Short Cycle Theory Revealed

[paridhm]

I was thinking more in the order of 3 week, as advocated by Nelson Montana. These are VERY APPEALING to me because I am an NCAA Athlete, aspriring to the NFL... I am already 270 and lean... I really only need AAS for strength gains and small amount of mass (280 is about as big as i'll ever need to be).

My logic behind a short cycle is this: I always saw gains of 5-10 pounds in the first 3 weeks while using non-aromatizing AAS and Femara. These had to have been LBM gains. Why not stop the cycle there and recover in half the time.

This subject is very intresting to me. If you were to run a tren, and say winny cycle for 4 weeks, what dosages would you run?

 

[Throw2Far]

This subject is very intresting to me. If you were to run a tren, and say winny cycle for 4 weeks, what dosages would you run?

Personally I would run 50mg Tren ED and 50mg Winny ED, but I am much more conservative than most on the boards... That with Adex throughout and nolva afterwards...

 

[ass_face]

Look at my AVATAR.....5''10, 205lbs, 7%BF.

I have never used a testosterone--or ANY Aromatizing steroid for that matter(with the exceptoin of Boldenon--which TECHNICALY aromatizes though sever so slightly.) I use primarily 6 week cycles, followed by 4-6 weeks off. My gains have been slow and steady, and not dramatic--like dbol,deca,tren, test, drol. But I keep every pound of lean tissue that I build during my cycle period--AND i continue to make gains throughout PCT. I have no acne whatseoever, no gyno, and a full head of hair.

The TOURTISE always wins.

SLOW and STEADY.

Quality ove QUANTITY.

Ahhhh... a man that has figured it out... I usually take 8 weeks off and the only PCT I use is nolvadex (clomid blows), but basically we are on the same path.

 

[Ross]

Ahhhh... a man that has figured it out... I usually take 8 weeks off and the only PCT I use is nolvadex (clomid blows), but basically we are on the same path.

RIGHT ON BROTHER!

 

[Zircon]

In what way does clomid blow/suck?

I uee clomid, I get frickin crazy zits on it, not cool. I have nolva, will be doing that next time.

Was thinking of alternating between clomid and nolva actually.

 

[ass_face]

In what way does clomid blow/suck?

I uee clomid, I get frickin crazy zits on it, not cool. I have nolva, will be doing that next time.

Was thinking of alternating between clomid and nolva actually.

I personally do not like Clomid. I get Acne, and I feel melancholy. With Nolvadex, I seem to recover faster with no sides. I have used both... 20mg of Nolva and 25mg of clomid a day, but now I just go with Nolvadex for 20mg a day. Considering that my cycles are short, very little PCT is needed anyway. My balls are never shrunken.

 

[WannaBeBig72]

I've run 2 long cycles 14 weeks (test/eq and test/eq/dbol). The gains really seem to slow down after week 8 or 9. It's also mentally kind of tough to stay on for that long for some reason. I'm thinking about giving a short cycle a try next time out. I was thinking.

winny 50mg ed wks 1-6
prop 150mgs eod wks1-6
npp 100mgs eod wks1-6

Will I need HCG for PCT with a 6 weeker?

 

[Ross]

Clomid has more pronounced opthomological sides, decreases Pituitary Sensitivity, and affects mood.

Nolva is more potent mg for mg....

However, If only non-aromatizing steroids are used...Tribestan or Tribex would suffice.

 

[Throw2Far]

IMO: I would do a a couple around week 4 because you start to lose your lh sensitivity around weeks 5-6... Thats just being safe though, most people will tell you on a 6 weeker u wont need it.

 

[WannaBeBig72]

IMO: I would do a a couple around week 4 because you start to lose your lh sensitivity around weeks 5-6... Thats just being safe though, most people will tell you on a 6 weeker u wont need it.

Thanks man...

You think I could get 10 pounds of keepable muscle out of that 6 week cycle??