SSAlexSS needs to leave or change his attitude

[Thaibox]

I know he entertains some people. But, we're forgetting that this board is for people to learn and share knowledge, scientific and empirical. This little turd has posted nothing but total bullshit and now is directing it to newbies so they can fuck themselves up, become totally catabolic and look like he did in those pics. All he does is cause drama and spread misinformation with NO experience(or recent pics) to back it up. I respect everyones' right to have opinions on here, that's where learning comes from. But he preaches this shit as though its gospel. this shit head is making this board a joke. It pisses me off to think that some poor bro is going to take him seriously and compromise his training potential. Alex, when all of the vets on this board are criticizing you and telling you that you are WRONG, there's probably a reason.

 

[b fold the truth]

I have a pretty good idea who he is...and he is a vet on the boards. That is probably why he isn't being banned for his posts..

my opinion

B True

 

[Advaik]

Alex is not necessarily wrong, just confused. Personaly, I don't follow anything Alex says. I did, however, do more research into it and found that it is actually a very valid lifting routine. Yes, you need to know your limits, and you need to know them better than you've known anything you've ever done. You can totally fuck up your CNS and possibly even paralyze yourself doing it (I have a friend who can barely move now because he was overtraining on steriods, and he's only 27). I can't tell you if I am doing overtraining correctly or not, all I can tell you is that I am getting great gains, in both strength and size. I am taking certain precautions not to fuck up my CNS, and not cause any injury to myself. It is NOT a routine for newbies, like Alex advocates. You can seriously hurt yourself very easily doing overtraining, but if you do it correctly, it is just as good as being on gear.

Take it from me, 3 weeks into overtraining with 6 weeks to go, I am already getting alot of comments. People are telling me that it looks like I am wearing shoulder pads and some even comment that I might be on roids.

What I am trying to say is this, don't knock overtraining just because Alex is going about it the wrong way. Let him end up in a wheelchair, just don't go telling saying that overtraining is total bullshit.

 

[b fold the truth]

Alex? Is that you?

 

[Advaik]

And no I am not Alex, nor am I assosiated with him in anyway. I think he is a dumbass and is going to kill himself sooner or later. All I am saying is that overtraining is an actual routine. Alex is NOT doing it right, and is posting BS about it, but the routine is not BS.

 

[Advaik]

Okay, let me explain what overtraining really is.

It isn't training until you can't even move. That is extremely catabolic, and if you do ever do it, it should only be performed once a year to shock the system. It can be beneficial, but the risks far outweigh the benefit. Like I said, if you ever do this, ONLY do it to shock the system (IE incase you hit a wall in your training).

There are three degrees to train:
Maximum: Training until you feel comfortable.
Failure: Training until you can not get another rep out.
Overtrain: Training until you can not get another rep out, then doing it again.

Most people choose to train to their Maximum or to Failure. Either way is great, and I’ve read all the discussions on these boards about them. Neither has been proven to be better than the other. It all depends on the person; some people respond well to training to Failure, others respond well to training to their Maximum. However, no one really considers Overtraining. You can go about Overtraining in two ways. After you’ve trained to Failure you can either decrease the weight and train to Ultimate Failure, or you can have a long rest period and do an Ultimate Failure set. In other words, Overtraining is like doing two or three failure sets (depending on your level of training).

The way I like to Overtrain is instead of doing one lift for each isolated muscle, I will do two. I also do 5x6, so for each isolated muscle I am doing 10x6. The first lift I train to my Maximum. The next lift is usually my harder lift where I train to Failure. After I have trained to Failure I will take a 2-3 minute break and train to Ultimate Failure (where I HAVE to cheat to “some” degree, but not much).

An example of this is for my biceps:
5x6 Hammer Curls
3x6 Concentration Curls
1 Set Failure Concentration Curls
1 Set Ultimate Failure Concentration Curls

That is not all there is to it, when you lift, you have to pay close attention to your muscles. If they are not responding well, then you must stop because something is wrong. An example of this is once while doing Flyers, I felt a pop in my chest and my muscle when into spasms. Luckily I was listening to my muscles, and the rep I did before that rep I decided to take it a little easier because it felt weird. If I had not listened to my muscles, I could have easily torn the muscle, thankfully I only pulled it which took about a week to recover. That was on an Ultimate Failure set.

