Supplements and Herbs for ED, libido, desire and drive, HELP...

[CLEMDOG]

This may not be the most appropriate post for this board, but Supplement board just doesnt cut it. I need some good, informed opinions and advice...

Ok, I'm starting to get pretty worried and desperate. Ever since I begun using AS my cock has never worked the same. Even when off for periods of time. My last real AS cycle was roughly 1 1/2 years ago. About 4 weeks ago I finished a 1-test cycle (was curious), which I had used 600mg/day for 8weeks. Unfortunately I was quite disappointed. I have pretty much stopped using all types of hormones, legal or not, due to this very dear and sensitive matter. So basically since I begun using AS up to this very day my erection capabilities and libido, desire, drive, is almost none existant. The last 2 chicks I've been with I either told them it wasnt going to work, or that I tried and failed.

So, even despite the fact that I'm using all types of good supplements and herbs to help to correct this problem, I'm still hangin low.

This is my current supplement regime that I begun 3-4 weeks ago. I thought this would make me a horny dog...

- Maca - 7.5grms/day
- Cordyceps - 1600mg/day
- Rhodiola Rosea - 900mg/day
- Avena Sativa - 1500mg/day
- Pregnenolone - 150-200mg/day
- 5-HTP - 200mg/day
- 7-keto DHEA - 175mg/day
- Yohimbine HCl - 20mg +/day (even took 13.5mg at once this morning with nada)(maybe I'm refractory to YHCl, or just need more?)

The Maca is from Imperial Gold Maca, YHCL is from kilosports and the rest is from BAC.

2 products I've been looking at at BAC are Xanthoparmelia scabrosa and Cnidium monnieri. Both work by increasing NO and cGMP levels as well as inhibiting PDE-5 enzyme. Does anyone have any experience with these and what are your opinions? Can they be taking on a day to day basis, or should they only be taken before sex? I want something to fix this Damn Problem!

Thanks for all your help guys...

 

[speller]

that is quite the stack. i fear there may be some underlying problems that may be best discussed with your family doctor. how old are you? E. D. is far more common than you think. best to seek help from a doc.

 

[CLEMDOG]

I understand that ED is a very common problem, unfortunately I'm only 22, almost 23. So, as you can see, this is really reeking havoc on my sex and dating life.

The problem may be psychological. I have developed anxiety and fear of being intimate secondary to this ED. I think that the combination of having the problem in the first place along with developing the anxiety has turned into a 2-fold problem.

I want to solve this problem on my own, however I dont see it happening very quickly, or even at all...

 

[bicepts101]

hey man go to the docter! bump for Nelson he may have some insite for ya

 

[CLEMDOG]

shit, since I'm still under my parents insurance, that will be a fun one explaining to them...Haha...

any opinions or first hand experience with the 2 aforementioned BAC products? The Xanthoparmelia scabrosa and the Cnidium monnieri?

Yesterday I went ahead and ordered them along with arginine pyroglutamate and will have them tomorrow. Hopefully I will see an improvement with them as I'm going out with an RN from work.

 

[manchester]

Have you tried doggie style? That always does it for me!!!
It sounds like the anxiety could be affecting you. Can you never get it up at all or do you start out strong and then lose it. I think a doctor is appropriate--your parents will understand. Tell them some OTC supplements caused some changes--they don't want you to be single. Good luck!

 

[GUNZ-007]

Sounds like anxiety bro, you are so worried about getting it up. If thats all you think about when it comes time, then nothing is going to bring it to life. Try some xanax. Last time you tried you probably could not stop thinking about getting it up, so what happened? Nothing because you were to worried.

 

[Badbart]

1-Test shuts you down hard so its going to take a long time to recover wiht out clomid or nolva. You haven't given your self enough time to recover from the 1-Test. 1-Test shut me down hard compared to real test so give yourself more time. Hit the liquid clomid or nolva and so what happens and add trib, it works great for me.

I had the same problem from AS so I quit and I'm back to the old libdo.

