i knew skip very well. he is what he says he is and in person he is not big like you would associate steriods with. he got his ass whipped in the nationals compare him to others which was years ago. he is older, been lifting heavy for a long time, and has great thickness from his training. meet him in person he has no look like guys who do steriods and watch him train and listen to his therioes like salt loading. knowing him as i do and being in sacramneto in the same gym he to me is truly natural 100% no doubt.