Unlike Alex, I HAVE posted numbers, so you can’t say I am a fucknut here. When I am finished doing Overtraining (sometime in July) I WILL post all the numbers. You can be the judge for yourself whether you think this routine is valid or not.

You can badger on Alex all you want, I’ll agree that he is an idiot, but you can’t go around saying that Overtraining is a myth or whatever.

 

[gmanlax7]

He brings nothing, peace his ass out

 

[sorerotators]

Okay, let me explain what overtraining really is.

It isn't training until you can't even move. That is extremely catabolic, and if you do ever do it, it should only be performed once a year to shock the system. It can be beneficial, but the risks far outweigh the benefit. Like I said, if you ever do this, ONLY do it to shock the system (IE incase you hit a wall in your training).

There are three degrees to train:
Maximum: Training until you feel comfortable.
Failure: Training until you can not get another rep out.
Overtrain: Training until you can not get another rep out, then doing it again.

Most people choose to train to their Maximum or to Failure. Either way is great, and I’ve read all the discussions on these boards about them. Neither has been proven to be better than the other. It all depends on the person; some people respond well to training to Failure, others respond well to training to their Maximum. However, no one really considers Overtraining. You can go about Overtraining in two ways. After you’ve trained to Failure you can either decrease the weight and train to Ultimate Failure, or you can have a long rest period and do an Ultimate Failure set. In other words, Overtraining is like doing two or three failure sets (depending on your level of training).

The way I like to Overtrain is instead of doing one lift for each isolated muscle, I will do two. I also do 5x6, so for each isolated muscle I am doing 10x6. The first lift I train to my Maximum. The next lift is usually my harder lift where I train to Failure. After I have trained to Failure I will take a 2-3 minute break and train to Ultimate Failure (where I HAVE to cheat to “some” degree, but not much).

An example of this is for my biceps:
5x6 Hammer Curls
3x6 Concentration Curls
1 Set Failure Concentration Curls
1 Set Ultimate Failure Concentration Curls

That is not all there is to it, when you lift, you have to pay close attention to your muscles. If they are not responding well, then you must stop because something is wrong. An example of this is once while doing Flyers, I felt a pop in my chest and my muscle when into spasms. Luckily I was listening to my muscles, and the rep I did before that rep I decided to take it a little easier because it felt weird. If I had not listened to my muscles, I could have easily torn the muscle, thankfully I only pulled it which took about a week to recover. That was on an Ultimate Failure set.

Unlike Alex, I HAVE posted numbers, so you can’t say I am a fucknut here. When I am finished doing Overtraining (sometime in July) I WILL post all the numbers. You can be the judge for yourself whether you think this routine is valid or not.

You can badger on Alex all you want, I’ll agree that he is an idiot, but you can’t go around saying that Overtraining is a myth or whatever.

You are referring to "forced sets, forced reps".

I suggest you do a little more reading and search the forums for "overtraining". You will find 99% of the people out there have a different definition than you.

Overtraining is NEVER any good. Try and get a new PR in your workouts. Try and go to a powerlifting meet overtrained. Try and run a marathon after running it yesterday.

 

[gymtime]

He brings nothing, peace his ass out

If we kicked everyone off who met this criteria, 90% of the board would be gone.

However, I must agree with Mr. Deadlifts. Posting erroneous information is no crime, as there are a precious few absolutes in weight training. But directing this kind of crap at newbies who could easily injure themselves is at least worth a look by the EF higher ups.

As I stated in Alex's last fit of verbal diarrhea, I've had a high tolerance for him until now. Just sort of thought of him as the Training board's village idiot. But enough is enough.

 

[Thaibox]

Mr. Deadlifts.

 

[Advaik]

Overtraining is training beyond failure. Training 2x a week, each time doing twice the normal load with included forced reps is overtraining. It's not excessive overtraining like Alex is advocating, but it is overtraining. I understand that everyone thinks overtraining is training to complete muscle failure, that's what the point of my posts are, to tell people that that is not it. Everyone has a false perception of this type of training routine, without knowing what it really is.

