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Sesame Street to introduce HIV-positive Muppet

well to be honest i think the muppet got it form bert and ernie... has anyone noticed how thin burt is getting... he's wasting away and such.
 
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starfish said:



I disagree...

No one is immune from getting AIDS. Yeah, your behavior can put you at a higher risk... but I've never heard of someone being immune.

a gay man in san fransisco (where else) has T cells which HIV cannot penetrate for some reason

and a whole bunch of ethiopian prostitues living in the same village





as for whether they will go into the harsh details of it cockdezl.....no probably not. then again do you expect a child to understand that stuff? yes u are right it is socilisation, but Africa needs that, aids sufferes are shunned in some parts of africa, odd considering most ofthem have it in certain parts.

it will HOPEFULLY show them that they dont have to worry about using the same toilet seat as a postive person, how to react if someone cuts themselves etc. and i hope lay the foundations for proper sex education later in life
 
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danielson said:


a gay man in san fransisco (where else) has T cells which HIV cannot penetrate for some reason

and a whole bunch of ethiopian prostitues living in the same village


So they can prove that these people will always be immune to every strain of HIV for their entire life?
 
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starfish said:



So they can prove that these people will always be immune to every strain of HIV for their entire life?

hmm

well in the case of the vaccine (if its working) it only immunises against 1 type of HIV. its based on research from macrophages from these ethiopians so one assume they arent immune to both types

the gay man has T cells which dissallow any HIV to enter them. the show i was watching wasnt advanced enough to state whether he was immune against both types. but since both virus's are similar (HIV-2 is the one less suited to human hosts i tthink) both would insert themselves into humans in the same way

unfortunate;y they think a 3rd strain is forming in thailand. pity because i hear the girls over there are well up for it :D
 
oh yeah and the prostitutes immunity only exists while the are having sex regularly. once they stop, so does the immunity. no-one knows why.

the man will presumably have the immunity his whole life. most of his life partners have kicked it already
 
danielson said:
oh yeah and the prostitutes immunity only exists while the are having sex regularly. once they stop, so does the immunity. no-one knows why.

the man will presumably have the immunity his whole life. most of his life partners have kicked it already


How can they be immune if the "lose their immunity once they stop having sex"? That seems more like HIV resistant to me.

And as rapidly as HIV changes (certain drugs don't even phase it now) how can they know these people are immune to all HIV.?
 
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plornive said:
I think the difficult part will be explaining how the muppet became exposed to HIV.

Usually HIV is transmitted sexually. .......

I think this is a good idea. However, the first question that comes to mind is how it is going to be explained to kids without either teaching them everything about sex or giving them a fairy-tale view of HIV.

African children are exposed mostly via two methods:
1. The fetus gets it in the womb from the HIV+ mother.
2. There is a common myth among African males that if they have sex with a virgin child, they will be cured of the disease. It's not uncommon the daughters are infected by their fathers.
 
starfish said:



How can they be immune if the "lose their immunity once they stop having sex"? That seems more like HIV resistant to me.

And as rapidly as HIV changes (certain drugs don't even phase it now) how can they know these people are immune to all HIV.?

ok resistant then :)

the whole prostitue thing confuses the shit outta me. they arent resistant once they stop having sex. they contract it once stoppng sex. yet their macrophages are being used as the basis for the vaccine (i think). so they are having an immune reaction where their macropages are killing HIV

good pont on the mutations. it hasnt happened yet, presumably because their immune cells wont allow it, or that as much as the virus mutates their mmune system still recognises it as nonself.....who knowsd

the gay guy in sanfransisco screwed a lot of guys n his time and nothings happeed yet. i cant say i completely understand the science behind a lot of ths because they dont release very much info on it :<

natureboy, they did all get HIV but only when they stopped having sex. odd huh? thats what steve jones said and he's *super* famous :)
 
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