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Sarge's Lifting Chronicles 2006-2007

Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

[get your own f*ing journal, CS]Interesting that you mention that, since I've actually been dealing with the same issue. I've been doing one-week deloads, and the next PR phase has gone pretty well (i.e., average of 5 PR weeks after an appropriate rampup). But I've always felt like I didn't recover quite as fully as I would have liked, in part because, even though I can usually tell on Monday that that week will be my last, I've gone ahead with Wednesday and Friday's workouts, gotten (or occasionally failed on) some grinding PRs, and probably put myself in a bigger hole as a result.

This week, after completing Monday's workout, which hit me like a train, I decided to back off immediately and essentially do a 1.5 week deload (light workouts W and F, as well as next week). Another factor in this decision was knee pain after shady form (knees coming in, too much bounce) as my squat stalled, but it should be beneficial CNS-wise, too. Unfortunately, since it's happening concurrently with your deload, I can't tell you definitively whether it was a good idea yet.[/get your own f*ing journal, CS]

In short, if you're feeling pretty beat up, two weeks of deloading sounds like a good way to go.
 
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I think you did the right thing it sounds like. No need to do Wednesday's just to "be sure."

I took that week as "just having a bad week" and now i know for future reference that I should stop there before I hurt myself.

The funny thing is... I didn't add a whole lot to my bench (only 5lbs come to think of it). Gotta be the caloric restriction I guess at this point in time.

You should have your own journal :) You always have great, sound advice i'm sure people could learn a thing or four by reading along.

2 weeks ... damn, ok. After tonights Day 5, if I feel like doing it... i have 2 days off, maybe i'll take 3 and see how i'm doing monday.
 
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Sarge_ said:
You should have your own journal :) You always have great, sound advice i'm sure people could learn a thing or four by reading along.
lol, I almost didn't include the journal joke because I knew this would be suggested. I don't want to do the journal thing. Maybe someday. :p

I think you're right about cutting calories being the reason your lifts stalled. Given that you aren't doing heavy squats and deads, you probably didn't manage to bury yourself too badly even if, with hindsight, you might've stopped a few workouts earlier. FWIW, I usually start to feel better and eager to get back to regular lifting around Friday of my deload weeks. So not feeling recovered midway through the week isn't necessarily a cause for concern or for committing to a second light week (as you already realize).
 
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Whenever I get worn out, the immune system drops and I get a cold. If you have that kinda problem, start upping the c and zinc in preventative fashion?

Also maybe try and get some uv rays?
 
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Cynical Simian said:
Since the last sentence had a '?', here's an answer (that I've posted before).
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colds.html

So what you're saying is that just because well over thirty studied have concluded that vitamin c supplementation has extremely little to likely no benefit in cold prevention or severity reduction that I am, therefore, in fact, wrong?

Whatever man.

:p

Airborne is Zinc based and that works for me... might be psychosomatic (sp?)
 
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Cynical Simian said:
lol, I almost didn't include the journal joke because I knew this would be suggested. I don't want to do the journal thing. Maybe someday. :p

I think you're right about cutting calories being the reason your lifts stalled. Given that you aren't doing heavy squats and deads, you probably didn't manage to bury yourself too badly even if, with hindsight, you might've stopped a few workouts earlier. FWIW, I usually start to feel better and eager to get back to regular lifting around Friday of my deload weeks. So not feeling recovered midway through the week isn't necessarily a cause for concern or for committing to a second light week (as you already realize).
hehe :artist:

FWIW? WTF?! were are all these "new" acronyms coming from? lmao...

Very good, thanks for some insight bro.

Kab: Vit C is at 3 grams a day every day... i have 1g caps i pop 3x a day with my other supps and whatnot (fish oil, gluc r, potassium, B6, multi, ect.)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

No workout last night. Just relaxed.

This morning woke up before my alarm (hasn't happened in about a month).

My body is healing, I felt refreshed and very good this morning. Very good sign. Feeling good still.

Going to do my light Day 5 tonight and try squatting again :)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

I'm going back to 3x week training when I get back from da Ahhhhnold. Because i'll be taking on a full credit course load at that time.

HST program too .... omg, no he issssn't! Yes he is :p

It's very similar to 5x5 I was really surprised when I started researching it. All basic principals of progression, ect.