 

[Thaibox]

Overtraining is training beyond failure. Training 2x a week, each time doing twice the normal load with included forced reps is overtraining. It's not excessive overtraining like Alex is advocating, but it is overtraining. I understand that everyone thinks overtraining is training to complete muscle failure, that's what the point of my posts are, to tell people that that is not it. Everyone has a false perception of this type of training routine, without knowing what it really is.

You aren't wrong in what you are saying, but it is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed. Everything you said is invalid based on diction. Overtraining is not what you are defining it as. You're simply talking about training past failure, that is not overtraining. Overtraining is NOT a training option, it is a training pitfall. It is not a plateau breaker, its a gain breaker.

OVERTRAINING IS A MISTAKE. There is a delicate balance between maximum training and overtraining. It takes people years to find, and It is that medium that successful veteran bodybuilders have acheived.

The only thing you get out of overtraining is sick, small, and weak.

 

[SSAlexSS]

I know he entertains some people. But, we're forgetting that this board is for people to learn and share knowledge, scientific and empirical. This little turd has posted nothing but total bullshit and now is directing it to newbies so they can fuck themselves up, become totally catabolic and look like he did in those pics. All he does is cause drama and spread misinformation with NO experience(or recent pics) to back it up. I respect everyones' right to have opinions on here, that's where learning comes from. But he preaches this shit as though its gospel. this shit head is making this board a joke. It pisses me off to think that some poor bro is going to take him seriously and compromise his training potential. Alex, when all of the vets on this board are criticizing you and telling you that you are WRONG, there's probably a reason.

Great minds face great opposition.

I dont do scientific posts? Did you read the overtraining is anabolic thread? it has lots of science there. More science than in periodisation. Periodisation is actually based somewhat on over reaching and tapering off.

Unlike some people I dont post simple posts like "DO x sets of x reps of x exerce x amoutns of week" No I deliver scientific reason to what happens.


Some poor bro taking my advice? Great, look what advaik did and where he is now. Sure he is doing his thing, but it was based and inspired by me. I want more people to know the truth. Say whatever you like, but just because you swear and act tough - you dont sound convincing or truthful.

Besides when you take NITRO TECH and MYOSTIM you can overtrain yourself into a new growth by suing high volume high intensity methods. Thank you very much for publicizing my information. More and more people actually try my methods!

Why? I dont go around calling everyone names, I finished doing that in grade 3.

 

[SSAlexSS]

You aren't wrong in what you are saying, but it is completely irrelevant to what is being discussed. Everything you said is invalid based on diction. Overtraining is not what you are defining it as. You're simply talking about training past failure, that is not overtraining. Overtraining is NOT a training option, it is a training pitfall. It is not a plateau breaker, its a gain breaker.

OVERTRAINING IS A MISTAKE. There is a delicate balance between maximum training and overtraining. It takes people years to find, and It is that medium that successful veteran bodybuilders have acheived.

The only thing you get out of overtraining is sick, small, and weak.

Stop thrashing him. It works for him, let him do it. He is growing not you. Stop being jealous of his gains and start gaining yourself.

Just because he is using some techniques similiar to mine, doesnt mean that they suck. Look he is progressing, he is getting stronger, his biceps are stronger. Not small and weak.


Stop reading MIKE Mentzer. Ask real experts like Poliquen and others. Overtrainign CAN be beneficial if used properly. If used properly it can lead to great gains. Unfortunately people like you try to screen out the information.

Swearing like a thug doesnt make you look knowledgeble.

 

[SSAlexSS]

If we kicked everyone off who met this criteria, 90% of the board would be gone.

However, I must agree with Mr. Deadlifts. Posting erroneous information is no crime, as there are a precious few absolutes in weight training. But directing this kind of crap at newbies who could easily injure themselves is at least worth a look by the EF higher ups.

As I stated in Alex's last fit of verbal diarrhea, I've had a high tolerance for him until now. Just sort of thought of him as the Training board's village idiot. But enough is enough.

Erraneous information? I have sources, experts, ph.d's backing up my pieces of info. Who backs up yours? Your genetics and chemistry?


