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lol.... help me to cut?, bulk?, cut?, bulk?. I see where your comming from with the girl situation....But remember this,
"When it rains it pours"
"When it rains it pours"
at 6'5'' you would hardly be "gigantic" at 300 lbs...you would not even be that big...think about your reasons for doing any of this, listen to the ones that come from you not your environment and if there are no internal reasons then quit worrying about it and just keep in shape...you don't even need weights to look good to most women
Argh, that is a horrible diet.
That's 4meals and whenever you get hungry you eat fructose. Fructose isn't the best thing for cutting, and there is way too little protein in that diet.
Shoot for 6-8meals a day. Drop the carbs, and go on a CKD. Research CKD if you don't know what it is on the diet board.
Eat protein, eat protein, and eat protein. While bulking I try to eat slightly above my bodyweight in grams of protein, but while cutting I shoot for MORE. Since you won't have carbs in your diet, it is very important to shoot high in protein to help prevent muscle loss.
Also, you aren't listing how much meat you are having, how many grams??? It is very important to know how much protein you get, I would guess to say very little.
Also, drop the shitty cell tech. What do you expect to get from that overpriced garbage, water weight? I wouldn't suggest taking creatine while cutting, but if you have to go with another brand ... and if you decide to do a CKD make sure none of your drinks have carbs in there.
-sk
That's 4meals and whenever you get hungry you eat fructose. Fructose isn't the best thing for cutting, and there is way too little protein in that diet.
Shoot for 6-8meals a day. Drop the carbs, and go on a CKD. Research CKD if you don't know what it is on the diet board.
Eat protein, eat protein, and eat protein. While bulking I try to eat slightly above my bodyweight in grams of protein, but while cutting I shoot for MORE. Since you won't have carbs in your diet, it is very important to shoot high in protein to help prevent muscle loss.
Also, you aren't listing how much meat you are having, how many grams??? It is very important to know how much protein you get, I would guess to say very little.
Also, drop the shitty cell tech. What do you expect to get from that overpriced garbage, water weight? I wouldn't suggest taking creatine while cutting, but if you have to go with another brand ... and if you decide to do a CKD make sure none of your drinks have carbs in there.
-sk
I am going to say a LOT here, because I only wish someone could tell me such things when I was your age. (Anyone who bickers about the length of the post, please, try to get acclamated to reading things longer than a comic book--say, a REAL book!--and shut the hell up 
)
Not all of them Lee. Many, yes, but then again...who gives a shit what scares people off?
What are they afraid of, that I'd eat them or beat them up? That's unlikely, so they're irrational people--a waste of time.
I am in this game for ME, not them.
Until you are going at the iron purely for yourself, you're short-sheeting your bed, brother. Trust me. I know it sounds like psychobabble--the same kind of bullshit you've been fed for years from all directions--but it's not B.S. It's true.
You are doing well. From your avatar, I definitely don't think you are fat. Even if you WERE smooth, your emphasis should be exclusively on building mass, mass, mass.
Err...you do know that even "friends" flat-out lie about that kind of shit, do you not?
What kind of friends say such things in front of you when they know it humiliates you, anyway?
And shoot, being a virgin at 17 is nothing, Lee. One of my best friends was a virgin until he was 21. TWENTY-ONE! Today, he is ready to marry.
Did I mention that his bride to be was a Miss Teen South Carolina a few years back?
Yep. No shit. Extremely pretty, very smart girl.
So I think he turned out okay. He finally realized there was no race to just get laid for the sake of bragging rights.
The lesson, glib as it is? Be yourself!
Do that, and one day sooner than you think, you'll wind up coupled with a fine gal, with whom you'll share something more substantial than a newbie orgasm.
Keep anxious about it, and you'll repel most girls like a skunk...especially that silly-shit, gossipy high school bunch, who are all about style and rarely, substance.
Let me tell you something else while I'm at it.
You can be the biggest, most cut motherfucker pretty much anywhere outside the gym, and I seriously doubt you're going to be banging "all of the hot chicks" around you on that basis alone. For every one woman that's turned on by some shredded guy, probably 6-8 others would be either neutral or turned off. (Being totally ripped can be threatening. In a relationship, they might feel pressure to stay in comparable shape, which they'll most likely fail in doing.)
The fact of the matter is, most women don't respond too heavily SOLELY to how you, specifically your body, looks (so long as you are not a circus freak or a tub of lard, though even truly fat guys still get laid).
No: the buck-toothed pencilneck who can talk lots of shit will always take home more tail than some introverted, shy bodybuilder.
And so what? What's so great about that? Sex is wonderful, but that kind of stupid promiscuity just isn't worth it these days. I also don't think most your age are emotionally sophisticated enough to handle everything it entails anyway; then again, I am a romantic, and much as I like the idea of just feeling good, I DO think most sex should be about a little more than blowing a load.
It used to irritate the shit out of me, too. I know where you are coming from.