It's just a different rep scheme 15's, 10's, 5's (5 rep range is in the later weeks of the program). Full body 3x week training.


My knees and back better be able to squat again or I'll be mad tonight.

edit: just did a few air squats... lower back too tight, it hurts sitting in the hole :rolleyes: shit. Extreme stretching and maybe next week squatting. I need to remind myself to do the air squats more, it'll remind me to stretch if it hurts.
 
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ur doing hst ? ok in that case i can offer my services.....ive designed a shitload of hst programs and put them up on the hst boards for the big guys to dissect and while they're hated some, they've left me with plenty of "ok'd" ones :D

if u need ANY help with hst please tell me....i do know my shit when it comes to hst sir....
 
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Andalite said:
ur doing hst ? ok in that case i can offer my services.....ive designed a shitload of hst programs and put them up on the hst boards for the big guys to dissect and while they're hated some, they've left me with plenty of "ok'd" ones :D
if u need ANY help with hst please tell me....i do know my shit when it comes to hst sir....
Awesome bro!

Feel free if you have time to PM over a few of those "ok'd" program outlines :)

I'm going to be reading more about it this weekend and get a tentative outline in my head of what i'll be doing for the upcoming months.

I'm going to continue maintaning under maintenance calorie diet, but the varied rep ranges and intensity I think I'd be able to manipulate my diet a bit to add some calories here and there as I see fit.... i dunno i'm just rambling Ideas i have, lol.
 
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IIRC, Lone Trooper knows quite a bit about HST. You might try searching for posts he made about it under old usernames.
 
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Sarge_ said:
Awesome bro!

Feel free if you have time to PM over a few of those "ok'd" program outlines :)

I'm going to be reading more about it this weekend and get a tentative outline in my head of what i'll be doing for the upcoming months.

I'm going to continue maintaning under maintenance calorie diet, but the varied rep ranges and intensity I think I'd be able to manipulate my diet a bit to add some calories here and there as I see fit.... i dunno i'm just rambling Ideas i have, lol.

ull have the pms by sunday latest.

peace

Andalite

ps: why dont u read my journal anymore? :(
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Thanks CS I'll check that out. Wtf: another acroynm... IIRC?!

Andalite: Thanks man. I follow along, i just don't post all the time :)
 
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Week 14 Day 5 - deload week

stretching

Front squat: barx8,
Back squat: barx3 - left knee tight, can't get proper depth (back)
lots of stretching
Front squat: barx8 - left knee tight still

DB Lunges: BW+40x10, felt solid... I think I should push these and actually "do them" or something. lol.

GM's:
Barx10, barx8 ...
my hips/back torques to the left on the way up... somethings funky there... way out of balance.

decline crunchs: BWx15, x15

bi's tris quick .. 2x8 or something, i didn't bother writing it down.

8:10pm-8:35pm



I think monday i'll go in and find my 15 RM and continue deload basically and then hit it hard when i get back from the trip.
 
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http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=A-Z :p

Sarge_ said:
I think monday i'll go in and find my 15 RM and continue deload basically and then hit it hard when i get back from the trip.
If your knee is giving you a bit of trouble, you might exclude squats from the max test (if you weren't already planning to do so). As long as you start conservatively, you should be able to go by feel a bit to get to maxes at the end of the 15-rep phase.
 
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Cynical Simian said:
http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/?lookup=A-Z :p
If your knee is giving you a bit of trouble, you might exclude squats from the max test (if you weren't already planning to do so). As long as you start conservatively, you should be able to go by feel a bit to get to maxes at the end of the 15-rep phase.
thanks for the link :Popcorn:

IMOBIHO (lmao @ that one), I agree.

I almost hurt myself doing 3 reps with the bar on back squats... dang right i'm excluding them.

I'll see what I can do with lunges though, they are similar and at least it's something... I may load up the leg sled and suffer with the workout of loading plates on that too.. may as well, this fucking non-squatting is pissing me off it's been too long.

Are you saying I don't need to find my 15RM? Or are you saying at the end of my 15RM week (2nd week I believe) I can gauge my 10RM and 5RM from that? (which is what suppose to be done, i think...)
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Week 14 Day 6 - deload continued

5:30-5:50pm

CARDIO: HIIT Step Mill for a 15 minute shower

good amount of stretching, but I will do a ton more tonight.

Maybe roller too.
 
