i.e. same percentage.
 
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