'Shocked and Horrified' by Larry Mosqueda, Ph.D.

[the nature boy]

I am always shocked and amazed at how the leftists are stuck in the past. This Ph.D which, by the way stands for Piled Higher and Deeper, is more of a pussy and afraid to stand up and fight putting his life on the line. He enjoys he freedom of speech (tripe that it is) due to the actions of the US. He is an insult to those who have died, he has belittled their death, and the death of those Americans soldiers, Marines, etc that have fought and died or been injured for this country.

Hope, the war doesn't start up over here, cause I will have a hard time defending the likes of him.

Stuck in the past? What's your point? WTC and the pentagon were in the past. Should we forget that? No!

Why would you have a hard time defending him? BECAUSE HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH? Can you disprove what he wrote? Please do.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Velvett,

Good post.

But before anyone gets on any bandwagons, I have a few questions for Americans out there:

How many of you think the government should not act in its own best interest?

How much of this is offset in the cosmic sense by the billions and billions that the US dispenses in foreign aid each year? How about all of the technological breakthroughs we share with the world?

How many of you are willing to give up your standard of living so that the US can be considered a paragon of virtue?

How many of you honestly and truly give a shit about any of those events?

 

[the nature boy]

Doubting America? That's what Leftist Propaganda is supposed to make you do.

P.S. to chesty - Right on, bruvva!!

Doubting america? To question why things are and how they are being presented is not doubting america.

Personally I think Bin Ladden did it. But I have about as much proof as anyone else.

I ask you X, is the stuff written in the essay above true or untrue? And how is it doubting america?

 

[chesty]

What truth does he speak? Jane Fonda spoke the truth when she turned over to the captors of American military personel a note handed to them by them to be carried home to let their families know they were alive. Instead she handed the note over which resutled in the death of some of them.

Yes, the wtc is in the recent past.

Why is it hard to believe that we do what is best for us? Do you not do the same?

 

[the nature boy]

Velvett,

Good post.

But before anyone gets on any bandwagons, I have a few questions for Americans out there:

How many of you think the government should not act in its own best interest?

How much of this is offset in the cosmic sense by the billions and billions that the US dispenses in foreign aid each year? How about all of the technological breakthroughs we share with the world?

How many of you are willing to give up your standard of living so that the US can be considered a paragon of virtue?

How many of you honestly and truly give a shit about any of those events?

Governments are supposed to act on it's own interests. But to kill thousands or millions either directly or indirectly to meet it's interests is insane and wrong. We're all humans right?

Does giving out money to governments make up for all the stuff written above make everything ok? What do you think? And I can name a number of governments that we give aid to that are corrupt and un-democratic and violently opress their own people. And we give Cuba shit for not having elections. Please.

Look, I love america, and I'll die for her, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to criticize crimes that have been commited in the past, because if we forget the past, we are doomed to repeat it.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

TNB,

Good answer.

 

[freshr1]

What truth does he speak? Jane Fonda spoke the truth when she turned over to the captors of American military personel a note handed to them by them to be carried home to let their families know they were alive. Instead she handed the note over which resutled in the death of some of them.

Yes, the wtc is in the recent past.

Why is it hard to believe that we do what is best for us? Do you not do the same?

Jane Fonda? WTF?

Please disprove any of the point that this PhD..err...Piled Higer and Deeper .. made (what was your education again?). He just listed a bunch of facts. The US isnt as innocent in international murders as you believe. There is a reason why terrorism exists, and it isnt because they're jealous of the US. Only American think the rest of the world is jealous of them.

 

[the nature boy]

What truth does he speak? Jane Fonda spoke the truth when she turned over to the captors of American military personel a note handed to them by them to be carried home to let their families know they were alive. Instead she handed the note over which resutled in the death of some of them.

Yes, the wtc is in the recent past.

Why is it hard to believe that we do what is best for us? Do you not do the same?

Please clarify what you mean in your first paragraph. I don't see how the two coorelate.

As for doing the best for myself, you're damn right I'm going to do that. But am I going to step on and kill innocent people to get my way? No way.

 

[the nature boy]

TNB,

Good answer.

Matt, while I don't always agree with what you say, your opinons are solid and IMO you are one of the most objective persons on this board.

Isn't it fucking great that we live in a society where we can debate this kind of stuff. In some other countries we'd be shot for this.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!! (even thought I don't think I beleive in GOD.... but you get the point).

 

[2Thick]

It seems that this board (along with most of humanity) judges the quality of "THE TRUTH" on a continuum, which is directly correlated to how much "THE TRUTH" corresponds to the individual's personal beliefs. In other words, if the facts do not agree with your viewpoints, then they must be flawed.

This is the type of behavior that reinforces Rousseau’s view of humanity (as inherently evil). Note that Rousseau did not add any theological connotation to his theory.