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Sarge_ said:
Are you saying I don't need to find my 15RM? Or are you saying at the end of my 15RM week (2nd week I believe) I can gauge my 10RM and 5RM from that? (which is what suppose to be done, i think...)
I don't know much about HST, so I'm just going by what I remember from following along with journals. It seems like people started a bit light and then just made sure that they increased the weight enough so that the last session of the 15-rep phase was near failure.

But don't go by what I'm saying, since as I mentioned I haven't done any reading on HST; head over to the HST boards or at least look at some of the journals (G5.0 and Jim Ouini are in the sticky, and I think asdfzx did an HST run based on the "big lifts", too).
 
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*Bunny* said:
IFOY lol no it's not in there :)
Sup nerd, see you next weekend :evil:
lol, and she busts out the personal acks, oh snap! IFOYDI! :evil:

Fo shizzle :qt:

Can we talk in smilies? :D ... cuz i don't know if I can't without them :p


:Popcorn: :Chef: :artist: :heart: :rainbow:
 
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Cynical Simian said:
I don't know much about HST, so I'm just going by what I remember from following along with journals. It seems like people started a bit light and then just made sure that they increased the weight enough so that the last session of the 15-rep phase was near failure.
But don't go by what I'm saying, since as I mentioned I haven't done any reading on HST; head over to the HST boards or at least look at some of the journals (G5.0 and Jim Ouini are in the sticky, and I think asdfzx did an HST run based on the "big lifts", too).
Awesome, thanks for pointing me to those threads... i've read a few pages deep in G5's so far... Tom/AI/L.T. surprized me, I guess i wasn't around then much though :) ... I hope he can pop in and help out when i start posting specifics about it.
 
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Tentative layout:

HSTLayoutVersion2007.jpg
 
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enigma4dub said:
wow, i think im in love.


i saw her first, i didn't post first cus i watched the video a couple more times....



DLine
 
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dline said:
i saw her first, i didn't post first cus i watched the video a couple more times....



DLine

id normally say we should fight it out........ but she would probably pimp slap both of us :)
 
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enigma4dub said:
id normally say we should fight it out........ but she would probably pimp slap both of us :)
I could picture a flying round house to the dome.

Chick's got a strong lower half for damn sure.
 
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great vid. Wow. I guess everyone telling me i squat like a girl might not be such a bad thing after all :)
 
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leg(2.23.07) and boob (2.20.07):

Warning: *Cracka ass cracka whitness may be blinding*

223071.jpg

thankfully they haven't shriveled up yet.

Feb202007.jpg

getting leaner.

I've been taking digi cam pics (higher quality) progress front and backs i'll post in a few more weeks probably... it's cool to see the progress side by side.

So all you're getting are those crappy camera phone pics for now.
 
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Sarge_ said:
leg(2.23.07) and boob (2.20.07):

Warning: *Cracka ass cracka whitness may be blinding*

223071.jpg

thankfully they haven't shriveled up yet.

Feb202007.jpg

getting leaner.

I've been taking digi cam pics (higher quality) progress front and backs i'll post in a few more weeks probably... it's cool to see the progress side by side.

So all you're getting are those crappy camera phone pics for now.


HOTTIE alert, hottie alert!!!
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

I could do without that "we just had a one night stand and I borrowed your baggy t-shirt and you're waking up and I'm shy now that its the morning and neither one of us is sober and you do that whole fake I can't remember what happened last night i am a good girl no really I am and now I'm shy and self conscious like a giddy japanese school girl and I hope u won't think im a slut and call me for a second date and still consider me girlfriend material but damn i have to be honest you banged me good lets go for round 3 and oh yeah whats your name again?" pose you got in the first pic...

But looking past that... great progress bro, thanks for posting up some progress pics. you're doing great and you're gonna impress those ladies this weekend keep it up man.
 
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lol, least useful progress pics ever.

I hope you (or Bunny or someone else) takes a high-quality camera to the Arnold, 'cause your camera phone is clearly inadequate.
 
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Anda: Thanks man! I'll get back to you later on it, with specific questions :)

Kab: LMAO! hey, that's a nice polo shirt... yah baggy, cuz only the XL's fit normal and don't cling to my boobs and arms like a monkey on a banana... my arms aren't that big either... i can't imagine monsters wearing polos at all. Oh and that's fresh out of the tanning booth, check out the long lights in the background.

