Should I lift with a Shirt?

[The mann]

Grantsdu,

NO,NO,NO........towards speedemon....i'm cool with you and most on this board.this guy has nothing but negative shit to talk and puts down everything everyone posts.he don't like equipment,TUFF SHIT,he don't like the training..MORE TUFF SHIT............................

 

[Deciever]

yeah grant, nothing i said was to you, dont worry about it

 

[powerlifterjay]

speed demon

Speed demon the boards are a training aid. It helps work a cetrtain portian of the lift. Its a modified rack lockout. I do raw bench every week. And i got more gym time , injuries, broken blood vessels, and have had blood come out of my eyes from squttin too heavy. RAW. I do not want your approval. If you wanna little increase on your bench then check your reps and frequency. Hit the tris more. Work your back harder. There are 200 ways to increase a bench press. And do i feel good when i bench with my shirt yes i do. Because if all shirts were outlawed today i would still be ranked what i am. Do you use knee wraps? Or wrist wraps? Or is that cheating too? I can squat 650 with belt only , dead 550 belt only. Everyone here is strong. The equipment is allowed. it slike race cars they way you drive doesnt chenge too much , but the cars get faster so you drive to accomadte the updated status. Yes i compete WPO, and held a check in my hand. I didnt bring that up to say what i have done i brought it up to make a point that i fits that easy go get a shirt and becoem pro. I have put more in to my training then you could imagine. I have busted my ass , and i train fuckin twice as hard as any bodybuilder i know and the ones i do knwo would never dispute that either. Its too obvious. So with out sounding rude because i knwo you rlooking for help, this is a powerliftin gboard and by chnace most here compete. If you wanna increase the old fashion way no boards just work, email me and i will give you a sample of my raw bench routine i currently use. If your interested. If your here to question our approach your at the wrong place. No one is intersted in hearing what you gotta say. the training board will be more your speed.

 

[CytoMel]

first off i wouldn't even know where to get a "shirt".i wouldn't wear one if i did,i would rather get stronger to push the weight not but a "shirt".i bench no where near what you bench but i will admit that is alot without the shirt but i'm not impressed if you have to wear one to do 600.sorry,can't buy into it. and i have trained as a bodybuilder for years and i wanted to learn more about powerlifting as i thought it was.not shirts,boards and all that shit.does anyone on here lift without these things?????do you really feel good after making a lift in this shirt?and you say go win money??what does that mean?do you win money at these meets?i have heard of the wpo but can't say i know the details of it,but i beleive in old school sweat and determination .please respect my opinion.it pisses me off i come here and to answer my questions you direct me to other sites to read!isn't that why we are on these boards?

You are right, you shuldn't buy a shirt, you should buy a time machine! Go back to the 1970's and you will be satsfied. Wait, without progression there would be no internet (you wouldnt have a forum to cry in, no cell phones and everyone would be benchng raw.

Powerlifting is a sport. So is football, basketball and baseball.

How have these sports changed in the last 30 yrs?

Football-better pads, stronger, lighter, better shoes all help increse performance and protect injury

basketball- Much better shoes less afros!

Baseball- Better helmets, elbow gaurds, shin guards for hitters, tighter baseballs for more home runs

See, if powerlifting never got performance enhancing and injury preventive equipment then the sport would pateau (hate that word) and there would be no progress and a lot more injuries.

I can tell by your post that you have a tiny little bench press and a shirt woudnt help you much anyways. So crawl back to the smith machine with your pink spandex hot pants cause you don't belong with great lifters like most of the members of this board.

 

[aka-tapout]

holy shit guys i hope i never piss you all off
to the original person who posted i cant even remember now: the shirt adds about 100 lbs on my bench
to speeddemon not really because it does the weight for me but it protects my shoulder
ask everyone here who has seen me bench i go ridiciously slow down because the pain in my elbow and shoulder gets so bad that if i go fast it would kill me
i prd the other day i did 315 for 5----330 for 3----275 for 7----225 for 14 or 16----all prs---why i worked through the pain and elbow getting better
but with a shirt i am benching a respectable 445(will be stronger now) because i dont feel the pain in shoulder and it cuts elbow pain in half.
in body building the guys on stage i'm sure look impressive to you but they are all jacked up--is that cheating whats the difference in a bench shirt for power lifting or aas to look better on stage---yes they train hard but the chemicals not just juice--insulin,lasix,hgh,igf-1 and the list goes on is advanced just like power lifting equipment has advanced
i'm not saying power lifters arent jacked as well but why isnt that an issue and equipment is--what about creatine,andros,is that cheating--they help performance as does the shirt
you got to get with the times bro or you will be left behind--your opinion-your entitled to it but i would not voice it that way on a power lifting board.
thats like going to the boss to bitch about the boss

 

[Imnotdutch]

first off i wouldn't even know where to get a "shirt".i wouldn't wear one if i did,i would rather get stronger to push the weight not but a "shirt".i bench no where near what you bench but i will admit that is alot without the shirt but i'm not impressed if you have to wear one to do 600.sorry,can't buy into it.and i have trained as a bodybuilder for years and i wanted to learn more about powerlifting as i thought it was.not shirts,boards and all that shit.does anyone on here lift without these things?????do you really feel good after making a lift in this shirt?and you say go win money??what does that mean?do you win money at these meets?i have heard of the wpo but can't say i know the details of it,but i beleive in old school sweat and determination .please respect my opinion.it pisses me off i come here and to answer my questions you direct me to other sites to read!isn't that why we are on these boards?

You aren't impressed unless PJ can do 600 without a shirt??? LMAO. That is ridiculous. How much do you bench without a shirt?? Please quote numbers where you used a bench and a bar.......without a smith machine or any other type of machine you care to mention.

Fact is, most people here compete and do whatever they can, whilst working within the rules, to win. The rules say shirts are allowed......so they use them. When you are pressing as much weight as some of the posters you need a shirt in order to prevent injuries. If you want to think that the equipment will give you big lifts go and get yourself some and PROVE IT......somehow I think you wont and you'll just make some pathetic excuse about how you are better than that.

For the record, when I lift its just me and the bar....and a bit of chalk. But then most people here lift a heck of a lot more than me. Go figure!!

PowerlifterJay,
I would be interested in seeing your raw workout. If you find the time could you send a copy to [email protected] ?

 

[The mann]

Imnotdutch,

where ya been brother........you been hiding.............

 

[k1401]

hey now who's been hiding??????? (The Mann)

 

[Imnotdutch]

Imnotdutch,

where ya been brother........you been hiding.............

Hey ,
Just been a little busy with my Uni course......and applying for jobs. I see the board still attracts the dumbasses (SSAlexSS, speedwotshisname)......some things never change. So hows the training going??

Later....

 

[The mann]

training is good man,i have not been on here awhile.doing a meet in a few weeks,gonna go get my butt whooped,but i'll have fun.what about you man...........