Soreness=hypertrophy?

[TerraNoble]

Do you need to get some sort of soreness in order to get hypetrophy?

IMO, I don't think soreness is always necessary, but I still get very sore from ALMOST every good workout.

I do think it is a positive indicator of future hypertrophy , whereas a lack of soreness, IMO, is due to muscular adaptation and, likely, not training at or near failure. I am not saying you cannot grow without getting sore, I am saying that I do not believe you are growing optimally.

Incidentally, after 3 days in a row workout I am really sore now...Today, rest day....

Any take on this?

 

[scruples]

from what i read the two are not related

 

[Lord_Suston]

Soreness, is not directly corelated with optimum efficiency. It depends on amount of lactic acid and other toxins in the muslcle which are created during excercise. Stretching and other active recovery methods reduce soreness, but they don't reduce the usefulness of the prior workout..

 

[teen1216]

Soreness can be an indication of hypertrophy, but that is not always the case. Do not gauge a workout by how sore you get.

 

[wonderstanding]

but... but... but soreness feels so GOOOD!!!

 

[gwl9dta4]

Well i can tell you that for ME, if my biceps do not get sore, no matter what they do not grow. Now when i cycle exercises and reps they always get sore and grow. So for me soreness=hypetrophy.

 

[jeremys]

Well i can tell you that for ME, if my biceps do not get sore, no matter what they do not grow. Now when i cycle exercises and reps they always get sore and grow. So for me soreness=hypetrophy.

this is the case for me also

 

[skaman607]

everyone is different though, it might be needed by some people it might not be needed by other people, but what gwl9dta4 said about cycling exercises, is indicative of hypertrophy, because it is constantly changing the hypertrophy stimulus(sorry, I've been on the HST website a lot lately)

 

[Intenceman]

It can be- buit it is not in of itself a sufficient or necessary cause.

 

[TerraNoble]

Soreness that develops in the muscles during the 48 hours following a heavy workout was caused by the accumulation of lactic acid. We now know that lactic acid causes only fleeting discomfort

We still have a lot to learn, but the current consensus is that muscle soreness is caused by actual damage to the muscle. .

The Soreness Process



In heavy weight training, it's the eccentric or lowering phase that is thought to cause most of the damage.

the initial damage is mainly to the less flexible tendon tissue and the fast-twitch muscle fibers, which play the primary role in intense exercise. The tissue damage, especially to the cell membrane, allows calcium (and other metabolites) to accumulate in the muscle fiber, which produces more cell damage. The damage sets off a complex inflammatory reaction, which exacerbates the tenderness and stiffness, but eventually promotes healing. Depending on the intensity of the exercise - and the extent of the damage - the soreness usually subsides in 3-7 days.


Importantly, the recovery process makes the muscle more resistant to damage from subsequent exercise. What's more, Professors Jack H. Wilmore and David L. Costill, in their textbook Physiology of Sport and Exercise (Human Kinetics, 1994), add a corollary that will interest bodybuilders: "Some evidence suggests that this process is an important step in muscle hypertrophy."