CS: lol yeah I agree. There will be plenty of cameras there i'm sure... I will be bringing a few disposables for ease of use.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

well... let's just say I hate high reps and the workout was sheer hell and exhausting... my longest break was 8 minutes and 32 seconds :)

HST 15RM "test" workout
~5:40-7:05pm

DB Bench: 50's x15, 65's x15, 70's x14

Barbell Rows: barx8, 95x15, 115x15 (at this point i was exhausted already, lol), 135x14
*Can't call them GP because I didn't deweight them... not with 15 reps, gat damn.

Sumo Pulls: 135x15, 185x8... exhausted... went to lay down, lol. SERIOUS conditioning issues.

DB OHP - seated: 35's x 15, 40's x15, 45's x15, 55's x 13 .. these went nicely. My breaks paid off.

BTN Lat Pull Down: 100x15, 120x15, 140x15* started using straps forearms too swoled and grip blown.

I supersetted:
Decline abs: bwx15, bwx10
Dips: bwx10, bwx8

Tricep press down: 60x15, 80x15, 100x15, 110x15

wide grip EZ barbell curl: 37x15, 57x15, 60x13

DB Shrugs: 100's x 15, 105's x 15, 115's x15

holy hell about sums up that slaughter... I think I was beat red and huffing and puffing most of the time, lol

Well, the workout was great in that ... for the first time in a long time i'm starving after a workout at least. Getting some red meat down right now...
 
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Oh yeah, another thing that I remember emerging from the HST journals is that 15-rep deads are a completely miserable experience. Maybe I should've mentioned that earlier. :p

You could do something else in place of deads on the 15s and work them in on the 10s and 5s.
 
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Ha. I love this kind of stuff. Pukefest is forthcoming Sarge. That was a lot of work buddy, nice job. Head to the nearest Wendy's...lol (or at least have a PB&J for me...better yet I'll have one for you - possibly both)

I did about a month of 20's (never did squats) in Jan. SLDL's were a horrible experience. My body comp changed weekly - wife made comments about seeing new muscles, etc. I hated it, as I am a slob, but I think this wil be a sick run for you.
 
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Cynical Simian said:
Oh yeah, another thing that I remember emerging from the HST journals is that 15-rep deads are a completely miserable experience. Maybe I should've mentioned that earlier. :p
You could do something else in place of deads on the 15s and work them in on the 10s and 5s.
thanks for telling me now... ya bastardo :p

Yes, that seems like a good idea. What would be a good compound? Or maybe do DB rows? ... i think that'd be way too much back stuff.. no?

al420 said:
Ha. I love this kind of stuff. Pukefest is forthcoming Sarge. That was a lot of work buddy, nice job. Head to the nearest Wendy's...lol (or at least have a PB&J for me...better yet I'll have one for you - possibly both)

I did about a month of 20's (never did squats) in Jan. SLDL's were a horrible experience. My body comp changed weekly - wife made comments about seeing new muscles, etc. I hated it, as I am a slob, but I think this wil be a sick run for you.
dude, I puked in my mouth when i was washing my hands in the locker room about to leave.... just a little bit. Not sure if it was like reflux from not having a whole food meal in a few hours (pre workout whey and dex) or what..oh well, that's a first.

I ate some juicy homemade hamburgers :evil: ... not even a real cheat, but that's the first unclean meal i've had in 8+ days i think.

I can't imagine 20 reps... holy :cow:

... This made me feel a little better about using less weights, kinda close to my maxes.

exercise - weight - reps - 1RM - 5RM

DB Bench Bench 140 15 229 204
Row 135 15 221 196
Dead 185 8 230 204
DB Military 110 15 180 160


(from bill starr excel file)
 
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I did a cycle of the Breathing Squats workout, once, years ago. Pick the highest weight you can squat 10 good reps with, then do 20. :sick:
 
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Sarge_ said:
Yes, that seems like a good idea. What would be a good compound? Or maybe do DB rows? ... i think that'd be way too much back stuff.. no?
Yeah, I don't really see the point of DB rows since you already have the BB variety.

I'm really not the best person to ask about exercise variety/substitutions since I haven't had a need to go beyond the basic "big lifts." If your lumbars are up to it, RDLs could be worth a look. Since they're done from a hang, they might be a bit less taxing and are a hell of a lot easier to bail safely on than GMs. I'm not sure what would work well as a substitute for sumo deads, since they largely take the lower back out of the equation.
 