 

[manchester]

You may try viagra to get rid of the anxiety? A couple of good rompings and you should be okay (mentally). Very easy to get online from established online pharmacies.

 

[marx]

You may try viagra to get rid of the anxiety? A couple of good rompings and you should be okay (mentally). Very easy to get online from established online pharmacies.

Exactly, i was in the same boat as you and i am the same age. Try this to get your confidence back up, then taper off the viagra using every 2nd time then every third, etc...

The second you think it's not gonna come up, game over...

 

[oubeta]

Stay off that 1-Test shit.
I'm taking 3g of Aventa from Beyond a Century.com a day
MACA
Tribulus

I just came off a longgggg cycle and my sex drive is through the roof. I'm 23 also. I also added flax oil to my diet. I couldn't feel better.

 

[CLEMDOG]

thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.

Well, as far as stiffys go, I never get a natural erection during the day, even when I see good looking women. The only time is when I try to 'relieve some stress' myself. I can achieve a sufficent erection to climax, but it takes alot of time and more energy than necessary and the erection isnt super great.

I wanted to try the 1-test due to legality, ease of obtainment, use, and I had heard some positive feedback. It was quite shitty if you ask me.

I understand its only been a couple of weeks since I came off the one test, however, with my supplement stack, I thought for sure I'd be at least improving.

Viagra, or the likes, are an option. I just dont like the idea of a temporary solution. And since I'm not with a particular person right now I dont want to let them know that I have to rely on some extra help. " Just give me about 30mins to warm up..." Haha

 

[CLEMDOG]

BTW- Oubeta- do think there is a significant difference with 3grms of the AVena, as compared to the 1500mg/day that I'm using? I was thinking about bumping it up.

You know whats the point in having a great physique and meeting great women, then not being able to do anything?? ARgh
I actually get told alot that women are intimidated by me, like they think they arent good enough for me.. Ha, I like that one.

 

[SUPERDIMI]

There is no guarantee that your libido problems are 100% from AS use. Go to the doctor and let him decide by looking at blood test results.

I don't know how long you been off that 1-test, but it seems like good advice that it would shut you down pretty hard and you might need to regain your natural level with clomid or nolva.

But, let the doctor decide for sure if this is what is going on. Do not just accept the performance anxiety explanation. You want to be sure there is nothing else going on.

Sex is a major life function. Make it a priority to get that taken care of being your 22.

D

 

[CLEMDOG]

If it doesnt resolve within a little more time or improve, then seeing someone will be my next stop. Who would you guys go to see first for this type of problem? A family physician, endocrinologist, urologist?..

Clomid isnt what its all cracked up to be.

 

[genarr4]

See a doctor. Forget all these OTC supps, they're all bullshit.

 

[CLEMDOG]

Well when I designed this combo for myself, I had several objectives as far as the results I wanted.

I am attempting to improve test levels, of course, balance and normalize hormone levels, improved my sex drive, desire, ect, improved and stabilize mood, control anxiety and stress, improved cognition and mental functioning, improved athletic performance and improved physique, and overall health.

I am shooting at improving a broad range of functioning.

 

[soflaguy]

Are you dieting or not sleeping well? If so, that can lead to a low sex drive. Try eating balanced meals with good fats in there. Also, I notice that ECA stacks or ephedrine/ephedra have a negative impact on my libido.

I personally dont think those supps do jack for a sex drive. Proviron definitely fixes the libido problem, along with some viagra for the act itself.

 

[CLEMDOG]

everything is inline. Sleep 8-9 hours day. Diet is very good. Low carb (150+/-), 300+/- protein/day, I love quality fats, such as the omega 3s from flax, fish and fish oils, peanuts, nuts, which I include in diet daily. Drink 6-8 cups of green tea per day.

I have shyed away from the ephedrine containing products. I do know those kill my cock. I am currently using Zing from BAC, its a thermogenic blend with low levels of ephedra ( roughly 14mg/day, or 4.5mg per serving)

I have been thinking about proviron. I've never tried it, but have heard good libido enhancing effects. So does it improve the overall drive and desire? I think if I could get those back then I'd be set to go and everything would fall into place.