Many people have said that "newbies cant overwork" because they are inexpereinced and cant really push it. And now you say they can? Do you really expect a newbie to be able to go to the gym, pick up any substantial weight and go Dorian Yates balls to the wall? NO! Only advanced people can get such intensity.

Furthermore the article clearly said to make sure you dont overtraing for long period of time. it clearly said that it must be no longer than few weeks, and the article clearly said to back oof overtraining to a less stressful program. There is nothing wrong with that.

Hey atleast I dont say that you need to have dorian yates type of intensity, which incidently crippled him. I wouldnt advise anyone of going like dorian did since that kind of training is dangerous no matter what anyone says. Going to failure has some well recorded pitfalls down the road. By going HIT you wont do anything bad now, but after some time you will.


That article has references, most of the stuff I post has big experts sitting behind them. Dont diss them!

 

[gymtime]

Alex, If I want to, I can find "scientific evidence" to back up the idea that the sky is orange. I bet if I tried, I could find 20 of your "Ph.Ds" to back that up. Your "evidence" is only as good as you claim it is and is in direct conflict with my years of experience in the gym.

I have no intentions of trying to argue with you. It's pointless. People on this board have begged you to post pics of these "pipes" of yours, yet you refuse. You preach the overtraining gospel, and back it up with questionable references and expect everyone to just eat it up. I don't care how many books you've read. There simply is no substitute for experience, an asset you have precious little of.

Oh, and this tormented genius bit is getting a bit old as well.

I don't really think that you are really banning material. However, as long as you post this stuff, you can expect the rest of us to counterpoint everything you say. So get used to it.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Alex, If I want to, I can find "scientific evidence" to back up the idea that the sky is orange. I bet if I tried, I could find 20 of your "Ph.Ds" to back that up. Your "evidence" is only as good as you claim it is and is in direct conflict with my years of experience in the gym.

I have no intentions of trying to argue with you. It's pointless. People on this board have begged you to post pics of these "pipes" of yours, yet you refuse. You preach the overtraining gospel, and back it up with questionable references and expect everyone to just eat it up. I don't care how many books you've read. There simply is no substitute for experience, an asset you have precious little of.

Oh, and this tormented genius bit is getting a bit old as well.

I don't really think that you are really banning material. However, as long as you post this stuff, you can expect the rest of us to counterpoint everything you say. So get used to it.

Reason I dont show my pipes/phisique/stats is because I dont like bragging, I am too shy for that. Hey dorian yates did the same thing, he was mr o and he didnt go around bragging about his pipes either, and he behaved himself too calmy. Now wonder he is the shadow. He trained, come to the show, collect his trophies and go back home. You dont need to be a loud mouth to be great,expert,etc.

Just because you have trained longer doesnt mean that you are more expereinced. I am not saying you arent, I am just showing you that stats arent important. it is a merit of program that counts.

There are people who train for years and dont expereince progress. If i dont expreince progress for a week, a week, I do something. Ofcourse I am not an expert and I never claimed, howeever I have learned quite a bit. And I am still learning. That Is why i come here.


If we cooperate and share or knowldeges in a good way we can all benefit. Unfortunately some people (not you) try to "rock the boat".

 

[rockn2dmax]

Re: Re: SSAlexSS needs to leave or change his attitude

Why? I dont go around calling everyone names, I finished doing that in grade 3.

THAT"S FUNNY Alex... b/c I seem to remember you calling me a "Moron" last week in one of your bs threads... It won't be too long before the moderators get sick of you and you're gone! Enjoy your time while it lasts!

 

[rockn2dmax]

Reason I dont show my pipes/phisique/stats is because I dont like bragging, I am too shy for that. Hey dorian yates did the same thing, he was mr o and he didnt go around bragging about his pipes either, and he behaved himself too calmy. Now wonder he is the shadow. He trained, come to the show, collect his trophies and go back home. You dont need to be a loud mouth to be great,expert,etc.