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Romanians are a great ideer! I can see myself collapsing after them, easily. Probably a better idea than sumos for now and a good post. chain lift that I need.
 
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Sarge_ said:
Romanians are a great ideer! I can see myself collapsing after them, easily. Probably a better idea than sumos for now and a good post. chain lift that I need.
Romanians are what I do all the time. When I say DL in my log, they're actually RDLs.
 
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what's up Sarge, hows the training going...?

i gotta get back into the swing of things here soon...
 
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HiDn: Great, thanks for the reference. You like doing the 5 reps like that? Have you tried fully deweighting them?

AL: No hyper like that. We have the little one that you do the opposite of basically... bring ur upper body way down and back up.

DZLS: Welcome back man!! It's been a loooong time :) Training isn't going right now, i'm deloading ('cept for last nights test workout to find my 15RM's)... i hit a brick wall of overtraining like a mutha. 5x5 was fun and put on some good mass since September... time to play in the high reps with HST for a bit now.
 
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Sarge......First a plea to not change programs and just make some adjustments.....maybe 1 exercise or 2 for much higher reps, maybe a few basic substitutions.....Not knocking HST because lots of guys have gotten great results with it, just that you're reaching a point where you're progressing and learning how to "train yourself" and I don't want to see you go program searching, lol

Now...I just have to bash sumo deads and then I'll offer something productive....sumo deads are for the birds, lol....pick something that's a real lift over a real range of motion, lol.

If you don't want to do conventional deads at 15 reps (which I agree may be a disaster waiting to happen) RDL's and GM's are both decent ideas. Personally, I think GM's are the superior exercise, but either one is fine. Pendlay rows probably wouldn't be the worst thing to do either.

I agree, 15 rep deads may not be pretty.....I personally never got anything out of high rep dead. I'd go with RDLs or Pendlay Rows or GMs.....you'll probably get the most functional carryover into everything else with GMs.....you'll probably get more jacked with Pendlay Rows.....and RDLs are kind of a middle ground compromise.
 
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BiggT i'm still working around some serious imbalance issues... I'd do full ROM standard lifts if I could. No GM's for me right now. My lower back is actually locked up at the momment... no pain... just tight and locked... i have lots of painful stretching to do.

I'm doing 90* Rows for the 15 rep weeks, i'll deweight them (Pendlay) in the lower rep weeks 10's and 5's... it's just to damn taxing to deweight 15 reps in a row.

RomDL and GP rows are on the docket no doubt :)

It's encouraged to changed exercise lifts from mesocycle to mesocyle but I think i'll keep the "main" lifts... but I may go back to CGBP in the lower reps to see how I do with that after some deloading.
 
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I edited a little bit too, lol.....I forgot to mention t bar corner rows...but forget about the gm's then in that case.......I try to keep this on the down low also, but there's nothing wrong with chest supported rows either
 
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and....I should have said, Sumo deads are okay if you're injured and really want to dead.....still, I think chest supported rows are a better lift than them for that matter.....I think sumo DLs should be banned as a massacre on the greatest lift of all time, but that's just me, lol
 
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Shhhh... don't tell anyone about the chest supported rows. lol.

I've pushed them when I couldn't do GP Rows recently ... but I have enough flexability again to do GP rows... so I should do them, right?

I'm not program searching at all, I want to tinker in the higher reps with a plan and HST seemed to be the route I need to take.

Keep in mind i'm still dieting/cutting/eating like a figure competitor and I think overall the past 8 weeks I put on 5lbs onto my CGBP, lol... cutting sucks.

I'm in this for aesthetics right now... i'll get back to strength in a few months/ the 5 rep cycle in HST... i may add a 3 rep cycle instead of the negative cycle after that.
 
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BiggT said:
and....I should have said, Sumo deads are okay if you're injured and really want to dead.....still, I think chest supported rows are a better lift than them for that matter.....I think sumo DLs should be banned as a massacre on the greatest lift of all time, but that's just me, lol
lol, I like them... they don't put me in traction for a week.

If I could RegDL like I used to it'd be awesome.... I want to show up my 405x2 @ 190lbs some day.... and that was untrained.
 
