SSAlexSS needs to leave or change his attitude

[Thaibox]

I know he entertains some people. But, we're forgetting that this board is for people to learn and share knowledge, scientific and empirical. This little turd has posted nothing but total bullshit and now is directing it to newbies so they can fuck themselves up, become totally catabolic and look like he did in those pics. All he does is cause drama and spread misinformation with NO experience(or recent pics) to back it up. I respect everyones' right to have opinions on here, that's where learning comes from. But he preaches this shit as though its gospel. this shit head is making this board a joke. It pisses me off to think that some poor bro is going to take him seriously and compromise his training potential. Alex, when all of the vets on this board are criticizing you and telling you that you are WRONG, there's probably a reason.

 

[b fold the truth]

I have a pretty good idea who he is...and he is a vet on the boards. That is probably why he isn't being banned for his posts..

my opinion

B True

 

[Advaik]

Alex is not necessarily wrong, just confused. Personaly, I don't follow anything Alex says. I did, however, do more research into it and found that it is actually a very valid lifting routine. Yes, you need to know your limits, and you need to know them better than you've known anything you've ever done. You can totally fuck up your CNS and possibly even paralyze yourself doing it (I have a friend who can barely move now because he was overtraining on steriods, and he's only 27). I can't tell you if I am doing overtraining correctly or not, all I can tell you is that I am getting great gains, in both strength and size. I am taking certain precautions not to fuck up my CNS, and not cause any injury to myself. It is NOT a routine for newbies, like Alex advocates. You can seriously hurt yourself very easily doing overtraining, but if you do it correctly, it is just as good as being on gear.

Take it from me, 3 weeks into overtraining with 6 weeks to go, I am already getting alot of comments. People are telling me that it looks like I am wearing shoulder pads and some even comment that I might be on roids.

What I am trying to say is this, don't knock overtraining just because Alex is going about it the wrong way. Let him end up in a wheelchair, just don't go telling saying that overtraining is total bullshit.

 

[b fold the truth]

Alex? Is that you?

 

[Advaik]

And no I am not Alex, nor am I assosiated with him in anyway. I think he is a dumbass and is going to kill himself sooner or later. All I am saying is that overtraining is an actual routine. Alex is NOT doing it right, and is posting BS about it, but the routine is not BS.

 

[Advaik]

Okay, let me explain what overtraining really is.

It isn't training until you can't even move. That is extremely catabolic, and if you do ever do it, it should only be performed once a year to shock the system. It can be beneficial, but the risks far outweigh the benefit. Like I said, if you ever do this, ONLY do it to shock the system (IE incase you hit a wall in your training).

There are three degrees to train:
Maximum: Training until you feel comfortable.
Failure: Training until you can not get another rep out.
Overtrain: Training until you can not get another rep out, then doing it again.

Most people choose to train to their Maximum or to Failure. Either way is great, and I’ve read all the discussions on these boards about them. Neither has been proven to be better than the other. It all depends on the person; some people respond well to training to Failure, others respond well to training to their Maximum. However, no one really considers Overtraining. You can go about Overtraining in two ways. After you’ve trained to Failure you can either decrease the weight and train to Ultimate Failure, or you can have a long rest period and do an Ultimate Failure set. In other words, Overtraining is like doing two or three failure sets (depending on your level of training).

The way I like to Overtrain is instead of doing one lift for each isolated muscle, I will do two. I also do 5x6, so for each isolated muscle I am doing 10x6. The first lift I train to my Maximum. The next lift is usually my harder lift where I train to Failure. After I have trained to Failure I will take a 2-3 minute break and train to Ultimate Failure (where I HAVE to cheat to “some” degree, but not much).