I wonder if he was called out, like you have been, if he would have still hid??? I mean, do you ever plan on showing us what you look like??? Physique wise that is??? I'd love to goto a show where you were at... And if you really want people to try your stuff... just post the pics...

but the real reason you won't post pics has nothing todo with you "not bragging"... After a point, people will realize (as I have) that you just AREN'T THAT BIG... and you're training methods JUST DON'T WORK!

 

[gymtime]

Reason I dont show my pipes/phisique/stats is because I dont like bragging, I am too shy for that.

That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard on EF. And I post on the Chat board.

 

[solidj55]

I agree, ban this mother fucker. I hardley ever post over here because I powerlift so I stay mostly on the powerlifting forum. I dont know if any of you guys ever read or post there much but we are probably the most peaceful forum of all the message boards on this site. A question is never unanswered over there nor is there ever a post flaming someone. I love the powerlifting board as you can tell. Well a few days ago Faggot Ass Alex decides to post over there telling us powerlifting is stupid and pointless and he talked about how smart he is. Well I say fuck him. I hope your moms vagina itches and bleeds for the rest of her life you stupid fuck. All you do is post bullshit that you have no idea about. Your a waste of flesh and you are just breathing up good air that the rest of us deserve. You can act as intelligent as you want because no one believes it.

 

[SSAlexSS]

I agree, ban this mother fucker. I hardley ever post over here because I powerlift so I stay mostly on the powerlifting forum. I dont know if any of you guys ever read or post there much but we are probably the most peaceful forum of all the message boards on this site. A question is never unanswered over there nor is there ever a post flaming someone. I love the powerlifting board as you can tell. Well a few days ago Faggot Ass Alex decides to post over there telling us powerlifting is stupid and pointless and he talked about how smart he is. Well I say fuck him. I hope your moms vagina itches and bleeds for the rest of her life you stupid fuck. All you do is post bullshit that you have no idea about. Your a waste of flesh and you are just breathing up good air that the rest of us deserve. You can act as intelligent as you want because no one believes it.

Thank you very much! I really understand what kind of parties you get with your buddies!

Unlike drinking beer, us bodybuilders take our top quality proteins.

No wonder PL is such a cult sport. (nothing wrong with that)

 

[The_Mexican]

This thread aint right... I think its nice to have some goofballs on the board to keep things interesting. Also the argument that poor newbies might follow his wacked out routines is total bullshit. His routines get flamed bad enough that no one, newbie or not, would accident train using his methods.

He shouldnt be banned cause you dont like him Tai... just ignore him

 

[Welsh power house]

Just leave it as SSALEXSS is a full on 100% wanker and so is his bum chum Advaik....both porbably the same geeky computor nerd, wanna be huge cunts who has'nt got a clue what hes talking about, just having a laugh at everyone one stressin' out about his bullshit, i just laugh at twats like this, who i i knew i woyuld probably rape for fun.

Hes a faggot, fuck him, just type LOL as a reply to every one onf his posts!

LOL

 

[FitnessFrk]

It's plan and simple...Put up or shut up !

that's the way it used to be on these boards. if a person wants to talk shit about this and that training method that's fine and dandy. put your money where your mouth is and post pics of your progress.

 

[MrMuscle]

i have pictures that can prove that if you train the direct opposite of what you are saying alex, then you grow. let's see you produce pictures that show a 100 pounds weight gain in 9 years.

 

[mattcanning99]

Pics of SSAlexSS

Alex - The reason people get annoyed with what you say isn't because we disagree with you, but because you try to push your knowledge onto others like it is 100% correct and there is no changing it. You believe too strongly in certain topics and won't seem to listen to the other side of the argument. I've seen a similar problem with someone on the chat board lately, and it really annoys. The least you should do is allow yourself to accept the other side of any argument and not lock your opinions in stone so quickly, because, believe me, there is no way you know all the facts.

 

[ZZuluZ]

You insult Mike Mentzer yet I still remember you preaching HIT like it was a gift of god.

-Zulu

 

[SSAlexSS]

i have pictures that can prove that if you train the direct opposite of what you are saying alex, then you grow. let's see you produce pictures that show a 100 pounds weight gain in 9 years.

I will reach that. Even faster.

 

[Thaibox]

I will reach that. Even faster.

I have faith, if you keep training hard, you will someday reach 100 pounds.