I was easily the most muscular guy in my high school. I'm not really a shrimp, but that's not saying a whole lot...the school seemed to be anti-lifting. The football players were a joke; at least half of them didn't even lift consistently, and most of those that did looked like they'd never worked out a day in their life.
Only two other guys took the iron seriously at all.
I like to think I'm not ugly to begin with, either. So it frustrated me when I watched as pimpled-up, scrawny little guys with the big mouths garnered so much attention. If they were really slick, it'd be one thing...but these clowns were flapping their fucking arms and squealing, "CHICKEN!" apropos nothing, in some stupid effort to be funny. They were MORONS.
The sheer lunacy of that crap would sometimes make me want to put my fist through the wall. It was just so damn DUMB!
At some point during high school, I simply realized these people weren't worth the thought. I was pissing away valuable time by getting mad at their bullshit. And it hurt me. It made me uneasy.
So once I was comfortable with myself and ignored what those tards were doing, I had immediate positive feedback. It was nice.
The same went for lifting, too. I used to be obsessed with whether or not my arms were bigger than they were the week before. I would pose for probably hours every day at one point, and to this day, I really don't know WHY! I wasn't competing then. I was just totally anal about the whole thing.
When I calmed down a bit, I found I could still be entirely dedicated to getting JACKED, and it was probably easier to do because I wasn't expending so much nervous energy.
I know that is extremely hard to do at 17, 18, hell, ANY age; but once you master it, you'll enjoy lifting AND life much more. The more fun something is, the more apt you are to succeed.
I realize that's not what you were looking for, but it sounded as if you were letting what other people thought, or things which were beyond your immediate control, define your sense of self, which isn't heathly.
The bulk or cut thing is in your court. What do you WANT to do? You are in this for the long term...if I were you, I'd take advantage of those teenage hormones and keep gaining mass. You look lean enough if your immediate goal is just to have a body sufficient for getting laid.
Besides, a girl might ooh or compliment a nice set of abs, but that's over in two seconds, and you just spent 3 months getting them that could've been better used, IMO, by adding inches of thickness all over.
)Lee said:
Not all of them Lee. Many, yes, but then again...who gives a shit what scares people off?
What are they afraid of, that I'd eat them or beat them up? That's unlikely, so they're irrational people--a waste of time.
I am in this game for ME, not them.
Until you are going at the iron purely for yourself, you're short-sheeting your bed, brother. Trust me. I know it sounds like psychobabble--the same kind of bullshit you've been fed for years from all directions--but it's not B.S. It's true.
You are doing well. From your avatar, I definitely don't think you are fat. Even if you WERE smooth, your emphasis should be exclusively on building mass, mass, mass.
Err...you do know that even "friends" flat-out lie about that kind of shit, do you not?
What kind of friends say such things in front of you when they know it humiliates you, anyway?
And shoot, being a virgin at 17 is nothing, Lee. One of my best friends was a virgin until he was 21. TWENTY-ONE! Today, he is ready to marry.
Did I mention that his bride to be was a Miss Teen South Carolina a few years back?
Yep. No shit. Extremely pretty, very smart girl.
So I think he turned out okay. He finally realized there was no race to just get laid for the sake of bragging rights.
The lesson, glib as it is? Be yourself!
Do that, and one day sooner than you think, you'll wind up coupled with a fine gal, with whom you'll share something more substantial than a newbie orgasm.
Keep anxious about it, and you'll repel most girls like a skunk...especially that silly-shit, gossipy high school bunch, who are all about style and rarely, substance.
Let me tell you something else while I'm at it.
You can be the biggest, most cut motherfucker pretty much anywhere outside the gym, and I seriously doubt you're going to be banging "all of the hot chicks" around you on that basis alone. For every one woman that's turned on by some shredded guy, probably 6-8 others would be either neutral or turned off. (Being totally ripped can be threatening. In a relationship, they might feel pressure to stay in comparable shape, which they'll most likely fail in doing.)
The fact of the matter is, most women don't respond too heavily SOLELY to how you, specifically your body, looks (so long as you are not a circus freak or a tub of lard, though even truly fat guys still get laid).
No: the buck-toothed pencilneck who can talk lots of shit will always take home more tail than some introverted, shy bodybuilder.
And so what? What's so great about that? Sex is wonderful, but that kind of stupid promiscuity just isn't worth it these days. I also don't think most your age are emotionally sophisticated enough to handle everything it entails anyway; then again, I am a romantic, and much as I like the idea of just feeling good, I DO think most sex should be about a little more than blowing a load.
It used to irritate the shit out of me, too. I know where you are coming from.
I was easily the most muscular guy in my high school. I'm not really a shrimp, but that's not saying a whole lot...the school seemed to be anti-lifting. The football players were a joke; at least half of them didn't even lift consistently, and most of those that did looked like they'd never worked out a day in their life.
Only two other guys took the iron seriously at all.