An example of this is for my biceps:
5x6 Hammer Curls
3x6 Concentration Curls
1 Set Failure Concentration Curls
1 Set Ultimate Failure Concentration Curls

That is not all there is to it, when you lift, you have to pay close attention to your muscles. If they are not responding well, then you must stop because something is wrong. An example of this is once while doing Flyers, I felt a pop in my chest and my muscle when into spasms. Luckily I was listening to my muscles, and the rep I did before that rep I decided to take it a little easier because it felt weird. If I had not listened to my muscles, I could have easily torn the muscle, thankfully I only pulled it which took about a week to recover. That was on an Ultimate Failure set.

Unlike Alex, I HAVE posted numbers, so you can’t say I am a fucknut here. When I am finished doing Overtraining (sometime in July) I WILL post all the numbers. You can be the judge for yourself whether you think this routine is valid or not.

You can badger on Alex all you want, I’ll agree that he is an idiot, but you can’t go around saying that Overtraining is a myth or whatever.

 

[gmanlax7]

He brings nothing, peace his ass out

 

[sorerotators]

Okay, let me explain what overtraining really is.

It isn't training until you can't even move. That is extremely catabolic, and if you do ever do it, it should only be performed once a year to shock the system. It can be beneficial, but the risks far outweigh the benefit. Like I said, if you ever do this, ONLY do it to shock the system (IE incase you hit a wall in your training).

There are three degrees to train:
Maximum: Training until you feel comfortable.
Failure: Training until you can not get another rep out.
Overtrain: Training until you can not get another rep out, then doing it again.

Most people choose to train to their Maximum or to Failure. Either way is great, and I’ve read all the discussions on these boards about them. Neither has been proven to be better than the other. It all depends on the person; some people respond well to training to Failure, others respond well to training to their Maximum. However, no one really considers Overtraining. You can go about Overtraining in two ways. After you’ve trained to Failure you can either decrease the weight and train to Ultimate Failure, or you can have a long rest period and do an Ultimate Failure set. In other words, Overtraining is like doing two or three failure sets (depending on your level of training).

The way I like to Overtrain is instead of doing one lift for each isolated muscle, I will do two. I also do 5x6, so for each isolated muscle I am doing 10x6. The first lift I train to my Maximum. The next lift is usually my harder lift where I train to Failure. After I have trained to Failure I will take a 2-3 minute break and train to Ultimate Failure (where I HAVE to cheat to “some” degree, but not much).

An example of this is for my biceps:
5x6 Hammer Curls
3x6 Concentration Curls
1 Set Failure Concentration Curls
1 Set Ultimate Failure Concentration Curls

That is not all there is to it, when you lift, you have to pay close attention to your muscles. If they are not responding well, then you must stop because something is wrong. An example of this is once while doing Flyers, I felt a pop in my chest and my muscle when into spasms. Luckily I was listening to my muscles, and the rep I did before that rep I decided to take it a little easier because it felt weird. If I had not listened to my muscles, I could have easily torn the muscle, thankfully I only pulled it which took about a week to recover. That was on an Ultimate Failure set.

Unlike Alex, I HAVE posted numbers, so you can’t say I am a fucknut here. When I am finished doing Overtraining (sometime in July) I WILL post all the numbers. You can be the judge for yourself whether you think this routine is valid or not.

You can badger on Alex all you want, I’ll agree that he is an idiot, but you can’t go around saying that Overtraining is a myth or whatever.

You are referring to "forced sets, forced reps".

I suggest you do a little more reading and search the forums for "overtraining". You will find 99% of the people out there have a different definition than you.

Overtraining is NEVER any good. Try and get a new PR in your workouts. Try and go to a powerlifting meet overtrained. Try and run a marathon after running it yesterday.

 

[gymtime]

He brings nothing, peace his ass out

If we kicked everyone off who met this criteria, 90% of the board would be gone.

However, I must agree with Mr. Deadlifts. Posting erroneous information is no crime, as there are a precious few absolutes in weight training. But directing this kind of crap at newbies who could easily injure themselves is at least worth a look by the EF higher ups.

As I stated in Alex's last fit of verbal diarrhea, I've had a high tolerance for him until now. Just sort of thought of him as the Training board's village idiot. But enough is enough.

 

[Thaibox]

Mr. Deadlifts.