 

[SUPERDIMI]

Go to a family physician first, they will be able to decide who you need to go to next, if needed. You don't want to go to specialists that sometimes have a narrow point of view, until after you're directed there.

Proviron and viagra is acceptable when you are going through times that you know are going to be tough(immediately after coming off).

You're 22, it's not really acceptable to say I'll just get some viagra to fix my ed. After clomid or nolv, go to the doc or even go now.

D

 

[Hungduck]

You really should see a doctor. There are a lot of things that could be causing your problem.You need to "know" what the problem is before you treat it. High blood pressure can be a cause of Ed and much of what your taking could add to that problem.I'd see an MD soon. HD

 

[40butpumpin]

Bro, get on HCG for at least a few weeks. 1-test put my libido in the gutter and the only thing that helped me get out of it was HCG. Good luck brother!

 

[Lift Chief]

Stay off that 1-Test shit.
I'm taking 3g of Aventa from Beyond a Century.com a day
MACA
Tribulus

I just came off a longgggg cycle and my sex drive is through the roof. I'm 23 also. I also added flax oil to my diet. I couldn't feel better.

You said your sex drive is doing well but how well did you hold onto your gains with this stuff?

 

[speller]

e.d. agian is more prevelant among 20 - 25 yr. old than you think. but like yourself many are to embarrased to seek the help that they require. go to your doctor. beleive me your not the first 22 year old that he has seen with this problem. everything is confidential. he may also be able to give you a half dozen or so viagra, in a blister pack for a "tial basis" so you dont have to fill a prescription yet. some one mentioned popping a viagra nailing some filthy slut and getting your confidence back up - among other things! i have seen many patients you suffer from e.d. where the main underlying problem is they psych themselves out when the big moment arises. if you are telling yourself " oh shit im not going to be able to get it up, shes going to think im a loser" hey buddy - your not going to get it up. a little blue pill fixes this, and you simple taper off them until you dont use it nor need it. problem solved. and think of all the money you would save on all these products that your buying. there is even a sugar pill that looks like a viagra that can be given to a patient suffering from what you describe. the patient does not know which one it is and pops it thinking its real viagra, and gets a hard on thus is over the mental anxiety aspect. ask your doctor about it.

 

[CLEMDOG]

My BP is pretty much normal for me, roughly 130/80.

HCG, hmmm, I'd rather stay away from something that can spike estrogen levels. I'd first go for the proviron.

The Xanthoparmelia and Cnidium I ordered is supposed to come today, but hasnt shown up. Hopefully they will before I go out tonight. I will let you guys know how they work when they do arrive.

 

[CLEMDOG]

Well guys I recieved my Arginine pyroglutamate, Xanthoparmelia and Cnidium a couple of days ago...

Arginine pyro - using 3gms only when I wake up in the middle of the night to use the restroom. Basically to take advantage of having an empty stomach and if it helps with GH release at all, then that would be a good time.

Xanthoparmelia - using it 2X per day at about 100mg each time.
Cnidium - 2X per day also with the Xantho at about 100mg each time also.

Its kinda hard to say if I'm getting anything cause I have trouble with being stimulated sexually. Last night I took them and 30 mins later tryed and still only can get to 85-90% of a full erection. It might have been better then normal, however. Maybe more time would yield better results.

I was thinking about this yesterday. What about Rx testosterone gels or patches? Not something that will cause any adversive effects, not inhibit my own natural production and will help improve the libido.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

sometimes having an over active libido can be a problem too. i need it 3-5 times a day and thats without any drugs. you can imagine what test does to my libido

 

[CLEMDOG]

damn Depressivejuice, what you trying to make me feel bad... Haha...

I think I'd rather have the problem with an exagerated libido, rather none at all! At least I could please the ladies.

Hopefully this will resolve soon, cause I think the RN I know at work is going to turn into something special. I've known her for over a year now and fell in love with her the first day I met her. Its going somewhere now cause she is getting out of a not so good relationship. I'm giddy as a little boy...