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BiggT said:
I think sumo DLs should be banned as a massacre on the greatest lift of all time, but that's just me, lol
It's not just you. :chomp:

Sarge, to be honest I've been thinking the same thing as BiggT since you mentioned your decision to switch to HST. It's frustrating not to be able to progress at the rate you'd like while cutting, but moving to a program where you switch rep ranges every couple weeks just seems like a way to mask that slow/lack of progress. If you want to do some higher-rep work as a break from the heavier stuff and for the metabolic benefits, you could add a day or two of 15- or 10-reppers while keeping a couple lower-rep days earlier in the week that will drive progress on the higher-rep stuff.
 
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oh jeeze... the colition is turning against me, LOL.

I'm going to ride this out, my mind is made up :evil:

My joints will appreciate the higher rep stuff too...
 
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Why do people think 'joints' like 'high reps'. That is silliness. Joints only understand 'load' IMO. So low reps, high reps, doesn't matter. Just keep them under the proper load and they will recover.

+1 for the coalition
 
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Sarge_ said:
HiDn: Great, thanks for the reference. You like doing the 5 reps like that? Have you tried fully deweighting them?

AL: No hyper like that. We have the little one that you do the opposite of basically... bring ur upper body way down and back up.

DZLS: Welcome back man!! It's been a loooong time :) Training isn't going right now, i'm deloading ('cept for last nights test workout to find my 15RM's)... i hit a brick wall of overtraining like a mutha. 5x5 was fun and put on some good mass since September... time to play in the high reps with HST for a bit now.
I have a love hate relationship with RDeads, LOL. I deweight every rep. Just started doing that about 3 months ago.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Al mentioned earlier that his body underwent some serious week to week changing doing high rep stuff, right?

So I don't think it should hurt Sarge to give HST a try... he might even experience a lot of hypertrophy which is the theoretical point of the program, no?

And at the very least, if it sucks, he'll know for the rest of his training days that that program wasn't for him.

I say go for it and take the chance bro. It might not do much good but I highly doubt it will cause any harm.

And forget substitutes, fight through those 15rm deads!
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

Thanks for the input guys.

Kab.. :) ... yes, hypertrophy is the goal here at this point in time. I've done it before on my last cutting diet. It worked VERY well for me. This time i'm using a structured routine to do it instead of lifting 5 days a week on a M & F type "set up."
 
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The "coalition" isn't opposed to higher reps. The only concern is what BiggT termed "program searching," if that means thinking that there's some magic program out there that's fundamentally different from and better than just sensibly organizing the basic lifts and getting better at them (which could mean keeping poundages the same while cutting/recomping). As long as you continue to think about what you're doing and do it for a reason, rather than looking for something where you can plug in some numbers and mindlessly go through the motions without thinking or using judgment, there's nothing wrong with changing the layout. But, to reiterate, just make sure there's a reason for what you're doing and that you're not using a switch in training style as an excuse for standing still or regressing.
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

deloading continues.

cutting diet still in effect.

HST begins 3/27/2007


If I have time tonight - Cardio or maybe a light bar complex, same goes for tomorrow night.

Feeling much better finally... over trained and underfeed did not feel pleasant.
 
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al420 said:
Glad your feeling better - deload sounds close to over...nice
Thanks it feels good to get a full nights sleep and not have to resort to any sleeping pills... that'll be another indicator of overtraining for me. lol... when i start popping them.

I'm dealing with not training pretty well this time around, it was very necessary... i'll be itching to hit the weights hard come the end of the week i'm sure. But i'll be busy :) So that'll keep me occupied.
 
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Stay away from those sleeping pills man.

And on the bright side, if this hst doesn't work out for you, we can always refer to decisions like these as "pulling a Sarge!"
 
Re: Sarge hits the 5x5 for Ginormous Soleus Muscles!! - Log

hey, it was be knocked out or be a zombie during the day... i choose "knocked the fawked out." ... only when neccesary obviously. I'm not a pill popper other than my supps... i never take stuff long term, only to get through for the time being like I did.

lol, that's funny.

I think the most important thing i'm learning here is volume and workload management for myself... before I feel like total shit, I need to recognize the signs and take a few days off ... reset weights, ect.
 
Good title change for a long-term journal.....Actually I just noticed your handle wasn't SgtSlaughter anymore, lol.....I got so used to 'sarge' for short
 
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