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started my killer cycle today bro's

bigmann245

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today marks week 1 of my 12 week cycle. i posted the actual cycle on here before but a quick rundown:

sust @ 500mg/week
tren @ 75mg eod
deca @ 400mg/week
dbol @ 50mg/day
test e @ 500mg/week

and of course nolva throughout with HCG and clomid post cycle


the only AAS out of the above i havent done yet is deca, but all the others i did in various cycles. this is officially my 6th cycle. i have the time to workout consistantly and hard, eat right, and definately rest. i am going to school full time since i was retired from the navy due to a broken ankle from semi-pro football. yes the AAS definately helped with playing football. go figure. wish me luck bro's.
 
bigmann245 said:
today marks week 1 of my 12 week cycle. i posted the actual cycle on here before but a quick rundown:

sust @ 500mg/week
tren @ 75mg eod
deca @ 400mg/week
dbol @ 50mg/day
test e @ 500mg/week

and of course nolva throughout with HCG and clomid post cycle


the only AAS out of the above i havent done yet is deca, but all the others i did in various cycles. this is officially my 6th cycle. i have the time to workout consistantly and hard, eat right, and definately rest. i am going to school full time since i was retired from the navy due to a broken ankle from semi-pro football. yes the AAS definately helped with playing football. go figure. wish me luck bro's.

damn, thats alot bro. Just curious why the sus and test e together in the ame cycle?
 
gettinkrunkd said:
damn, thats alot bro. Just curious why the sus and test e together in the ame cycle?


i actually got it off a recommended cycle chart from a book i read. i just changed a little bit but it had test e and sust together. should i drop one of them? if so why? id rather not use it all if i do not have to. i can save some for another cycle. let me know.
 
you could drop either or, they both will take relatively the same amount of time to kick in, so its up to you bro. I would drop one though, cause its not necessary and youll just be stressing your body more, making pct harder. Just my .2cents
 
little chris said:
over 2 grams of aas a week is way too much in my opinion unless your in competition.


yea but ive done quite a few cycles and gained ok size for what i was taking. i wasnt too happy. this time i had the oportunity in all aspects, time, funds, etc... if it seams to be too much i will drop it back some but for now im taking day to day.
 
good god. the difference is the ester the test is in, whether it be long, medium, or short acting...something you need to get figured out ASAP.
 
bigmann245 said:
by the way, what is the difference between test e, test cypionate and sust?


the reason i ask is, in the chemical wizardry book on this site, it has deca/sust/cyp together. thats where i got it from.
 
savage1026 said:
good god. the difference is the ester the test is in, whether it be long, medium, or short acting...something you need to get figured out ASAP.


im sorry it came accross as a newbe type question. what i was getting at is, the chemical wizardry book on this site has the almost exact cycle listed as a sample cycle. so thats why i said whats the difference since it is on the chemical wizardry book here.
 
I like it. I just hope you're not gonna run the tren and dbol together for the full 10wks. If you do decide to drop one of the test, then I'd drop the sust and go with the enanthate.
 
Outtlaw said:
I like it. I just hope you're not gonna run the tren and dbol together for the full 10wks. If you do decide to drop one of the test, then I'd drop the sust and go with the enanthate.
yeah, if i were you, i'd maybe run them both for the first few weeks, then after about 3 weeks, drop the sust and just up your dose of the test enth. that way the fast esters in the sust will get the test into your body sooner, but by then also, you will be just fine running the enth for the rest of your cycle. deca is a great compound. since you've not run it before, why dont you just consider the classic deca/test/dbol cycle, i don't think you will regret it. i would not run tren and deca together, you are asking for a very hard recovery and i'm sure you will be more than satisfied with the 3 compounds i listed. if not, then drop the deca and finish off with the tren, but that's just an option, not what i would do.
 
Outtlaw said:
I like it. I just hope you're not gonna run the tren and dbol together for the full 10wks. If you do decide to drop one of the test, then I'd drop the sust and go with the enanthate.


no, i was going to run them for 8 weeks at the most depends on how i feel as i go along. i understand that this may be a bit much for some but i am going by the way my body reacted to previous cycles. i did a sust/dbol/tren cycle at pretty heavy doses and i didnt get any signs of gyno. as i started doing AAS i realized my body isnt as prone to gyno or any other type of problems i heard people having. but i am taking the nolva throughout as a precaution and then hcg and clomid post cycle. i have done quite a bit of research on these, the only reason i put the tren in the mix was due to my results from it in the past. i may drop it depending on how i feel.

thanks for the input everyone. good or bad opinions on this are greatly appreciated. i do take it to heart. i will give this a go for a few weeks and if i feel somethings not right i will drop back and change some things. i have enough for 2 full cycles and a cutting cycle.
 
after week 4 sust and test e will be the same... i agree with lvtitan and after 3-4 week just switch all test to test e and up the dose. good luck :)
 
karachi183 said:
good luck!


thanks. my wife thinks im crazy. shes still caught up in the whole "steroids are bad" hype. but she knows im smart about it and i do my research. the funny thing is, she LOVES the results. she shows me off to her friends and co-workers.
 
bigmann245 said:
thanks. my wife thinks im crazy. shes still caught up in the whole "steroids are bad" hype. but she knows im smart about it and i do my research. the funny thing is, she LOVES the results. she shows me off to her friends and co-workers.

nice... when i have HS reunions i hope i look better and better every 5 years while the majority of the people will look more and more awful. 5th is next spring.. that should be fun :)
 
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