I like to think I'm not ugly to begin with, either. So it frustrated me when I watched as pimpled-up, scrawny little guys with the big mouths garnered so much attention. If they were really slick, it'd be one thing...but these clowns were flapping their fucking arms and squealing, "CHICKEN!" apropos nothing, in some stupid effort to be funny. They were MORONS.
The sheer lunacy of that crap would sometimes make me want to put my fist through the wall. It was just so damn DUMB!
At some point during high school, I simply realized these people weren't worth the thought. I was pissing away valuable time by getting mad at their bullshit. And it hurt me. It made me uneasy.
So once I was comfortable with myself and ignored what those tards were doing, I had immediate positive feedback. It was nice.
The same went for lifting, too. I used to be obsessed with whether or not my arms were bigger than they were the week before. I would pose for probably hours every day at one point, and to this day, I really don't know WHY! I wasn't competing then. I was just totally anal about the whole thing.
When I calmed down a bit, I found I could still be entirely dedicated to getting JACKED, and it was probably easier to do because I wasn't expending so much nervous energy.
I know that is extremely hard to do at 17, 18, hell, ANY age; but once you master it, you'll enjoy lifting AND life much more. The more fun something is, the more apt you are to succeed.
I realize that's not what you were looking for, but it sounded as if you were letting what other people thought, or things which were beyond your immediate control, define your sense of self, which isn't heathly.
The bulk or cut thing is in your court. What do you WANT to do? You are in this for the long term...if I were you, I'd take advantage of those teenage hormones and keep gaining mass. You look lean enough if your immediate goal is just to have a body sufficient for getting laid.
Besides, a girl might ooh or compliment a nice set of abs, but that's over in two seconds, and you just spent 3 months getting them that could've been better used, IMO, by adding inches of thickness all over.
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Ferrigno is 6'3'' in person...just for the record, he is about the same height as me. But at 300 pounds and cut he would be a pretty big guy....but who is gonna complain...Lee think about it, above average women, I mean total package women with brains, looks, and class don't end up with Joe Average Aberecrombie Model....just a thought
Lord_Suston
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if you waqnt to put in the effort then i would suggest eating about 3000cals a day and lift 3-4 times a week. On top of that though you need to sprint 2-3times a weeks. No they don't ave to be marathon session but 4-8 100m sprints will cause your body to start sheding the fat left and right plus sparing a lot of muscle people lose when doing cardio.
Need some carbs to fule your workout. suggest rye bread or oatmeal abou 1.5-2 hours beforea workout, not too much but maybe 100g an some protein. Cut out most fat except unsaturated like fish oil, nut ect....
Need some carbs to fule your workout. suggest rye bread or oatmeal abou 1.5-2 hours beforea workout, not too much but maybe 100g an some protein. Cut out most fat except unsaturated like fish oil, nut ect....
BigBadBootyDaddy29
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Lee, let me just add one thing. I'm not a whole hell of a lot older than you, but I'm 24, and that is a big difference from 17. I posted what I did before because you seemed determined to add to your frame, and it seemed to me that you had a change of heart not because you wanted it, but because of other influences.
You need to train for you, and you alone. Sure, some goofy 15 yr old girl will take Justin Timberlake over Bill Kazmaier, but who cares?? You need to do what makes YOU feel good in your own skin. Don't worry about getting laid, trust me, I speak from experience, worrying about "getting laid" will lead you to do some pretty dumb things, and this will lead to NOTHING but trouble. Not to be gruff, but until you meet a quality girl, you're better off jacking off to internet porn, so listen to someone who's been there and done that, running up the notches on your bed post is over-rated, plus I will bet the farm that your friends are either flat out lying or exaggerating when they say 99% of the shit they do. WHat a girl worth fucking will find most attractive about you is your dedicationto whatever you want, if it's weighing 350, then thats it, if it's running cross country, then there ya go to.
I am just telling you to do what YOU want because you want it , not because somebody elsetells you this. You'll be happy and a better person for it, then everything else will just magically fall into place......Trust me.
You need to train for you, and you alone. Sure, some goofy 15 yr old girl will take Justin Timberlake over Bill Kazmaier, but who cares?? You need to do what makes YOU feel good in your own skin. Don't worry about getting laid, trust me, I speak from experience, worrying about "getting laid" will lead you to do some pretty dumb things, and this will lead to NOTHING but trouble. Not to be gruff, but until you meet a quality girl, you're better off jacking off to internet porn, so listen to someone who's been there and done that, running up the notches on your bed post is over-rated, plus I will bet the farm that your friends are either flat out lying or exaggerating when they say 99% of the shit they do. WHat a girl worth fucking will find most attractive about you is your dedicationto whatever you want, if it's weighing 350, then thats it, if it's running cross country, then there ya go to.
I am just telling you to do what YOU want because you want it , not because somebody elsetells you this. You'll be happy and a better person for it, then everything else will just magically fall into place......Trust me.
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